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October 14, 2014, 04:19:16 AM
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I'm guessing that many here would happily pay for someone with, um, persuasive skills to go in person and nicely ask for repayment.

Before you do, consider that we have nothing linking dmf to the guy in the photo other than that we have a single instagram photo of the guy with the tag "dicemasterflash" on it.

That's all.

How's this for a theory:

dmf *isn't* the guy in the photo, but he's watching this thread, sees some innocent guy in New York get incorrectly dox'ed, and thinks "if I start making some token refunds right now, all those idiots will see it as proof that that's me in the photo"...

Crazy, right?

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October 14, 2014, 04:28:45 AM
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Before you do, consider that we have nothing linking dmf to the guy in the photo other than that we have a single instagram photo of the guy with the tag "dicemasterflash" on it.

That's all.

How's this for a theory:

dmf *isn't* the guy in the photo, but he's watching this thread, sees some innocent guy in New York get incorrectly dox'ed, and thinks "if I start making some token refunds right now, all those idiots will see it as proof that that's me in the photo"...

Crazy, right?

Quoting for emphasis. This is a theory I'm inclined to believe.
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October 14, 2014, 04:36:26 AM
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my head just exploded




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October 14, 2014, 04:50:45 AM
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Before you do, consider that we have nothing linking dmf to the guy in the photo other than that we have a single instagram photo of the guy with the tag "dicemasterflash" on it.

That's all.

How's this for a theory:

dmf *isn't* the guy in the photo, but he's watching this thread, sees some innocent guy in New York get incorrectly dox'ed, and thinks "if I start making some token refunds right now, all those idiots will see it as proof that that's me in the photo"...

Crazy, right?

Quoting for emphasis. This is a theory I'm inclined to believe.

If it's not the same person there has to be some connection between those two, right? So what happens if Mr. Innocent gets inundated by phone calls or gets a police report filed against him or just googles his name one day? I'm not saying it's right or wrong to tie a person to a scam that way, just trying to follow this assumption further.
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October 14, 2014, 05:26:08 AM
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If it's not the same person there has to be some connection between those two, right? So what happens if Mr. Innocent gets inundated by phone calls or gets a police report filed against him or just googles his name one day? I'm not saying it's right or wrong to tie a person to a scam that way, just trying to follow this assumption further.

Here's the theory:

The connection is that he one time got called "dicemasterflash" in an instagram photo. Maybe he's a fan of 80's hip-hop and had been playing craps at the casino with his buddies the night before, so as an inside joke someone tagged him like that.

In that case he's not going to google his name. He'll just be surprised by an angry mob one day and have no idea why they're baying for his blood.

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October 14, 2014, 05:35:27 AM
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 Well. . Someone got to pay for this...
Im not going down without a fight.
Got to show them there is a price to pay to fck with me.
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October 14, 2014, 06:17:54 AM
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If it's not the same person there has to be some connection between those two, right? So what happens if Mr. Innocent gets inundated by phone calls or gets a police report filed against him or just googles his name one day? I'm not saying it's right or wrong to tie a person to a scam that way, just trying to follow this assumption further.

Here's the theory:

The connection is that he one time got called "dicemasterflash" in an instagram photo. Maybe he's a fan of 80's hip-hop and had been playing craps at the casino with his buddies the night before, so as an inside joke someone tagged him like that.

In that case he's not going to google his name. He'll just be surprised by an angry mob one day and have no idea why they're baying for his blood.

TBH I don't know much about how all these newfangled sites work, but I think the tag linked to an instagram page that had been deleted. Just like why a "hacker" would delete "victim's" twitter accounts etc, why would an innocent unrelated person delete their instagram account? Yes, there is a chance of that happening accidentally, like there is a chance to lose 40 straight at 49.5...
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October 14, 2014, 06:33:52 AM
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If it's not the same person there has to be some connection between those two, right? So what happens if Mr. Innocent gets inundated by phone calls or gets a police report filed against him or just googles his name one day? I'm not saying it's right or wrong to tie a person to a scam that way, just trying to follow this assumption further.

Here's the theory:

The connection is that he one time got called "dicemasterflash" in an instagram photo. Maybe he's a fan of 80's hip-hop and had been playing craps at the casino with his buddies the night before, so as an inside joke someone tagged him like that.

In that case he's not going to google his name. He'll just be surprised by an angry mob one day and have no idea why they're baying for his blood.

While there's a chance of this actually happening, circumstancial evidence points the other way.

This Jeremy clearly has the required skills (see LinkedIn-Profile) to build and run a site on the internet. Accounts linked to him suddenly are deleted. (Very few) coins get returned after his profile was linked publicly.

While it indeed would be pretty smart, I dont buy the "refund to mislead" idea.
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October 14, 2014, 07:35:28 AM
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Before you do, consider that we have nothing linking dmf to the guy in the photo other than that we have a single instagram photo of the guy with the tag "dicemasterflash" on it.

That's all.

How's this for a theory:

dmf *isn't* the guy in the photo, but he's watching this thread, sees some innocent guy in New York get incorrectly dox'ed, and thinks "if I start making some token refunds right now, all those idiots will see it as proof that that's me in the photo"...

Crazy, right?

Quoting for emphasis. This is a theory I'm inclined to believe.

Now it just seems as if you're emphasising it a tad too much. Maybe you know more than anyone here?

Dooglus: I suggest guilty until proven innocent.
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October 14, 2014, 08:20:48 AM
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I'm guessing that many here would happily pay for someone with, um, persuasive skills to go in person and nicely ask for repayment.

Before you do, consider that we have nothing linking dmf to the guy in the photo other than that we have a single instagram photo of the guy with the tag "dicemasterflash" on it.

That's all.

How's this for a theory:

dmf *isn't* the guy in the photo, but he's watching this thread, sees some innocent guy in New York get incorrectly dox'ed, and thinks "if I start making some token refunds right now, all those idiots will see it as proof that that's me in the photo"...

Crazy, right?

I agree with you 100%.  People have to be sure and should do more research and investigating first, but based on the skills and his facebook posts, I'd be fairly confident it's the same guy I have seen chat with myself and others since the beginning of the year.  His friend even posted how good at statistics he is, lol.

I would need more concrete proof before being on board with some other ideas, so if people want to play detective, go for it.  I might have time to invest in this soon, but I was hoping the people that lost a large amount would spearhead things since I don't have much time this week.
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October 14, 2014, 10:35:17 AM
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Hey, I'm on Jay str. right now near from old ferry but not so near from you. I'm angry too. So send my fucking "investment" to address from I was
deposited or emergency address 1GWQYJmociqjGkBS9PTfYP4VUJSFkphnXZ or will visit you too. User perpetuh.
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October 14, 2014, 10:39:24 AM
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I am glad I just had 0.2 BTC in the last recent days. I had over 2 BTC on the site just a week before, but cashed out. It is possible that the identity we all have might be fake, but its still best to atleast find out if it is. Its better than doing nothing. I wonder why the high rollers or people who had large balances there wouldn't do anything about it.

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October 14, 2014, 10:50:52 AM
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I love the site.. Great design.. Smiley Plinko!

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October 14, 2014, 10:52:35 AM
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I love the site.. Great design.. Smiley Plinko!

I guess u just came out from some cave ? Smiley

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October 14, 2014, 11:31:17 AM
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Hey, I'm on Jay str. right now near from old ferry but not so near from you. I'm angry too. So send my fucking "investment" to address from I was
deposited or emergency address 1GWQYJmociqjGkBS9PTfYP4VUJSFkphnXZ or will visit you too. User perpetuh.

I wouldn't make threats or do anything stupid, but definitely see about filing a police report if possible or see if you can convince an officer to investigate and bring you along.  PM me if you want to verify his address or phone number with what I have.  Don't want too many crazies showing up at his house if there are only loose ties to him at the moment.  It might take a local person to do the leg work first and file a complaint locally to get to the bottom of this.

Also, I see dice.ninja reginfo was updated on the 10th unlike the other sites.  I see what you did there...
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October 14, 2014, 12:16:46 PM
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Also, I see dice.ninja reginfo was updated on the 10th unlike the other sites.  I see what you did there...


If you are implying that he changed the email, then you are wrong. The only changes was the dns entries. Here is the diff:

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< Name Server: ns-1940.awsdns-50.co.uk
< Name Server: ns-312.awsdns-39.com
< Name Server: ns-1107.awsdns-10.org
< Name Server: ns-717.awsdns-25.net
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> Name Server: host314419.venus.orderbox-dns.com
> Name Server: host314419.mercury.orderbox-dns.com
> Name Server: host314419.earth.orderbox-dns.com
> Name Server: host314419.mars.orderbox-dns.com
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If you are implying that he changed the email, then you are wrong. The only changes was the dns entries. Here is the diff:

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< Name Server: ns-1940.awsdns-50.co.uk
< Name Server: ns-312.awsdns-39.com
< Name Server: ns-1107.awsdns-10.org
< Name Server: ns-717.awsdns-25.net
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> Name Server: host314419.venus.orderbox-dns.com
> Name Server: host314419.mercury.orderbox-dns.com
> Name Server: host314419.earth.orderbox-dns.com
> Name Server: host314419.mars.orderbox-dns.com

No, I just meant that he used fake info on that one and used variations of 1337 for the phone number.  jpcdice and darkdice were using private reg.

I think I know who T04D is too, just a hunch though.  Can't really prove anything....yet.


**BTW, DiceMasterFlash was what was used for the 3 sites and was the username they tried to scrub from the internet, but FlashMasterDice is his main username and is still widely used.  Not very creative on that one if the end goal was to scam people out of thousands of dollars.  I think the odds of a non-connected person using both names and then deleting almost all references of the matching one around the same time as the sites going down is pretty astronomical.
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October 14, 2014, 02:12:29 PM
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probably you will wait for another months or yrs for that.
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I'm guessing that many here would happily pay for someone with, um, persuasive skills to go in person and nicely ask for repayment.

Before you do, consider that we have nothing linking dmf to the guy in the photo other than that we have a single instagram photo of the guy with the tag "dicemasterflash" on it.

That's all.

How's this for a theory:

dmf *isn't* the guy in the photo, but he's watching this thread, sees some innocent guy in New York get incorrectly dox'ed, and thinks "if I start making some token refunds right now, all those idiots will see it as proof that that's me in the photo"...

Crazy, right?

At least the refunds have been quite random. As i previously said I'm missing 50+ BTC from my account Steve (2474) on DN and haven't received anything. That is still a good amount of coins. Even tough I'm not located in the US I might just hop on a plane next week and try to talk to this guy. I might also be happy to help anybody who wants to do it with his travel expenses Wink However I would like to have more confidence that the doxing is correct. The evidence is slim and I'm not sure whether I should go to NY or the other side of the US.

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October 14, 2014, 03:31:24 PM
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I'm guessing that many here would happily pay for someone with, um, persuasive skills to go in person and nicely ask for repayment.

Before you do, consider that we have nothing linking dmf to the guy in the photo other than that we have a single instagram photo of the guy with the tag "dicemasterflash" on it.

That's all.

How's this for a theory:

dmf *isn't* the guy in the photo, but he's watching this thread, sees some innocent guy in New York get incorrectly dox'ed, and thinks "if I start making some token refunds right now, all those idiots will see it as proof that that's me in the photo"...

Crazy, right?

At least the refunds have been quite random. As i previously said I'm missing 50+ BTC from my account Steve (2474) on DN and haven't received anything. That is still a good amount of coins. Even tough I'm not located in the US I might just hop on a plane next week and try to talk to this guy. I might also be happy to help anybody who wants to do it with his travel expenses Wink However I would like to have more confidence that the doxing is correct. The evidence is slim and I'm not sure whether I should go to NY or the other side of the US.

I'm ok to contribute to your travel expenses if you manage to get some of my coins back.

I'll send you some details via PM.
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