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[imp0ster]

The thing about TOR is that two people can have the same IP especially when there is network congestion. I've had times where Vidalia assigned me the same IP on two different computers. Not only that but I've also had times where I have to switch my identity 10 times just to get a new IP.

While I fully understand what you're saying it has nothing to do with this. AK claimed to have been running an exit node.

[paradoxal420]

The thing about TOR is that two people can have the same IP especially when there is network congestion. I've had times where Vidalia assigned me the same IP on two different computers. Not only that but I've also had times where I have to switch my identity 10 times just to get a new IP.

While I fully understand what you're saying it has nothing to do with this. AK claimed to have been running an exit node.

Because you can be using the same IP address as an exit node. Hence TorBlock etc..

[dooglus]

The thing about TOR is that two people can have the same IP especially when there is network congestion. I've had times where Vidalia assigned me the same IP on two different computers. Not only that but I've also had times where I have to switch my identity 10 times just to get a new IP.

While I fully understand what you're saying it has nothing to do with this. AK claimed to have been running an exit node.

Because you can be using the same IP address as an exit node. Hence TorBlock etc..

AK had the same IP address for months. He wasn't using Tor, it was his own IP address. He wasn't running a Tor exit node.

He regularly moves around hundreds if not thousands of bitcoins. To now say that his PC is probably full of malware seems weird. People with thousands of bitcoin don't knowingly use malware-infected machines. And the kinds of malware you get from installing dodgy cryptocoin clients quickly separates you from your coins.

We see on the blockchain that AK withdrew 970 BTC from dice.ninja to PrimeDice alone in nights.

AK, can we get the dice.ninja deposit addresses that put those coins into your DN accounts please?

[imp0ster]

Some extra info that might come in handy, I didn't really look into this but 18iGdLrBucZhSgcnUuWdEHnjZ315QUBSXt is an AK PRC deposit address.

[MilkyLep]

AK, can we get the dice.ninja deposit addresses that put those coins into your DN accounts please?

[paradoxal420]

The thing about TOR is that two people can have the same IP especially when there is network congestion. I've had times where Vidalia assigned me the same IP on two different computers. Not only that but I've also had times where I have to switch my identity 10 times just to get a new IP.

While I fully understand what you're saying it has nothing to do with this. AK claimed to have been running an exit node.

Because you can be using the same IP address as an exit node. Hence TorBlock etc..

AK had the same IP address for months. He wasn't using Tor, it was his own IP address. He wasn't running a Tor exit node.

He regularly moves around hundreds if not thousands of bitcoins. To now say that his PC is probably full of malware seems weird. People with thousands of bitcoin don't knowingly use malware-infected machines. And the kinds of malware you get from installing dodgy cryptocoin clients quickly separates you from your coins.

We see on the blockchain that AK withdrew 970 BTC from dice.ninja to PrimeDice alone in nights.

AK, can we get the dice.ninja deposit addresses that put those coins into your DN accounts please?

Okay I have to admit the malware thing is kind of weird. I read through his post too fast and didn't see that. Why would ANYONE remotely access their mining rigs if they think their PC is infected? He's either completely full of shit, careless, desperate to convince people, or all of the above.

[BBmmBB]

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[Seketsuna]

And all it took was some circumstantial evidence in a few chat logs, most of which is on a site that I've never even fucking played on to get you to all point your pitchforks at me?  Fuck you guys.

I don't think there are many pitchforks here, quite the contrary. Maybe it's different in the trollboxes, I'm not hanging out there much.

But you have to admit, there is some serious stuff pointing at you. You might want to sit down and go through it, maybe starting with the blockchain analysis and try to explain that to the best of your ability. If you are saying you made a lot of deposits to dice.ninja from elsewhere maybe you can show how it added up to the amounts later withdrawn to your PD address. I know it's now in the "guilty until proven innocent" territory but parting with a "fuck you" is not going to help either.

there are is an armada of pitchforks just wait for them to reply here.

[JoeMattie]

The thing about TOR is that two people can have the same IP especially when there is network congestion. I've had times where Vidalia assigned me the same IP on two different computers. Not only that but I've also had times where I have to switch my identity 10 times just to get a new IP.

While I fully understand what you're saying it has nothing to do with this. AK claimed to have been running an exit node.

Because you can be using the same IP address as an exit node. Hence TorBlock etc..

AK had the same IP address for months. He wasn't using Tor, it was his own IP address. He wasn't running a Tor exit node.

He regularly moves around hundreds if not thousands of bitcoins. To now say that his PC is probably full of malware seems weird. People with thousands of bitcoin don't knowingly use malware-infected machines. And the kinds of malware you get from installing dodgy cryptocoin clients quickly separates you from your coins.

We see on the blockchain that AK withdrew 970 BTC from dice.ninja to PrimeDice alone in nights.

AK, can we get the dice.ninja deposit addresses that put those coins into your DN accounts please?

You're putting words in my mouth.  You claim I had the same IP address for months.  I don't keep track of shit like that.  I only said that I sometimes run a tor exit node, in response to a direct question.  I don't knowingly run malware infected machines, I run mining rigs, and they accumulate a lot of clutter such as coin daemons and remote access programs.  I don't usually keep a lot of coins on them.  I've already provided you with three transactions I made to dice.ninja, from primedice, that total around 800 BTC.  I also already stated that I would usually make a new account for each transaction.

Does that answer your questions? 

[BBmmBB]

... I would usually make a new account for each transaction.
...

why would you make a new account for each transaction...just curious....:\

[paradoxal420]

... I would usually make a new account for each transaction.
...

why would you make a new account for each transaction...just curious....:\

Why are you even here?  You're just a troll that complains about everything. Did you lose 10000 satoshi?

[JoeMattie]

... I would usually make a new account for each transaction.
...

why would you make a new account for each transaction...just curious....:\

Ironically: https://bitcoin.org/en/protect-your-privacy

[dooglus]

You're putting words in my mouth.  You claim I had the same IP address for months.  I don't keep track of shit like that.  I only said that I sometimes run a tor exit node, in response to a direct question.  I don't knowingly run malware infected machines, I run mining rigs, and they accumulate a lot of clutter such as coin daemons and remote access programs.  I don't usually keep a lot of coins on them.  I've already provided you with three transactions I made to dice.ninja, from primedice, that total around 800 BTC.  I also already stated that I would usually make a new account for each transaction.

Does that answer your questions? 

I only claim that you had the same IP address for months because I saw it in the JD and DD logs. You can say I'm lying about that, but I have no reason to. I don't want to frame you, I just want to get to the bottom of this. Or not, whatever. I didn't lose any coins to dice.ninja (other than to you when you won a bunch while I was invested, and I won more than I lost by playing on the site).

I didn't see the three transactions you provided. I got a PM from you giving me your PD login and password so I could check for myself. I replied saying that I couldn't log in, and asking whether you had 2FA enabled. I didn't get a reply.

[cowbay]

Checking the logs for other accounts connecting from the exact same IP address, I see this many logins from each of these userids:

     15 1152
      5 173102
      5 211040
      1 225064
     19 252069
      5 257954
      2 259184
      7 260705

1152 is AKCoinDigger. He connected on his 1152 account using the same IP address as dmf at these times UTC:

...

Sorting AK's and dmf's connections together, we see these connection times:

2014-06-24 12:28:04 AK
2014-06-24 14:43:22 AK

2014-06-24 14:46:23 dmf
2014-06-24 15:04:07 dmf
2014-06-24 15:13:13 dmf
2014-06-24 16:01:32 dmf

2014-06-24 16:16:43 AK
2014-06-24 16:17:45 AK
2014-06-24 18:33:31 AK
2014-06-24 20:32:58 AK

They were both active on the same IP address within minutes of each other.

From the DD chat you listed 8 accounts connecting from that IP.  Either that IP was a tor exit node, or someone had 8 accounts.

Doog, could you look into those other accounts please?

[dooglus]

I didn't see the three transactions you provided.

Joe PM'ed me. The transactions he's referring to are these:

Here are a few withdrawals I made from primedice that ended up in ninja's cold wallet:

https://blockchain.info/tx/61b01e2b734d299cf44fc52e305575212d10f855298ec19d0b164062c8fab46f
https://blockchain.info/tx/5a3034fb716693ae6e846e89fb64f31ce4afc85ed70b28c365475d9c6b0fc5d4
https://blockchain.info/tx/21972d6d37426945dea783a004098dcdbd1260013731a3380a2cf26983e437ac

They look legit. 300 + 300 + 200 BTC, mostly finding their way to the ninja cold wallet.

Stunna will presumably be able to verify that they were withdrawals from AK's PD account.

[dooglus]

From the DD chat you listed 8 accounts connecting from that IP.  Either that IP was a tor exit node, or someone had 8 accounts.

Doog, could you look into those other accounts please?

Sure. Here are the stats for them:

 |  1152 -- AKCoinDigger

wagered: 2689641113.26124001
bets: 47356
balance: 0
profit: 27183755.85931645
losses: 28334
wins: 19022

  |  173102 -- Hypnocode

wagered: 0.00000000
bets: 1
balance: 0.00000000
profit: 0.00000000
losses: 0
wins: 1

  |  211040 -- longlivedoge

wagered: 2653084.68837596
bets: 278
balance: 0.00000000
profit: -648811.11127609
losses: 186
wins: 92

  |  225064 -- barbet

wagered: 5760935.50000000
bets: 69
balance: 0.00000000
profit: -1999998.00000000
losses: 45
wins: 24

  |  252069 -- fslb

wagered: 10.75315210
bets: 158
balance: 5.36315140
profit: 1.36315140
losses: 87
wins: 71

  |  257954 -- dmf

wagered: 0
bets: 0
balance: 0
profit: 0
losses: 0
wins: 0

  |  259184 -- dmf

wagered: 0
bets: 0
balance: 0
profit: 0
losses: 0
wins: 0

  |  260705 -- foxhound

wagered: 0
bets: 0
balance: 0
profit: 0
losses: 0
wins: 0

[Dotcommie]

Okay I have to admit the malware thing is kind of weird. I read through his post too fast and didn't see that. Why would ANYONE remotely access their mining rigs if they think their PC is infected? He's either completely full of shit, careless, desperate to convince people, or all of the above.

Well I know a few people who just set up their rigs with mining software, teamviewer, and remote desktop turned on and leave them for months without even restarting them. I used to be one of them but I made them more basic recently with less wide-open security and fewer ways to connect remotely, even though i'm barely paying for electricity lately and don't store coins on them.

The important part is that if there was something going on, he probably wouldn't know it.  If there was a vulnerability exploited by the person that ultimately ran off with the coins, making it obvious his computer was compromised beforehand would ruin the plan to paint him as a responsible party when all the sites shut down.

I'm not saying we shouldn't still be highly skeptical, I'm just saying I don't think it's that unusual for someone to not notice in this case...especially if he stored almost no BTC on a local wallet and stored them all on dice sites.

Also, I remember when a couple Korean hackers stole 100+million Jackpot coins after the first few jackpots, there were matching IPs for them as well and I think they were proven to be 2 different people.  The Mintpal breaches after some JPC mining site was compromised also showed matching IPs.  I think they were Tor but I can't remember the specifics since it was a long time ago.  I guess what I'm trying to say is we need healthy skepticism as well as more details from AK and anyone else that comes into the mix.

[omahapoker]

so no one could find any stuff on TO4D?


i bet he's happy. hes the slippery one

[edmundduke]

Okay, I'm going to address some of your conspiracy theories:

1) the IP addresses

I don't know why DMF appears to have posted messages to several other dice sites with the same IP address as me.  I can think of a number of ways this might have taken place, but they are all speculation on my part.  Yes I do occasionally run a TOR exit node, yes I have in the past ran other types of proxy servers off of my computers.  I've installed hundreds of coin clients and daemons, some of which may have been infected with who knows what, on my machines, as well as remote desktop software and remote access software mostly for monitoring and pool switching for my mining rigs.  I don't even know how hard it would be to spoof an IP address (if that's even possible). 

You all are demanding that I explain how and why this happened when the fact of the matter is that I didn't even know it had happened until it was brought up here.  Your guess is as good as mine.

2) Deposits and withdrawals from dice ninja

In retrospect this was probably very foolish behavior on my part, but yes I used ninja like a web wallet.  I did this because, unlike other sites, I hardly ever had to wait for a withdrawal and when I did it was only for a few minutes.  I had many accounts on ninja, the same as on other sites that I've played on.  I wouldn't be surprised if half of the coins on that site at one point or another belonged to me.

Whenever I wanted to withdraw from somewhere I had been playing, I would open a browser to ninja (which would make a new account, because I usually logged out when I was done there,) deposit some coins and then use the chat commands to send them to my main account.

3) Primedice

In total, I lost around 425 coins on primedice.  Looking at it right now, I see 5 of my accounts in the leaderboards there, the biggest being: blarghblah, DeanNolan, and AKCoinMiner.  I am 100-200 coins positive on a number of these. 

Here are a few withdrawals I made from primedice that ended up in ninja's cold wallet:

https://blockchain.info/tx/61b01e2b734d299cf44fc52e305575212d10f855298ec19d0b164062c8fab46f
https://blockchain.info/tx/5a3034fb716693ae6e846e89fb64f31ce4afc85ed70b28c365475d9c6b0fc5d4
https://blockchain.info/tx/21972d6d37426945dea783a004098dcdbd1260013731a3380a2cf26983e437ac

4) Bit-loot and huntercoin project

Yes, I studied computer science when I was younger and I know how to program.  I wrote bit-loot a few years ago in PHP and it was a complete disaster, I lost a shitload of LTC because I didn't really know what I was doing.

Yes, I worked on a huntercoin client similar to mithrilman's that I never got working 100%.

5) My dice career

I will be the first to admit that when it comes to gambling I have a problem, which waxes and wanes in severity over time.  This is something very personal to me, and something of which I am not proud.  It all started, as I'm sure it did for many of you as well, on satoshidice.

The last time I battled this demon was on doge-dice when, after winning around 80M dogecoins one day, I began a downward spiral that resulted in my losing a lot of money under other nicknames on both doge-dice and just-dice.  More recently, it was fueled by winning big on JPCDice, and got completely out of control after winning a large number of coins on first dicebitco.in and then dice.ninja.  The end result is that I gambled away all of my winnings and a lot of my own coins that I had intended for other purposes.

6) What happened at dice.ninja:

I DON'T KNOW

I gambled on that site, won in total around 120 coins, and was in their sig campaign, that's it.  I kept a reckless number of coins there over the last few weeks, most of which I withdrew to primedice (and lost) the day before the site disappeared.

I don't know what else you want me to say.  You've got the wrong guy.

I've always been nice to my fellow degens in the gambling community.  I've shared my winnings and kept my losses to myself.  I've spent hours consoling anguished players who lost big.  I've loaned coins and forgiven debts.  I've personally hunted and publicly unmasked scam site operators from my personal account, which is attached to my real name, when everyone who helped in the detective work was too afraid to do it themselves.

And all it took was some circumstantial evidence in a few chat logs, most of which is on a site that I've never even fucking played on to get you to all point your pitchforks at me?  Fuck you guys.

There seems to be a lot of speculation going on about you and your connection to the mentioned sites. All kinds of accusations and info popping up but some seem to jump to the conclusion way too fast.
From the time ive seen you around you have been a really cool guy. Providing a real show, helping others and most importantly AK has always been easy to talk to and as others have say'd "a really down to earth guy".

Innocent until proven otherwise.

[imp0ster]

... I would usually make a new account for each transaction.
...

why would you make a new account for each transaction...just curious....:\

Ironically: https://bitcoin.org/en/protect-your-privacy

Privacy in what way? You just said you combined money from accounts after deposits.