newdude (OP)
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April 05, 2012, 06:46:31 PM |
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BTC Guy = newdude
Confirmed via PMs. He is not very bright either. Be careful.
Proof of reasoning? *brings stale popcorn from 2 pages ago out again* Can I haz sum yo popcorn tu? This shit is regular comedy.
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DeathAndTaxes
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Gerald Davis
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April 05, 2012, 06:49:53 PM |
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Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that. Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag. You admit he paid you. You admit you haven't given him a code. You admit you haven't given him a refund.
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newdude (OP)
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April 05, 2012, 06:56:05 PM |
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Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that. Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag. You admit he paid you. You admit you haven't given him a code. You admit you haven't given him a refund. Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer. Remember, first he said I ran with his $1,000. Then, when I came and said I owe him $570 or whatever it is, he changed his tune. So do I owe him $1,000 or $570? Seems to be unclear on his part. Ask mr victim. The defense rests.
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rjk
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1ngldh
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April 05, 2012, 06:57:04 PM |
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Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that. Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag. You admit he paid you. You admit you haven't given him a code. You admit you haven't given him a refund. Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer. You don't wish to rectify that?
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newdude (OP)
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April 05, 2012, 06:58:34 PM |
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Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that. Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag. You admit he paid you. You admit you haven't given him a code. You admit you haven't given him a refund. Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer. You don't wish to rectify that? Remember, first he said I ran with his $1,000. Then, when I came and said I owe him $570 or whatever it is, he changed his tune. So do I owe him $1,000 or $570? Seems to be unclear on his part. Ask mr victim. The defense rests.
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jwzguy
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April 05, 2012, 07:25:20 PM |
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Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that. Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag. You admit he paid you. You admit you haven't given him a code. You admit you haven't given him a refund. Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer. You don't wish to rectify that? Remember, first he said I ran with his $1,000. Then, when I came and said I owe him $570 or whatever it is, he changed his tune. So do I owe him $1,000 or $570? Seems to be unclear on his part. Ask mr victim. The defense rests.Your defense has made a pretty shitty case if you're admitting you owe money to someone and won't pay them.
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newdude (OP)
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April 05, 2012, 07:27:12 PM |
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Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that. Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag. You admit he paid you. You admit you haven't given him a code. You admit you haven't given him a refund. Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer. You don't wish to rectify that? Remember, first he said I ran with his $1,000. Then, when I came and said I owe him $570 or whatever it is, he changed his tune. So do I owe him $1,000 or $570? Seems to be unclear on his part. Ask mr victim. The defense rests.Your defense has made a pretty shitty case if you're admitting you owe money to someone and won't pay them. Do I owe him $1,000 or $570? He says I ran with his $1,000 MoneyPak.
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haploid23
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April 05, 2012, 07:50:01 PM |
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Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that. Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag. You admit he paid you. You admit you haven't given him a code. You admit you haven't given him a refund. Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer. You don't wish to rectify that? Remember, first he said I ran with his $1,000. Then, when I came and said I owe him $570 or whatever it is, he changed his tune. So do I owe him $1,000 or $570? Seems to be unclear on his part. Ask mr victim. The defense rests.You have absolutely zero reasoning skills. Just look at how you phrase your sentences and respond to things. I never said you ran with $1000, otherwise find a quote. Just so I can be as transparent as possible so everyone else knows what's going on, you only gave me partial codes, so you still need to refund me exactly $568.25. Is that clear enough for you?? Now stop avoiding this question: Seriously man, why are you not giving me my refund or the codes you owe me? Why are you dragging this on for over a week now? Just give me the damn GC codes you owe me, or a refund. I don't want my money held up like this.
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newdude (OP)
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April 05, 2012, 07:52:20 PM |
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Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that. Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag. You admit he paid you. You admit you haven't given him a code. You admit you haven't given him a refund. Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer. You don't wish to rectify that? Remember, first he said I ran with his $1,000. Then, when I came and said I owe him $570 or whatever it is, he changed his tune. So do I owe him $1,000 or $570? Seems to be unclear on his part. Ask mr victim. The defense rests.You have absolutely zero reasoning skills. Just look at how you phrase your sentences and respond to things. I never said you ran with $1000, otherwise find a quote. Just so I can be as transparent as possible so everyone else knows what's going on, you only gave me partial codes, so you still need to refund me exactly $568.25. Is that clear enough for you?? Now stop avoiding this question: Seriously man, why are you not giving me my refund or the codes you owe me? Why are you dragging this on for over a week now? Just give me the damn GC codes you owe me, or a refund. I don't want my money held up like this. Because first of all, you need to learn respect. Secondly, you came on here and said I ran with $1,000 of YOUR money, when in fact, all I owe you is $570. NOW you come and say I owe you $570. I will pay you when I pay you. I already said that.
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rjk
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1ngldh
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April 05, 2012, 07:54:18 PM |
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Because first of all, you need to learn respect.
All I have to say to that is... holy cow. Do the same yourself.
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haploid23
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April 05, 2012, 08:07:51 PM |
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Because first of all, you need to learn respect. Secondly, you came on here and said I ran with $1,000 of YOUR money, when in fact, all I owe you is $570. NOW you come and say I owe you $570. I will pay you when I pay you. I already said that.
1) Respect.... the worst thing I said to you was "this is really like trying to argue with a rock". Now go back to our email convo, and count how many times you went on rampage swearing at me. So in your head, I'm disrespectful, and that makes it perfectly ok to not give me the GC codes I already paid for, or a refund? Wow. 2) I said quote me where I said you ran with all $1000, and that you need to pay back all $1000. That's right, you couldn't find a quote, so instead you just repeat yourself. 3) So you're going to pay me back whenever you feel like it? A week? A month? Year? It's my money, I already said I don't want it held up like that. Apparently you get thousands of dollars paid by your "other" customers, so use that money to refund me. You also went to the bank a few days ago to deposit money for the refund, where is it?
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newdude (OP)
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April 05, 2012, 10:14:45 PM |
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You should take 2 things from this thread.
1) newdude is a scammer 2) BTC Guy = newdude
1. You begging like a bitch for coins, then trying to say you bought from me. Amazon Gift Codes« Sent to: newdude on: Today at 03:04:26 PM » « You have forwarded or responded to this message. » Quote Reply Delete I am still looking to buy a $100 gift code. I will pay the $80 asking price and can pay with BTC or MtGox USD codes. I just want to make sure the code works before payment. If you are willing to send the code for verification purposes I won't actually apply it to my account until payment has been sent. Deal? You dumb ass, how the hell are you going to "Verify" the code and NOT apply it to your account? You dumb ass noob. 2. You are a noob.
3. Yeah, BTC Guy and NewDude are the same person. Righttttttttt.
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April 06, 2012, 12:29:37 AM |
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This is unreal...
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BTC guy
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April 06, 2012, 01:11:17 AM |
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I regret getting involved
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John (John K.)
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April 06, 2012, 01:35:52 AM |
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tl;dr version of my replies to each:
flip: Unless you have more proof, just shut up and gtfo as I consider you a failed scammer who's trying to make another quick buck.
newdude: Just repay him what you owe haploid. Why the waiting?
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April 06, 2012, 02:39:20 AM |
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Because first of all, you need to learn respect. Secondly, you came on here and said I ran with $1,000 of YOUR money, when in fact, all I owe you is $570. NOW you come and say I owe you $570. I will pay you when I pay you. I already said that.
Look, we've seen this before. Matthew made the same mistake that you are currently making when he made his account here. We don't care how terribly the other party is acting. He could be a serial killer for all we care. What matters is that you owe him money and you're not paying up. He will get what's coming to him next time he tries making a deal if you really do believe that he is mistreating you.
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haploid23
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April 06, 2012, 07:16:14 AM |
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Look, we've seen this before. Matthew made the same mistake that you are currently making when he made his account here. We don't care how terribly the other party is acting. He could be a serial killer for all we care. What matters is that you owe him money and you're not paying up. He will get what's coming to him next time he tries making a deal if you really do believe that he is mistreating you.
Maged, go read the actual quote of the convo I had with him HERE and you won't see one part where I was disrespectful. Worst I ever said was that I'm arguing with a rock. And now note how many times he went off to swear and curse at me, while still owing me GC codes or money. He ironically brought "respect" into this, and actually used that as an excuse to not give me what he owes. He already admit he owes me, but will not give the refund or the GC codes. This guy's level of logical reasoning skills is not something I can argue with, it's pointless. Mods, please give him an ultimatum, there is nothing else I can do.
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occulta
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April 06, 2012, 11:14:41 AM |
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This thread is still running with the proof i posted? ?? If anyone has doubts about my transcript, then contact amazon about the codes yourself. They told me the activity has been flagged and they are investigating it. .......... BTN9-CFD2LA-ZNV2 P85R-ZFEH9W-MZNH 6UE5-D2D33P-P68F they should all be purchased from the same amazon account.
Mani:Thanks. I have checked on these codes and can confirm that the fraudulent activity has been prevented and we have taken right action. I assure you that right action has been taken. However, due to account security reasons, I'm unable to provide more information.
Me:Ok, can you not tell me exactly what activity occured so i can report this to the admin of the forum ?
Mani:I'm very sorry, John. Due to account security reasons, I'm unable to provide more information about other accounts other than contacting customer's own account.
Me:Ok, no problem, what email can i use to give you the forum admins contact once he is online?Apparently nobody moderates this forum, its not giving off good impressions is it
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April 06, 2012, 02:03:45 PM |
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This thread is still running with the proof i posted?
What do you mean still running? We aren't gonna lock the thread, that would be dumb. There may be people out there with information to provide, and it leaves a channel of communication open between him and his customers, and has all the information people need to know right here. He's already said he's going to repay, and if he really does have more coming in it would be kinda dumb to lose out on all that profit for a few hundred bucks. As for him and Amazon, that's between him and Amazon. This is just a forum, we aren't the cops.
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occulta
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April 06, 2012, 05:45:47 PM |
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This thread is still running with the proof i posted?
What do you mean still running? We aren't gonna lock the thread, that would be dumb. There may be people out there with information to provide, and it leaves a channel of communication open between him and his customers, and has all the information people need to know right here. He's already said he's going to repay, and if he really does have more coming in it would be kinda dumb to lose out on all that profit for a few hundred bucks. As for him and Amazon, that's between him and Amazon. This is just a forum, we aren't the cops. Im sorry but that is just bullshit, this thread should be locked and the user banned from the forum (he shouldnt have customers to talk with). He is using other peoples amazon accounts or other peoples CCs, what is there to discuss? Nobody should be allowed to do this on a public forum and get away with it... Amazon cant do anything against him, unless he slipped up with making himself traceable, which i doubt he did. I know bitcoin is associated with crime, but i didnt think this was silk road.
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