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October 16, 2017, 04:46:37 AM
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will the site be crediting bitcoin gold or segwit2x coins to btc balances?
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Will investors get Bitcoin Gold later this month?
Personal opinion below. Do not mistake as official statement. No guarantee about accuracy of the following.

Ok, so the situation around "Bitcoin Gold" is currently rather blurry. It seems some details aren't fixed yet and might change in the upcoming days before the 25th.
There's a lot of confusion I sense in the community and a lack of necessary information/communication from the team behind the attempted fork.
What I could gather so far is very basic information and it's conflicting in several aspects. The static page with no details besides the date isn't helping to shed any light on the project either.

  Going back to the start, Bitcoin Gold was initially announced as BitcoinGPU/BTCGPU (the btcgpu.org domain indicates that). This happened as far back as July 29th[1].
The website back then was a copy of BitcoinABC's website (which was promoting Bitcoin Cash at that time).
  Back then, BTCGPU planned to fork immediately after BCC/BCH had forked, something that (as we know by now) did not happen.
Another interesting part of the website back then is the mention of plans about an ICO. The website stated that "BTCGPU will create 16000 blocks after forked from No 478558th Blcock."[2]

  In the time after this, I've lost track of the BTCGPU project (which was since rebranded to Bitcoin Gold, although domains and the git remain named BTCGPU).
This brings us to the current status of the website and the information available.
Their website (http://btcgpu.org/) is a simple static page with a logo and a date (October 25), as well as some social media links, and a link to github.

Now after having a look around their git:
  In September code got merged that would fork BTCGPU nodes (& miners) off the main bitcoin network with block #487427, which they estimated to happen on October 1st, but went down a bit sooner[3].
This code would result in a 16000 block premine at the point of release (due to minimal difficulty and other factors), and appears to currently still be a part of their master branch and available client.
If this code was executed, it also means transactions after block 487427 are void for Bitcoin Gold and website snapshots taken at the point of release are inaccurate compared to actual wallet balances.

  I'm not running a BTCGPU node, so I cannot verify this, but it seems although the code was merged, nodes did not execute it and are still on the main (bitcoin) chain as of now.
At least this is the claim of one of their core contributors. Also, he states, "that a premining is being discussed and if there is one, it will be completely transparent to everyone."[3]
How this "completely transparent" premine would look like, how many blocks, under which circumstances, all these things are unknown at this point.

  Another thing currently lacking in their code is two way replay protection,
something essential for any fork to avoid replay attacks and problems with transactions down the road (which would include distributions by CG and other sites).
The current status is, replay protection is a WIP right now, and will be done before the launch, which would be postponed if it's not ready in time[4].


  Taking all these things together, there's still a lot of if's, when's and maybe's. Some of those might change heavily and rapidly in the next days (at least this is my assessment).
I wouldn't expect an official announcement from CG before all important aspects are fully cleared.
This includes a firm forking date (block or timestamp), a binding statement about any premine, as well as working replay protection.
As long as these things aren't checked out, the decision about if and how CG proceeds regarding BTCGPU might still change.

I'd expect them to handle the fork similar to Bitcoin Cash, and proceed with distributions, as long as the circumstances allow it and a distribution seems reasonable.




[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0
[3] https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2
[4] https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18


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October 16, 2017, 06:25:30 AM
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will the site be crediting bitcoin gold or segwit2x coins to btc balances?

 Taking all these things together, there's still a lot of if's, when's and maybe's. Some of those might change heavily and rapidly in the next days (at least this is my assessment).
I wouldn't expect an official announcement from CG before all important aspects are fully cleared.
This includes a firm forking date (block or timestamp), a binding statement about any premine, as well as working replay protection.
As long as these things aren't checked out, the decision about if and how CG proceeds regarding BTCGPU might still change.

I'd expect them to handle the fork similar to Bitcoin Cash, and proceed with distributions, as long as the circumstances allow it and a distribution seems reasonable.
This.
Until there's so many if's we can't say anything for sure. Keep in mind we distributed Ethereum Classic and Bitcoin Cash to our investors in the past. If everything will be cleared, we'll do the same to following forks.


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October 16, 2017, 03:16:27 PM
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will the site be crediting bitcoin gold or segwit2x coins to btc balances?

 Taking all these things together, there's still a lot of if's, when's and maybe's. Some of those might change heavily and rapidly in the next days (at least this is my assessment).
I wouldn't expect an official announcement from CG before all important aspects are fully cleared.
This includes a firm forking date (block or timestamp), a binding statement about any premine, as well as working replay protection.
As long as these things aren't checked out, the decision about if and how CG proceeds regarding BTCGPU might still change.

I'd expect them to handle the fork similar to Bitcoin Cash, and proceed with distributions, as long as the circumstances allow it and a distribution seems reasonable.
This.
Until there's so many if's we can't say anything for sure. Keep in mind we distributed Ethereum Classic and Bitcoin Cash to our investors in the past. If everything will be cleared, we'll do the same to following forks.

Haha, good luck with that, at this rate, you'll be distributing these 'airdrops' every couple of months Tongue

Anyway, especially if you're just a player, it's always better that you just keep those coins in a wallet of which you control the private key, right before a fork I mean and just do it yourself.
It also saves CG from some work, they have to send out those coins manually, at least they did with the previous fork.

For investors, it's handy that CG provides this service for you, just so you don't have to remove your investment.


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October 16, 2017, 04:10:41 PM
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Anyway, especially if you're just a player, it's always better that you just keep those coins in a wallet of which you control the private key, right before a fork I mean and just do it yourself.
It also saves CG from some work, they have to send out those coins manually, at least they did with the previous fork.
Both 2x and Gold currently lack replay protection, which is a mess to handle for everyone, regardless if you only have to manage your own wallets, or those of 400 active users.


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October 16, 2017, 04:55:11 PM
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Anyway, especially if you're just a player, it's always better that you just keep those coins in a wallet of which you control the private key, right before a fork I mean and just do it yourself.
It also saves CG from some work, they have to send out those coins manually, at least they did with the previous fork.
Both 2x and Gold currently lack replay protection, which is a mess to handle for everyone, regardless if you only have to manage your own wallets, or those of 400 active users.
Oh yeah, I did read your previous posts Wink
I meant that if replay protection was in place, it's generally better/safer to rely on yourself to handle the fork.

CG doesn't have to give you those forked coins, if they decide it's not worth all the trouble, they're entitled to keep them.
I'm pretty sure there have been a few exchanges and online wallets that have just kept the latest forked coins (BCH)


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October 17, 2017, 03:45:24 AM
Last edit: October 17, 2017, 03:59:26 AM by ralle14
 #3027

For a moment I thought I had a bad connection because while I was playing it says failed to place a bet but it seems the site is down at the moment. Is there an unscheduled maintenance going on right now ?

Edit : Nevermind, disregard what i've said earlier it's already back up. Just a small interruption. I hope it doesn't happen again.



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October 17, 2017, 09:57:50 PM
 #3028

Tuesday's Litecoin lottery round 15 draw results:

Place   Nickname       Owned Tickets   Winning Ticket   Chance of winning   Reward in Litecoin
1Guyon760816456.250%1.152 LTC
2Guyon760819056.250%0.216 LTC
3Guyon7608110356.250%0.086 LTC



Bitcoin Lotto round #207 will close in approx 8 hours!

Current prizes:
1st place:  0.02664 BTC
2nd place: 0.00500 BTC
3rd place: 0.00200 BTC

Total tickets bought so far: 333
Price per ticket: 0.00010 BTC

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October 18, 2017, 08:58:04 PM
 #3029

Today's Bitcoin lottery (round 207) draw results:

Place   Nickname       Owned Tickets   Winning Ticket   Chance of winning   Reward in Bitcoin
1Guyon7607025718.919%0.02960 BTC
2Guyon7607024118.919%0.00555 BTC
3NakedHiker9017824.324%0.00222 BTC


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2nd place: 0.0064 ETH
3rd place: 0.0026 ETH

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October 19, 2017, 04:17:47 PM
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Read about our "Bitcoin Gold" (BTG) contingency plan on blog.


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October 19, 2017, 05:30:35 PM
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Read about our "Bitcoin Gold" (BTG) contingency plan on blog.
Great stuff, very informative read!

So it's basically the same as with the previous fork, except that deposits might not be down as long as with the previous one. (Could be mistaken here though).

I just hope we can withdraw to an exchange that offers BTG trading after the split Smiley Three weeks seems like it would be enough time though.


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October 19, 2017, 10:12:02 PM
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*Thursday's Ethereum lottery (Round 73) draw results:

Place   Nickname       Owned Tickets   Winning Ticket   Chance of winning   Reward in Ethereum
1Wifa360154.000%0.0500 ETH
2giveupnot1254.000%0.0094 ETH
3Zeke368174.000%0.0037 ETH


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Crypto-Games Challenge still on! 104 mBTC left in pot and 11 rewards left! 5 days to go! Good luck! All info can be found in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2273144.0






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Bitcoin Lotto round #208 will close in approx 9 hours!

Current prizes:
1st place:  0.02856 BTC
2nd place: 0.00536 BTC
3rd place: 0.00214 BTC

Total tickets bought so far: 357
Price per ticket: 0.00010 BTC

* No house edge on lotto, 1% is added to total prize pool


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Hi Crypto-games owners.
Can you please clarify if you take any any profits from the transaction fees when withdrawing coins?
When I try to withdraw BTC the recommended transaction fee is 0.00102 (approx $6.16 USD).
I can select less than this fee but it warns me that the transaction could then take days.
I would like to know, is the fee you select ALL go towards the transaction fee, or does the owner take a cut? It's not really transparent. On http://bitcoinfees.21.co/ I can see that currently with a fee of 150 sat a byte (33,900 Sats), or  0.000339 ($2.04) this will confirm within 10 mins, so therefore I really think I should set transaction fee to the lowest it allows but i DONT know if owner is gonna take a cut. Kindly clarify, thanks.
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October 21, 2017, 07:43:57 PM
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Can you please clarify if you take any any profits from the transaction fees when withdrawing coins?
No, why should they?

When I try to withdraw BTC the recommended transaction fee is 0.00102.
The fee you pay is per kB, 0.00102 BTC/kB or 102 sat/byte.

I can select less than this fee but it warns me that the transaction could then take days.
A generic warning added for new users, which can be ignored by those that understand bitcoin transactions better and know what they're doing.

I would like to know, is the fee you select ALL go towards the transaction fee, or does the owner take a cut? It's not really transparent.
"The fee you pay is per kB" ~ Fully transparent.

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I paid 0.0005 BTC for withdrawal fees, but blockchain.info shows it was paid less, why?
We pay 0.0005 BTC fees per kB. It is not possible for us to give good estimates, or any estimate at all, of how large your transaction will be. When a transactions size is less than a kB, the actual transaction fee is lower than 0.0005 BTC accordingly.
(Numbers are outdated, but the system still works the same.)

On http://bitcoinfees.21.co/ I can see that currently with a fee of 150 sat a byte (33,900 Sats), or  0.000339 ($2.04) this will confirm within 10 mins is estimated to confirm in the next block
21.co estimates fees for one input, two output transactions.
While that fits most transactions for regular "one user" wallets, enterprise sized wallets have other standards to work with.
Almost all transactions made by CG are bigger than those 226 bytes.


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Place   Nickname       Owned Tickets   Winning Ticket   Chance of winning   Reward in Bitcoin
1Guyon7609921725.849%0.03064 BTC
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October 21, 2017, 09:26:47 PM
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Can you please clarify if you take any any profits from the transaction fees when withdrawing coins?
No, why should they?

When I try to withdraw BTC the recommended transaction fee is 0.00102.
The fee you pay is per kB, 0.00102 BTC/kB or 102 sat/byte.

I can select less than this fee but it warns me that the transaction could then take days.
A generic warning added for new users, which can be ignored by those that understand bitcoin transactions better and know what they're doing.

I would like to know, is the fee you select ALL go towards the transaction fee, or does the owner take a cut? It's not really transparent.
"The fee you pay is per kB" ~ Fully transparent.

Taken from the blog:

Quote
I paid 0.0005 BTC for withdrawal fees, but blockchain.info shows it was paid less, why?
We pay 0.0005 BTC fees per kB. It is not possible for us to give good estimates, or any estimate at all, of how large your transaction will be. When a transactions size is less than a kB, the actual transaction fee is lower than 0.0005 BTC accordingly.
(Numbers are outdated, but the system still works the same.)

On http://bitcoinfees.21.co/ I can see that currently with a fee of 150 sat a byte (33,900 Sats), or  0.000339 ($2.04) this will confirm within 10 mins is estimated to confirm in the next block
21.co estimates fees for one input, two output transactions.
While that fits most transactions for regular "one user" wallets, enterprise sized wallets have other standards to work with.
Almost all transactions made by CG are bigger than those 226 bytes.

Thank you for the clarification that it's per Kb. Unless I'm blind, I don't see that specifically made clear on the withdrawal page. Would be worth making it clearer, and if at all possible, give an 'estimate' of that actual fee paid (with a disclaimer of what are the boundaries of the estimate) for newbies to get an idea of the fee. Thanks though again Smiley
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October 21, 2017, 10:07:23 PM
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Thank you for the clarification that it's per Kb. Unless I'm blind, I don't see that specifically made clear on the withdrawal page.
It's mentioned in the FAQ/on the blog.

Would be worth making it clearer
Probably left out there for the ease of it (not to overload the window), but could be a good addition.

and if at all possible, give an 'estimate' of that actual fee paid
As said, an estimate of transaction sizes is hard to make, due to the nature of the system.
The important variable for transaction speed is not the total fee paid, it's the fee per size ratio, so what you need to know for estimating your transaction speed is your per kB fee, not your total fee.
I don't think estimating the size and total fee would provide any additional value to the user (it doesn't change the amount you'll have to pay or the speed of your transaction).



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