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July 02, 2018, 08:32:24 AM
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Confiscating my coins because I was unaware of your rule, which is an unjust one about having two accounts is not a decent business practice.

Please explain what the harm is to players that like to play different betting styles to have two accounts?

I like one account on autoplay for fun and the other to gamble as desired.

How is it not theft taking my coins?



As Luptin explained before, you agreed to their rules that they can refuse any withdrawals, and that funds of blocked accounts cannot be withdrawn.


I personally don't agree with the rule either, and I think that it should be made clear what would happen to the funds of a blocked account, but that's another story.


I think it was made pretty clear what happens to funds from a blocked account.

From the FAQ: " Can I have multiple accounts?
No, only one account per person is allowed. Players with multiple accounts will be blocked and all funds, including investments, will be confiscated."

From the ToS: "4.3. Each player is authorized only one account. Users with more accounts, or players who use outside scripts to interfere with our bidding system, including but not limited to VPN services, will be automatically blocked. Blocked players cannot play or withdraw funds. "

How could they have been any more clear?

Browsewrap agreements generally dont do well in court.
I dont think there is a clickwrap on registration, right? You should consider this just in case.


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July 02, 2018, 08:37:24 AM
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As Luptin explained before, you agreed to their rules that they can refuse any withdrawals, and that funds of blocked accounts cannot be withdrawn.


I personally don't agree with the rule either, and I think that it should be made clear what would happen to the funds of a blocked account, but that's another story.



I think it was made pretty clear what happens to funds from a blocked account.

From the FAQ: " Can I have multiple accounts?
No, only one account per person is allowed. Players with multiple accounts will be blocked and all funds, including investments, will be confiscated."

From the ToS: "4.3. Each player is authorized only one account. Users with more accounts, or players who use outside scripts to interfere with our bidding system, including but not limited to VPN services, will be automatically blocked. Blocked players cannot play or withdraw funds. "

How could they have been any more clear?

Well, they tell me that 'the funds  are confescated'. What happens to it. Does it go to the bankroll? Does it go to the site creators? Does it go to the mods? Is it waiting for nothing in eternity?

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July 02, 2018, 08:38:47 AM
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Confiscating my coins because I was unaware of your rule, which is an unjust one about having two accounts is not a decent business practice.

Please explain what the harm is to players that like to play different betting styles to have two accounts?

I like one account on autoplay for fun and the other to gamble as desired.

How is it not theft taking my coins?



As Luptin explained before, you agreed to their rules that they can refuse any withdrawals, and that funds of blocked accounts cannot be withdrawn.


I personally don't agree with the rule either, and I think that it should be made clear what would happen to the funds of a blocked account, but that's another story.


I think it was made pretty clear what happens to funds from a blocked account.

From the FAQ: " Can I have multiple accounts?
No, only one account per person is allowed. Players with multiple accounts will be blocked and all funds, including investments, will be confiscated."

From the ToS: "4.3. Each player is authorized only one account. Users with more accounts, or players who use outside scripts to interfere with our bidding system, including but not limited to VPN services, will be automatically blocked. Blocked players cannot play or withdraw funds. "

How could they have been any more clear?

Browsewrap agreements generally dont do well in court.
I dont think there is a clickwrap on registration, right? You should consider this just in case.

There is:


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July 02, 2018, 09:14:34 AM
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As Lutpin explained before, you agreed to their rules that they can refuse any withdrawals, and that funds of blocked accounts cannot be withdrawn.
I personally don't agree with the rule either, and I think that it should be made clear what would happen to the funds of a blocked account, but that's another story.
I think it was made pretty clear what happens to funds from a blocked account.

From the FAQ: " Can I have multiple accounts?
No, only one account per person is allowed. Players with multiple accounts will be blocked and all funds, including investments, will be confiscated."

From the ToS: "4.3. Each player is authorized only one account. Users with more accounts, or players who use outside scripts to interfere with our bidding system, including but not limited to VPN services, will be automatically blocked. Blocked players cannot play or withdraw funds. "
Browsewrap agreements generally dont do well in court.
I dont think there is a clickwrap on registration, right? You should consider this just in case.
There is.
On top of that, if you attempt to access any deposit address on a freshly made account, you will see this screen:



So any user that either registered their account by attaching an email/password to it (opposed to the longid) or that made a deposit to their account has to accept the ToS by clickwrapping.
Users that did both have confirmed their agreement to the ToS twice, like the user in question did.


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July 02, 2018, 08:17:47 PM
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July 03, 2018, 05:33:27 AM
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Everyone has to explicitely agree with "This is my only account" prior registration. I don't think it can be more clear than that

https://i.imgur.com/RV1BSbJ.png

How many things in life to we agree to and dont read? Do you have a cell phone? Have you read the 80 page disclosures?

Accepting terms is known as a way companies use to protect themselves against a lawsuit, not to give the company permission to steal money from them.

Would you think it is acceptable for your cell phone company to go into your bank account and take your money? What if they said it was in their 80 page disclosures that you agreed to?

It is no different here.
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July 03, 2018, 05:40:50 AM
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Crypto Games and its owners are thieves

Release my coins
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July 03, 2018, 06:04:38 AM
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Everyone has to explicitely agree with "This is my only account" prior registration. I don't think it can be more clear than that

https://i.imgur.com/RV1BSbJ.png

How many things in life to we agree to and dont read? Do you have a cell phone? Have you read the 80 page disclosures?

Accepting terms is known as a way companies use to protect themselves against a lawsuit, not to give the company permission to steal money from them.

Would you think it is acceptable for your cell phone company to go into your bank account and take your money? What if they said it was in their 80 page disclosures that you agreed to?

It is no different here.

I read all ToS and Privacy Statements of anything before I sign them, even if it takes days to read. That's on you
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July 03, 2018, 07:59:19 AM
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Everyone has to explicitely agree with "This is my only account" prior registration. I don't think it can be more clear than that

~snip~

How many things in life to we agree to and dont read? Do you have a cell phone? Have you read the 80 page disclosures?

Accepting terms is known as a way companies use to protect themselves against a lawsuit, not to give the company permission to steal money from them.

Would you think it is acceptable for your cell phone company to go into your bank account and take your money? What if they said it was in their 80 page disclosures that you agreed to?

It is no different here.

The reason we have these rules is to prevent abuse: to prevent people stealing our investors funds by cheating. And we're not talking about a "80 page disclosures" here, but about a simple line.






And maybe you should start questioning yourself whose fault this is instead of calling a fair casino thieves. The only party that can be qualified as "thief" is you, who tried to cheat the casino and its investors.


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8.2. If you are found to be cheating, using multiple accounts, or abusing free withdrawals, then your account(s) will be closed and your funds confiscated including any investments.

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July 03, 2018, 08:56:11 AM
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Everyone has to explicitely agree with "This is my only account" prior registration. I don't think it can be more clear than that



How many things in life to we agree to and dont read? Do you have a cell phone? Have you read the 80 page disclosures?

Accepting terms is known as a way companies use to protect themselves against a lawsuit, not to give the company permission to steal money from them.

Would you think it is acceptable for your cell phone company to go into your bank account and take your money? What if they said it was in their 80 page disclosures that you agreed to?

It is no different here.
You just have to read two lines. TWO. First is "This is my only account on CryptoGames and I agree to the Terms of service", the second is "I agree to the Privacy policy"



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July 03, 2018, 09:13:36 PM
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Tuesday's Litecoin lottery round 52 draw results:

Place   Username       Tickets   Winning ID   Win Chance   Reward in Litecoin
1
zavodnik1994
200
23.866%
3.352 LTC
2
DemiGod
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4.535%
0.628 LTC
3
zavodnik1994
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23.866%
0.209 LTC

Congrats!


Bitcoin Lotto round #281 will close in approx 10 hours!

Current prizes:
1st place:  0.077280 BTC
2nd place: 0.014490 BTC
3rd place: 0.004830 BTC

Total tickets bought so far: 966
Price per ticket: 0.00010 BTC

Wagering contest ongoing, this month's total rewards are up to 3.26 BTC, 13.30 ETH, 37.50 LTC, 765,000 DOGE, 13.50 BCH and 17.90 XMR!
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July 04, 2018, 06:20:21 PM
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Hello

I am interested about investments. When will bitcoin and ethereum investments to the bankroll be open?
Thanks

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July 04, 2018, 06:59:07 PM
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I am interested about investments. When will bitcoin and ethereum investments to the bankroll be open?
Thanks
Once there is the need to increase the bankroll, ie after a lot of the current investors cancel their investments.
As it stands right now, those two bankrolls are sufficient and there is no need for additional investments.
But the other coins that have open investments are great too, so I'd encourage you to take a look at them.


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Good day for players so far with almost 3 BTC profit overall in last 24 hours.





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@Crypto_Games Release my 470,000 Doge coins. Blocking my account for having two accounts and stealing my money is wrong.

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@Crypto_Games I'm sorry I've violated the ToS. Creating a second account and cheating the site was wrong.
FTFY


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July 06, 2018, 02:12:44 PM
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@Crypto_Games I'm sorry I've violated the ToS. Creating a second account and cheating the site was wrong.
FTFY

Yeah that's how he should be acting, I've not seen him admit he was wrong once.

I can't speak for Crypto-Games of course, but I've known them for being very reasonable as long as you don't act like an ass (excuse my language).
Perhaps start by admitting you're wrong, saying you'll never do it again and kindly ask if they would be willing to give back your funds, even though they have no obligation to do so.

Handle it like that and you might have a tiny tiny chance that they'll send you your funds back. (no guarantees)

It would have been better if you had done so from the start.

If they send you your funds back now, what kind of message would that send? That you can cheat them, be rude and that they'll just roll over and reward you for that...

Honestly, it's probably too late for you, but this might work for people who've made an honest mistake. (forgotten that they had created an account for example and never abused anything). Bigger chance of success than acting entitled and rude anyway.

Sorry if I'm out of line here, this is just my personal opinion and isn't based on any facts.


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July 06, 2018, 02:27:43 PM
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Sorry if I'm out of line here, this is just my personal opinion and isn't based on any facts.
No, that's exactly my personal opinion as well and how I would handle a situation like that, or like to see it being handled.
I cannot speak on behalf of CG in this case either, as I do not make that decision,
but I think admitting being wrong, apologizing, and eg asking for one account being unblocked so they can continue to use the site
(while promising to follow the rules this time, or to accept the consequences if they don't) would go a long way.


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Sorry if I'm out of line here, this is just my personal opinion and isn't based on any facts.
No, that's exactly my personal opinion as well and how I would handle a situation like that, or like to see it being handled.
I cannot speak on behalf of CG in this case either, as I do not make that decision,
but I think admitting being wrong, apologizing, and eg asking for one account being unblocked so they can continue to use the site
(while promising to follow the rules this time, or to accept the consequences if they don't) would go a long way.

Everybody knows that you'll eventually get your way with blackmail  Roll Eyes

Alert Alert Alert

My account from this site has just been blocked for having a second account. Most people know me from multiple betting sites.

Tonight this site has blocked my account and is holding hostage Your balance is: 452508.00605947 DogeCoin Plus 20,000 on my 2nd account.

If this is not resolved and my funds returned to me, I shall continue to alert forever anyone who plays online about this site.

release my funds:

You catch more bees with honey than with vinegar


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July 06, 2018, 08:06:13 PM
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Bitcoin Lotto round #282 will close in approx 11 hours!

Current prizes:
1st place: 0.008560 BTC
2nd place: 0.001605 BTC
3rd place: 0.000535 BTC

Total tickets bought so far: 107
Price per ticket: 0.00010 BTC


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