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[Rajahdat]

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[iluvbitcoins]

You guys should really decrease your divest fee
It's 0.002BTC + count in the transaction fee and that's a good negative balance :/

[Lutpin]

You guys should really decrease your divest fee It's 0.002BTC

The divest fee is based on your investment size, not fixed (0.002BTC would equal the fees for an investment of ~1BTC).
On top of that, it decreases over time, and there's no fee for investments older than 21 day.

count in the transaction fee and that's a good negative balance

Transaction fees aren't charged by the site directly, they are network fees.

[iluvbitcoins]

You guys should really decrease your divest fee It's 0.002BTC

The divest fee is based on your investment size, not fixed (0.002BTC would equal the fees for an investment of ~1BTC).
On top of that, it decreases over time, and there's no fee for investments older than 21 day.

count in the transaction fee and that's a good negative balance

Transaction fees aren't charged by the site directly, they are network fees.

The second comment seems like you think I'm retarded.
Ofcourse they're network fees, but it needs to be mentionted on top of transaction fees there's no reason for a 0.2% divest fee.
But thanks for the info..

[Lutpin]

Ofcourse they're network fees, but it needs to be mentionted on top of transaction fees there's no reason for a 0.2% divest fee.

Yes there is, the divest fee encourages investors to stay in the bankroll for a longer time and rewards loyal bankroll investors.
It reduces short term bankroll speculation and the swings the bankroll would experience due to them,
allowing the site to offer more stable max bet and profit limits.
You're also ignoring that after 21 days, the fee vanishes and you can divest without being charged any fees for it.

Another possible way to ensure this would be increasing the minimum investment time from 24 hours to a longer timeframe.
Would you rather have the minium time being 21 days, and not being allowed to divest earlier, no matter what?
In that case, the fee wouldn't be needed anymore.

that's a good negative balance

Your initial post makes it sound like between divest fees and transaction fees, all your bitcoin are taken in fees,
while in reality, the divest fees are just 0.3/0.2/0.1%,
meaning you'd get back 0.997BTC out of a 1BTC investment, should you decide to divest it early (ignoring the profit you might have made in your time being invested).

[iluvbitcoins]

Ofcourse they're network fees, but it needs to be mentionted on top of transaction fees there's no reason for a 0.2% divest fee.

Yes there is, the divest fee encourages investors to stay in the bankroll for a longer time and rewards loyal bankroll investors.
It reduces short term bankroll speculation and the swings the bankroll would experience due to them,
allowing the site to offer more stable max bet and profit limits.
You're also ignoring that after 21 days, the fee vanishes and you can divest without being charged any fees for it.

Another possible way to ensure this would be increasing the minimum investment time from 24 hours to a longer timeframe.
Would you rather have the minium time being 21 days, and not being allowed to divest earlier, no matter what?
In that case, the fee wouldn't be needed anymore.

that's a good negative balance

Your initial post makes it sound like between divest fees and transaction fees, all your bitcoin are taken in fees,
while in reality, the divest fees are just 0.3/0.2/0.1%,
meaning you'd get back 0.997BTC out of a 1BTC investment, should you decide to divest it early (ignoring the profit you might have made in your time being invested).

You seem to be acting like I'm attacking Crypto-Games, I'm nearly making a comment.
No, you wouldn't get 0.997BTC back.
You need to pay 1mbtc to deposit the funds, and also some to withdraw.
So there's a 40+$ loss right there.

I'm not talking about Crypto-Games taking the transaction fee, what the hell
I'm talking about the bankroll investment profitability.
I mean, I have 1BTC deposited, and a 0.002BTC loss just to divest my funds isn't okay for me.
I didn't know about the 21 day rule, thanks for that info
That does make it different, still don't understand your defensive attitude.

[Lutpin]

That does make it different, still don't understand your defensive attitude.

I'm explaining a situation to you, which you dont seem to be fully aware of.
Not sure why listing facts and explanations is considered "defensive",
but you made a comment about the fees and I explained why they are in place.

You need to pay 1mbtc to deposit the funds, and also some to withdraw. So there's a 40+$ loss right there.

Fees for transactions arent a loss, you pay for moving your BTC (you're paying for a service offered by the bitcoin network).
Arguably, that has gotten a lot more expensive with bitcoin shooting up by over 700% this year alone in fiat value.
In total, that should still only amount for 0.002 or 0.003BTC, which are $25 combined right now, not $40 or more.

I didn't know about the 21 day rule, thanks for that info

You should read the FAQ regarding bankroll investments before placing one.
The terms are outlined clearly there.

I mean, I have 1BTC deposited, and a 0.002BTC loss just to divest my funds isn't okay for me.

Meaning you invested into the bankroll without informing yourself about the rules and conditions of your investment?

We charge additional divest fee for short-term investments. This is to prevent abuse. The fees are as shown below:
For investments younger than 7 days, there is a 0.3% divestment fee
For investments younger than 14 days, there is a 0.2% divestment fee
For investments younger than 21 days, there is a 0.1% divestment fee
For investments older than 21 days, there is no divestment fee
Divestment fee is calculated based on the total investment value, not on the profit/losses.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

You guys should really decrease your divest fee
It's 0.002BTC + count in the transaction fee and that's a good negative balance :/

I don’t think they should.

Actually, I don’t know why they use the word “investment” to refer to someone putting their money into their bankroll for 21 days or less. That’s speculation, or gambling, but not investing, as the difference between speculation and investing is time frame and the amount of risk.

[Red Golpe]

You guys should really decrease your divest fee

Done. It will be zero in 21 days, time needed to upgrade the software.

[Rajahdat]

Need to put in a different slot game 👍

[iluvbitcoins]

Fees for transactions arent a loss, you pay for moving your BTC (you're paying for a service offered by the bitcoin network).
Arguably, that has gotten a lot more expensive with bitcoin shooting up by over 700% this year alone in fiat value.
In total, that should still only amount for 0.002 or 0.003BTC, which are $25 combined right now, not $40 or more.

You deposit 0.01BTC you withdraw 0.009BTC, do you not have a 10% loss?

Meaning you invested into the bankroll without informing yourself about the rules and conditions of your investment?

Yes, I did and I invested previously too.
I'm just saying that's a bit high.

And yes, you do seem defensive, because for example, you're saying I should've read the FAQ as if that has anything to do with anything
I never said I got the fee unexpected, I said it's high.
And you negate the loss of a transaction fee, you assume I'm running a 100 million$ mining farm so I earn my fee back?
A loss is a loss.
Defensive af

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[Crypto-Games.net]

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[eternalgloom]

You deposit 0.01BTC you withdraw 0.009BTC, do you not have a 10% loss?

But that's usually only when you just leave the fee slider at its default location.
I usually slide it pretty much all the way to the left and pay the lowest possible fee, even then it usually doesn't take too long if there aren't too many unconfirmed transactions on the network.

Yes, I did and I invested previously too.
I'm just saying that's a bit high.

And yes, you do seem defensive, because for example, you're saying I should've read the FAQ as if that has anything to do with anything
I never said I got the fee unexpected, I said it's high.
And you negate the loss of a transaction fee, you assume I'm running a 100 million$ mining farm so I earn my fee back?
A loss is a loss.
Defensive af

Why does the divest fee matter that much? I mean you're not going to make any significant kind of profit anyway in under 21 days anyway.
Investing for less than a month seems pointless anyway.

[Red Golpe]

The highest disinvestment fee is 0.3% which is much less than any daily bitcoin price fluctuation I can remember.

[DogecoinMachine]

Two weeks of BTG distribution is behind us, only one week left to claim BTG. Majority of players/investors already entered their addresses (and received their coins), don't miss the deadline to get your BTG.  

More info on our blog: http://blog.crypto-games.net/2017/11/update-btg-network-launched.html

Meanwhile our bankroll raised to 3,314.72 BTC (31,657,929.45 USD!)  

[Red Golpe]

Just for anyone's info, today I sold the BTCG I had in the various addresses and they're worth around 300 USD each, so I suggest you don't miss the opportunity.

[jpcfan]

Two weeks of BTG distribution is behind us, only one week left to claim BTG. Majority of players/investors already entered their addresses (and received their coins), don't miss the deadline to get your BTG.  

More info on our blog: http://blog.crypto-games.net/2017/11/update-btg-network-launched.html

Meanwhile our bankroll raised to 3,314.72 BTC (31,657,929.45 USD!)  

hello. long time no talk. i saw that was a a link on front page that went to a malicious site


it's the dash link on front page showing the bankroll.




now i would have gone to chat to tell you but your excellent mod lutpin has banned me from chat forever. for no reason.


only reason i came to the thread to mention is because of you DogecoinMachine. i respect you a lot and remember the good old day when you started out with your doge site.

hope all is well for you. and i have to say i'm a mod at just-dice.com bit-exo.com about to be mod at the biggest site out there. and Lutpin is by far the worst mod i've seen at any site

[minifrij]

hello. long time no talk. i saw that was a a link on front page that went to a malicious site
it's the dash link on front page showing the bankroll.

It's not malicious, the SSL certificate just expired on the domain. However, it redirects to dash.org anyway so that may as well replace it.