jadefalke
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January 16, 2016, 08:15:12 AM |
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Now I know the reason why the financial service took attention at us.
Our main profit is from a Bitcoin trading, not from a mining, I told it before.
Our bots are trading on 4 markets. One of the market is cryptsy.com
After cryptsy.com became a scam, the financial service analyzed a trading volumes and maybe decided that we are connected/owners of cryptsy.com (because our deposits and withdrawals from cryptsy were huge).
Then they arrested our servers.
We have two copies of a full backup of a database and a wallet, and these backup are placed on servers from two different Ukrainian companies. But servers from both companies are currently arrested.
Firstly we decided not to place servers in USA or in EU, because servers in these places can be easily closed by any government service. As I already know, in Ukraine servers can be closed too.
Well, it's not good.
Our lawyers will finish their job soon. Their conclusion is that we did not break a law and we should win. But I also have been noticed than in some cases there are no any laws for government services. Any funds or companies can be arrested, any person can be arrested or even killed and nobody will look at the law. I did not say any word about a country which is doing that, but I guess all of you know which country I am talking about.
Some bad news: In case when we will take a control of our servers again, we will need to close some mines or to reduce all the production of users. Or I will set all bonuses fields as empty. We have some losses of our funds (about 22.6%). It was a trading volume on cryptsy.com. Now I really think that they will not allow us to receive this money back.
you say you can pay the 328 BTC for new Year Mine, and on the other hand you say you have to cut the output of regular mines and drop bonus? That does not add up, again. |
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Steve_Tou
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January 16, 2016, 08:32:29 AM |
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Now I know the reason why the financial service took attention at us.
Our main profit is from a Bitcoin trading, not from a mining, I told it before.
Our bots are trading on 4 markets. One of the market is cryptsy.com
After cryptsy.com became a scam, the financial service analyzed a trading volumes and maybe decided that we are connected/owners of cryptsy.com (because our deposits and withdrawals from cryptsy were huge).
Then they arrested our servers.
We have two copies of a full backup of a database and a wallet, and these backup are placed on servers from two different Ukrainian companies. But servers from both companies are currently arrested.
Firstly we decided not to place servers in USA or in EU, because servers in these places can be easily closed by any government service. As I already know, in Ukraine servers can be closed too.
Well, it's not good.
Our lawyers will finish their job soon. Their conclusion is that we did not break a law and we should win. But I also have been noticed than in some cases there are no any laws for government services. Any funds or companies can be arrested, any person can be arrested or even killed and nobody will look at the law. I did not say any word about a country which is doing that, but I guess all of you know which country I am talking about.
Some bad news: In case when we will take a control of our servers again, we will need to close some mines or to reduce all the production of users. Or I will set all bonuses fields as empty. We have some losses of our funds (about 22.6%). It was a trading volume on cryptsy.com. Now I really think that they will not allow us to receive this money back.
you say you can pay the 328 BTC for new Year Mine, and on the other hand you say you have to cut the output of regular mines and drop bonus? That does not add up, again. Kinda respect those who cannot think straight and believe what Sector is shtting.. maybe they invested a lot and no choice to take his sht.. |
A scam will be a scam.
It won't sustain in long run, cause they can't make $ for you at all, they don't have any business model or investment plans to make money grows.
All they did is use other people's $ to pay other users, so those who earned $ is just from other victims... in short a vicious cycle.
People KNEW, but they just dump their $ in hoping for a miracle.
Maybe I have to give another example for people who can't understand.
It's like- Going down to dirty sewers looking for fresh air.
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antiuser1
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January 16, 2016, 08:45:34 AM |
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Kinda respect those who cannot think straight and believe what Sector is shtting.. maybe they invested a lot and no choice to take his sht..
What Sector says could be true or not true. It sounds like a lame excuse. On the other hand, some small payouts still come through and more important, he is not encouraging anyone to deposit more money. Scam or not scam, in either case this is good advice. I am still a bit puzzled with the question why a scammer would give this advice. Anyway, it would be nice if the warning "DO NOT INVEST RIGHT NOW" on the ore-mine main page came through as Sector said, for those users who are not reading this forum. |
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dorik
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January 16, 2016, 09:36:39 AM |
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Hello sector! To be honest, bonuses in the mines were already too low in December 2015, I have personally in October and November was 6-7 bonuses (additional facilities) for the week, and from December 2015 to date exactly 2 bonus for a week. And this despite the fact that I bought mine in late November with a shorter time period of repayment of the deposit! Why is this fact hidden  If you burned on the stock exchange - it just happens! I understand that you want to block the losses and keep working! We all want to work on! Consider please now work scheme that was beneficial to both you and the users! And let us in the future to work with stable and transparent rules that do not have such situations as they are now, and no longer undermines the confidence of users to YOU !!! Good luck. |
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psy112
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January 16, 2016, 09:58:24 AM |
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So what's up? been waiting on my withdraw for 4 days now. It's fine by me to put a pause on the bonus mines to recop some bankroll, just as long as you don't touch the mines I've paid for, or give me a refund on them!
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knightlife999
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January 16, 2016, 10:00:53 AM |
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It's possible that the 22% loss may have just happened while they were sitting in a trade on the wrong side of the market. Regardless of the details, the number is 22% lost. I'm sure that has happened.
If my theory (posted earlier) is true, they are likely sitting in fiat after selling around $450. If they are trading the majority of the funds on hand, which is likely due to the fact that they are under pressure to payout on the New Year Mines, their mining income is what is sustaining their ability to pay small withdrawals. They have a lot of pressure to fulfill the New Year Mine sales. To make it profitable, they need to more than double the funds in 30 days. They are probably shooting to triple the funds. After the 22% mistake, they are also trying to make a big win and get back the majority of what was lost.
Take a look at a BTC chart. Note that it became clear there was going to be a correction around 1/10-1/11. Same time that withdrawals became stuck. If they are using a good trading bot, or they are good traders, ore-mine would have done one of three things: Sell all BTC into fiat at $450-$500, and wait for the market to drop so that they can buy back in to BTC. Short sell on Bitfinex. Or buy Short contracts on OKcoin. In any of the three scenarios, all of their/our funds are tied up. We need BTC to bottom and reverse so that they will buy back into BTC with our money and have coins to payout withdrawals. Server arrests and such gives a week or so to allow enough time to accomplish this. Risky business. I hope they can do it. Others have tried with best of intentions and let down their customers. Effective trading is a great way to multiply capital. It makes me feel more secure with the investment knowing that income is derived from more than just mining. We all know what happens with cloud mining companies.
Sector, if you are actively trading BTC, you should contact me. I have accurate forecasting systems specifically for BTC. 85% accuracy rating. I just want to ensure that you guys are successful. All of our money is riding on it. I'm not trying to cause any trouble. I respect that Sector is working to fix the problem. What I would like is to be able to assist and help safeguard everyone's investment. Or, at least get to the bottom of what is really going on.
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hobiedenbosch
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January 16, 2016, 10:17:58 AM |
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Dear users,
I will leave in the middle if all is true or not.
Seeing my experience, I will give sector more than the benefit of the doubt.
This means I am more on his side, believing his story.
About the losses. He is thinking with you.
If it is necessary that he has to cut down a bit of payment I am willing to do so.
Even if this means that for 1 month or so there are no bonusses, or even if production is cut with 25% for one month.
If this fixes his asset issues, than it is fine for me.
Seeing that I would rather have 6 or more months of income here than no having it all, and in 2 months the possibility that everything is gone.
don't get me wrong, I would prefer everything for the next 20 years if possible, that would be nice, but also be realistic.
If everybody here can help fix it, not by donating or sending more money, but by giving him a bit of time to sort things out, that would be greater in the long run.
I am still having some hope that it will be fixed.
So maybe, it is good if we could all keep every bought mine, but for now lose a little bit of income and get more in the long run.
Some food for thought.
So far, this situation sucks for a lot of people, and I also believe for Sector himself. It doesn't seem he is scamming, but there are mixed signals. But as mentioned. I will cheer in his favour and hope things are sorted out.
Hope to invest some more here in the future if everything is a bit more stable.
Just keep informing us please.
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jadefalke
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January 16, 2016, 10:40:28 AM |
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Kinda respect those who cannot think straight and believe what Sector is shtting.. maybe they invested a lot and no choice to take his sht..
What Sector says could be true or not true. It sounds like a lame excuse. On the other hand, some small payouts still come through and more important, he is not encouraging anyone to deposit more money. Scam or not scam, in either case this is good advice. I am still a bit puzzled with the question why a scammer would give this advice. Anyway, it would be nice if the warning "DO NOT INVEST RIGHT NOW" on the ore-mine main page came through as Sector said, for those users who are not reading this forum. lol, he is not begging for money? how do you call Holiday sale with 45% off and new Year mine with that fishy 100% ROI Deal after 1 Month? For offering such a money-Burning Deal like the new Year Deal you have only 2 Reason either your short on Money and Your Ponzi is about to collapse and you need fresh money or you want to get a lot of money for the "Exit" and as we know all Cloud Ponzi Scheme get "hacked" or involed in such thing when it's over. |
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knightlife999
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January 16, 2016, 10:43:36 AM |
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Or you're trying to acquire more capital/margin to trade back your losses during a volatile phase in the market.
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antiuser1
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January 16, 2016, 10:44:10 AM |
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@jadefalke: I obviously meant, he is not begging for money now when there are payout problems. He wrote here in this forum "DO NOT DEPOSIT". I agree with you that this promotion deals are highly suspicious.
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doubblet
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January 16, 2016, 11:21:59 AM
Last edit: January 16, 2016, 11:54:51 AM by doubblet |
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Now I know the reason why the financial service took attention at us.
Our main profit is from a Bitcoin trading, not from a mining, I told it before.
Our bots are trading on 4 markets. One of the market is cryptsy.com
After cryptsy.com became a scam, the financial service analyzed a trading volumes and maybe decided that we are connected/owners of cryptsy.com (because our deposits and withdrawals from cryptsy were huge).
Then they arrested our servers.
We have two copies of a full backup of a database and a wallet, and these backup are placed on servers from two different Ukrainian companies. But servers from both companies are currently arrested.
Firstly we decided not to place servers in USA or in EU, because servers in these places can be easily closed by any government service. As I already know, in Ukraine servers can be closed too.
Well, it's not good.
Our lawyers will finish their job soon. Their conclusion is that we did not break a law and we should win. But I also have been noticed than in some cases there are no any laws for government services. Any funds or companies can be arrested, any person can be arrested or even killed and nobody will look at the law. I did not say any word about a country which is doing that, but I guess all of you know which country I am talking about.
Some bad news: In case when we will take a control of our servers again, we will need to close some mines or to reduce all the production of users. Or I will set all bonuses fields as empty. We have some losses of our funds (about 22.6%). It was a trading volume on cryptsy.com. Now I really think that they will not allow us to receive this money back.
I would have because a compromise as it would be if you were to remove the 2.32% INTEREST ON DEPOSITS and the transaction fees increased by 20% so that could compensate for their loss your and that would not burden the investors so much or how do you think people? |
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bryan21764
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January 16, 2016, 11:33:11 AM |
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Just wondering if anyone has heard anything new?
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wpstudio
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January 16, 2016, 01:04:39 PM |
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Just wondering if anyone has heard anything new?
You might want to READ the thread. Because yes new things were brought to the discussion. |
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antiuser1
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January 16, 2016, 01:08:48 PM |
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Just wondering if anyone has heard anything new?
We finally landed on the moon. |
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January 16, 2016, 02:22:38 PM |
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Just wondering if anyone has heard anything new?
We finally landed on the moon.   made my day OT: I believe that Sector does a good job - whether he is scam us or not  i have some funds there but i just followed the basic rule: do not spend more as you can afford to loose ! I would prefer the limitation of the bonus more then closing mines. |
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HydroThunder
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January 16, 2016, 02:28:21 PM |
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I was gonna post and say stop bumping the thread until something interesting happens, but for once it seems it had.
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Noonian
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January 16, 2016, 02:56:49 PM |
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I see posts addressing the withdrawel problems showing up on the reviews section on Ore-mine.org. Thanks Sector. I wouldn't mind if bonuses would be halted for a period of time. The minimum I want is ROI.
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techindo
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January 16, 2016, 03:00:21 PM |
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Keep Calm everybody, everything gonna be ok.. sector is working hard for we all now.. don't make troubling issues. sector and we all in ore-mine is together in sickness and good times.
He knows the value of a trust that has been built over the years and he may not eliminate it .
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james.lent
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January 16, 2016, 03:32:42 PM |
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Keep Calm everybody, everything gonna be ok.. sector is working hard for we all now.. don't make troubling issues. sector and we all in ore-mine is together in sickness and good times.
He knows the value of a trust that has been built over the years and he may not eliminate it .
He's probably sipping down some pina-colada now |
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kentsbits
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January 16, 2016, 03:37:56 PM |
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I wasn't aware Sector was giving us a choice in order to maintain solvency, maybe I misread his post. To put it plainly, before any of this was surfacing, before there were withdrawal problems, before the servers were arrested, before anything, I sent a support ticket that basically said their payouts were not sustainable and I wanted to make them aware there was at least one user out there that fully supported a reduction in payout in order to maintain solvency.
I don't care how he achieves it. I never counted on the bonuses nor have I ever counted on 3-4 month ROI. I don't even care if everything Sector said was a lie. If he needs to manufacture a 2 week misunderstanding so that he can keep this going, go for it. I don't care as long as the site doesn't fold and I can continue earning anything more than 50% ROI (or a 2 year ROI in other terms).
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