["WAIT LIST"] BFL Mini-Rig Order Date/Ship Date

[psahx]

This thread will serve to track the order and shipping dates of the BFL Mini-Rigs.  

Thanks for sharing with the info, really helpful.

[Inaba]

I'll take that bet, too.

[Miner612]

I am saving up to buy one ... man I cannot wait.

[WhitePhantom]

Ordered: 03/06/2012
Shipped: 07/09/2012
Qty: 2

[MPOE-PR]

Wow so five by now, that's ~1% of total hash power. BFL's starting to make some real dents.

[JWU42]

There is likely 20+ ordered (one guy mentioned ordering 6 -- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76217.msg845633#msg845633) but suspect many don't want to reveal their expansion goals. 

[Inaba]

This thread and the singles thread only represent a fraction of actual orders.  I know of quite a few singles (> 50, not including all of my orders which I also have not reported) that are not reported in the other thread, and I know of a number of mini-rigs that are not reported here.  These two threads aren't really useful for gauging ship times on much of anything, other than your relative place in line.

[MPOE-PR]

There is likely 20+ ordered but suspect many don't want to reveal their expansion goals.

This thread and the singles thread only represent a fraction of actual orders.  I know of quite a few singles (> 50, not including all of my orders which I also have not reported) that are not reported in the other thread

Shocking that diff has been dropping for ~1 month then, isn't it. I wonder if we'll go over 2mn by Q3 then.

[SysRun]

This thread and the singles thread only represent a fraction of actual orders.  I know of quite a few singles (> 50, not including all of my orders which I also have not reported) that are not reported in the other thread, and I know of a number of mini-rigs that are not reported here.  These two threads aren't really useful for gauging ship times on much of anything, other than your relative place in line.

I disagree with your point about the threads not being useful for gauging ship times. I believe they are doing a great job of accurately measuring the actual ship times. Perhaps you mean they shouldn't be used for estimating future ship times, but it is the best measurement we have. If anyone has anything better please let us know.

[Inaba]

But measuring actual ship times are a measurement of past performance and are already a known quantity.  Who cares that you received your unit in 7 weeks, 3 days and 14 hours?  It matters little.  The point of tracking it is to estimate future ship times, and as you said, it's not really useful for that, since only a fraction of the orders are reported here. 

Just because they got a blob of orders shipped out to people who posted here and you are "next in line" for orders that are posted here  doesn't mean there's not 75 singles ahead of you in line, that aren't reported here.  That was my point.

[SgtSpike]

But measuring actual ship times are a measurement of past performance and are already a known quantity.  Who cares that you received your unit in 7 weeks, 3 days and 14 hours?  It matters little.  The point of tracking it is to estimate future ship times, and as you said, it's not really useful for that, since only a fraction of the orders are reported here. 

Just because they got a blob of orders shipped out to people who posted here and you are "next in line" for orders that are posted here  doesn't mean there's not 75 singles ahead of you in line, that aren't reported here.  That was my point.

That's why it's called an estimate.

It's certainly better than nothing, which is what we would otherwise have.  Right now, we know that they've basically made it through all of the January orders.  We wouldn't know that if this list hadn't been created.

[Inaba]

I'm not trying to dissuade you from posting about it.. I'm just pointing out the information is functionally useless.  So you know they've made it through the January orders... now what?  Are there 250 singles in prep before the next person "in line" on these forums gets his shipped, or is he really the next in line?  Who knows! 

It's not an estimate because the data you have is completely unrelated to the data that affects shipping dates/times.  I mean, I guess you can call it an estimate, but when you have only 25% o the available information (and I am being generous), the estimate means very little.

I mean.. I "estimate" that the block rate difficulty will be 1.75 million in 3 months, but that estimate is really meaningless, since very little of the variables are known at this point. 

[SgtSpike]

I'm not trying to dissuade you from posting about it.. I'm just pointing out the information is functionally useless.  So you know they've made it through the January orders... now what?  Are there 250 singles in prep before the next person "in line" on these forums gets his shipped, or is he really the next in line?  Who knows! 

It's not an estimate because the data you have is completely unrelated to the data that affects shipping dates/times.  I mean, I guess you can call it an estimate, but when you have only 25% o the available information (and I am being generous), the estimate means very little.

I mean.. I "estimate" that the block rate difficulty will be 1.75 million in 3 months, but that estimate is really meaningless, since very little of the variables are known at this point. 

I guess we have different takes on what a meaningful estimate is then. 

It's better than nothing, that is all I am trying to say.  If they make it through February and March orders at the same pace as January orders, then I could expect my singles to arrive near the end of May.  If they don't make it through as quickly, then maybe June or July.  But at least I have SOME idea of when I might be able to expect them.

If the list wasn't here, I would have no idea whether to expect my singles tomorrow, or 5 months from now.  With the list, I can kind of judge how quickly they are getting through the current orders, and make a reasonable guesstimate as to when I will receive my order.  And that guesstimate will only get more accurate as they start shipping orders closer and closer to mine.  It's not a 100% sure thing, like you said, someone right before me could have ordered 1000 singles, who knows.  But it's a best guess.  It's better than nothing.  It's a reasonable estimate.

[tarrant_01]

I wasn't expecting much for this list but since someone asked for it, I decided to make it.  There is not a lot of room for estimation right now with this list, but I think the singles list provides more information especially for the April orders.  People seem to be more confident now that they are seeing the "large" amount of shipments and so they not only place an order but they make it public as well.  I'm sure the singles wait list also affects their business in a positive way.

I think the big one will be when BlackPropor's order of 50 is shipped. It'll be a good indicator to the public of how well they are handling large orders.  In reality it's no different than all of the small orders, but people view it as a huge bottle neck.

[SgtSpike]

I wasn't expecting much for this list but since someone asked for it, I decided to make it.  There is not a lot of room for estimation right now with this list, but I think the singles list provides more information especially for the April orders.  People seem to be more confident now that they are seeing the "large" amount of shipments and so they not only place an order but they make it public as well.  I'm sure the singles wait list also affects their business in a positive way.

I think the big one will be when BlackPropor's order of 50 is shipped. It'll be a good indicator to the public of how well they are handling large orders.  In reality it's no different than all of the small orders, but people view it as a huge bottle neck.

And unfortunately, his is right before mine. 

[MPOE-PR]

It's not an estimate because the data you have is completely unrelated to the data that affects shipping dates/times.

This is false. The data they have is related, being a [badly selected] sample. As the OP said, still better than nothing.

[JWU42]

Order confirmed April 27, 2012

[Paladin69]

Ordered = 5/3/2012
Qty = 1

Any chance I'll see this by July?  After reading all of these posts, I get the feeling BFL "tests" equipment by mining for their own btc before shipping it.

[rjk]

Ordered = 5/3/2012
Qty = 1

Any chance I'll see this by July?  After reading all of these posts, I get the feeling BFL "tests" equipment by mining for their own btc before shipping it.

I remember hearing that they mine on eligius to the eligius donation address to do the burn in.

[SgtSpike]

Ordered = 5/3/2012
Qty = 1

Any chance I'll see this by July?  After reading all of these posts, I get the feeling BFL "tests" equipment by mining for their own btc before shipping it.

Why do people keep bringing up this ridiculous conspiracy theory?  And what difference would it make as to whether you would buy one or not?