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[arallmuus]

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The thing is that in reality it's never 54% or even 33.3% for someone to score, it is much lower than that, always. Those odds we can see on various betting sites do not represent real odds. Rather they("odds") reflect how many bettors, or what part of bettors, put their hopes on this or that player. (Actually, it's about how much money is placed on this or that player). So, if 60% of the pool's money is placed on, say, Tammy Abraham, no way it means he has those chances to score.

Now that you mention this, I kinda realized that the odds in betting site will significantly decrease sometimes if there are alot of people that choose to wager on that bet. There isnt any way to calculate the exact odds or anything close to the exact odds However if FJ offer 1 btc to hit 7/7 for free to anyone without any string attached, If anything it would be less than 0.00001 % 
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I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

Regarding the odds, I think you are about right with your 0.00001 % estimation.

Im not sure about this unless someone who actually hit 7/7 could testify about this. But there isnt any wager requirement in their terms and conditions. It just says that whoever hit 7/7 will receive the grand prize of 1 btc, if more than 1 people hit 7/7 then they would share the prize equally

Correct predictions for all seven games makes you the winner of 1 BTC. In case having more than one player eligible for the grand prize, the above-described amount is equally distributed.

Also given that how hard it is to hit 7/7 then it would be normal if there isnt any wager requirement but instead straight grandprize onto your balance

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What I had in mind wouldn't be as simple as like picking a winner tho.  Maybe something like picking a winner and which round across all matches of the event.

That would be harder than guessing the goalscorer for the current Majestic 7. Each UFC has 5 rounds and some match may not end with TKO in 5 rounds but instead it goes to judge decision

so it would be 6 rounds in total, The odds for both that would be 1/2*1/6 = 1/12

1/12^7 would be somewhere around 0.0000027 % chance to hit 7/7 

P.S : My calculation could be wrong so feel free to correct it

[BitSat19]

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The thing is that in reality it's never 54% or even 33.3% for someone to score, it is much lower than that, always. Those odds we can see on various betting sites do not represent real odds. Rather they("odds") reflect how many bettors, or what part of bettors, put their hopes on this or that player. (Actually, it's about how much money is placed on this or that player). So, if 60% of the pool's money is placed on, say, Tammy Abraham, no way it means he has those chances to score.

Now that you mention this, I kinda realized that the odds in betting site will significantly decrease sometimes if there are alot of people that choose to wager on that bet. There isnt any way to calculate the exact odds or anything close to the exact odds However if FJ offer 1 btc to hit 7/7 for free to anyone without any string attached, If anything it would be less than 0.00001 % 
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I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

Regarding the odds, I think you are about right with your 0.00001 % estimation.

This is good question hopefully FJ team will give official reply about this because for 5 and 6 we have free bet which need only win for withdraw but for 7/7 they will give 1 BTC in balance or this could free bet I am also not sure about this.

[slaman29]

My picks @Trofo and @BitcoinGirl.Club if we have no bad luck then surely we are going to win prize this week because I just check we have five same picks and just 2 are not matching so hopefully we will able to have prize and end of this season because now its very long time I am living here without any free bet from gambling sites.

Looks like we all had bad luck with Liverpool, unless we chose Mane, which I know I didn't haha even though he seems to be an obvious choice these days!

Anyway tokeweed yes I think we would love to play any type of "free" game but I don't know UFC much at all so I would be making blind picks. Football is way more popular and we know all the teams well.

[BitSat19]

My picks @Trofo and @BitcoinGirl.Club if we have no bad luck then surely we are going to win prize this week because I just check we have five same picks and just 2 are not matching so hopefully we will able to have prize and end of this season because now its very long time I am living here without any free bet from gambling sites.

Looks like we all had bad luck with Liverpool, unless we chose Mane, which I know I didn't haha even though he seems to be an obvious choice these days!

Anyway tokeweed yes I think we would love to play any type of "free" game but I don't know UFC much at all so I would be making blind picks. Football is way more popular and we know all the teams well.

When we have competitions like this and big money is coming then every one can do some search and have good knowledge of any sport without any serious trouble as its really fun for many and extra money is also coming I personally have many competitions and some good prizes as well I will also join if FJ going to start any new competition.

[Emitdama]

@arallmuus
Well, odds are basically like that for everything, not just scorers. For example when you see a regular match and Madrid has 1.2 and opponent has 3.8 or whatever, that doesn't mean that Madrid has a chance to win the game that much, it could be around that much, lower, or higher chance to win.

However since it is football, anything could happen and that means Madrid could lose 10-0 as well, sure it is close to impossible but it is there, we never know the real odds because it is not a provably fair dice game we are talking about, it is human game played with humans that could do well or bad and we will never know.

But, the odds are given based on how much people bet on the teams, sportsbooks basically try to create a "rake" system between people who wager on one team versus wager on other team so that they do not lose money.

[Pmalek]

I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

I haven't looked at the rules or TOS, but I can say with almost 100% certainty that there are no such strings attached. Guessing 7/7 goal scorers correctly is an incredible thing by itself. And as we have seen so far, an impossible goal. Connecting that with high wagering requirements seems unrealistic.

[arallmuus]

@arallmuus
Well, odds are basically like that for everything, not just scorers. For example when you see a regular match and Madrid has 1.2 and opponent has 3.8 or whatever, that doesn't mean that Madrid has a chance to win the game that much, it could be around that much, lower, or higher chance to win.

However since it is football, anything could happen and that means Madrid could lose 10-0 as well, sure it is close to impossible but it is there

I do understand that odds means nothing when we are talking/playing a game with literally nothing to lose . However if it is some sort of promotion that require you to wager or risk specific amount then it is natural for us to check on the odds. Although promotions are meant to be EV- but Some promotions could be EV+ in some circumstances

By calculating the odds, you get better knowledge and understanding of how to works things out to be much more favorable to you

we never know the real odds because it is not a provably fair dice game we are talking about, it is human game played with humans that could do well or bad and we will never know.

Provably fair has nothing to do with odds 

Here is a starter pack for you to understand more about provably fair https://dicesites.com/provably-fair

[Bitinity]

I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

I haven't looked at the rules or TOS, but I can say with almost 100% certainty that there are no such strings attached. Guessing 7/7 goal scorers correctly is an incredible thing by itself. And as we have seen so far, an impossible goal. Connecting that with high wagering requirements seems unrealistic.

The T&C of the Majestic 7 says "General terms and conditions apply", not really sure which terms and conditions applies for the winning prize of Majestic 7 but I also guess there is no wagering requirement for it. It is just insane if there is 30-40x wagering requirement for such hard thing to win. Since we have some winners for the 5/7 or 6/7, hopefully they can share how about their winning from the freebet. Whether they need to wager it xx time first before they can withdraw the winning from the freebet or not.

[ralle14]

The T&C of the Majestic 7 says "General terms and conditions apply", not really sure which terms and conditions applies for the winning prize of Majestic 7 but I also guess there is no wagering requirement for it. It is just insane if there is 30-40x wagering requirement for such hard thing to win. Since we have some winners for the 5/7 or 6/7, hopefully they can share how about their winning from the freebet. Whether they need to wager it xx time first before they can withdraw the winning from the freebet or not.

Free bets usually don't have any rollover requirement and since nothing was stated in the terms and conditions of the contest(and in the general t&c) I think we can safely assume there's none except for the freebet itself. Clearing 30x-40x would be annoying but it's easier for sportsbook as long as the counted wager isn't reduced and no minimum odds.

[buwaytress]

I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

I haven't looked at the rules or TOS, but I can say with almost 100% certainty that there are no such strings attached. Guessing 7/7 goal scorers correctly is an incredible thing by itself. And as we have seen so far, an impossible goal. Connecting that with high wagering requirements seems unrealistic.

You've been playing and don't know? Haha, no there aren't any strings attached, it's been confirmed in the past. 1 BTC all yours. I've won the freebet and the winnings were all mine to withdraw. Unfortunately I managed to find a way to turn my $700+ winnings from freeet into zero when I bet all-in on Champions League on Liverpool. I hope I do withdraw at least 0.5 BTC if I win the big one though!

[EdenHazard]

I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

I haven't looked at the rules or TOS, but I can say with almost 100% certainty that there are no such strings attached. Guessing 7/7 goal scorers correctly is an incredible thing by itself. And as we have seen so far, an impossible goal. Connecting that with high wagering requirements seems unrealistic.

The T&C of the Majestic 7 says "General terms and conditions apply", not really sure which terms and conditions applies for the winning prize of Majestic 7 but I also guess there is no wagering requirement for it. It is just insane if there is 30-40x wagering requirement for such hard thing to win. Since we have some winners for the 5/7 or 6/7, hopefully they can share how about their winning from the freebet. Whether they need to wager it xx time first before they can withdraw the winning from the freebet or not.

Whoops! General terms and conditions apply? What does this means exactly? Doest it mean indeed there's string attached 😁

Sounds like unclear. Fj should refer to a certain concrete terms or else simply write a bold one that says you can withdraw it anytime immediately without any requirement.
Is this the classic fj that often bring ambiguous inexplicit puzzling rules & statements 😄
Pretty often I found this here .

You've been playing and don't know? Haha, no there aren't any strings attached, it's been confirmed in the past. 1 BTC all yours. I've won the freebet and the winnings were all mine to withdraw. Unfortunately I managed to find a way to turn my $700+ winnings from freeet into zero when I bet all-in on Champions League on Liverpool. I hope I do withdraw at least 0.5 BTC if I win the big one though!

Good to know that you are vouching for them , did you correctly predicted the 5 out of 7 or 6 out of 7? And get the 7 majestic freebet mate?

The 1 btc prize might be have a different terms , no?

[Betwrong]

I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

I haven't looked at the rules or TOS, but I can say with almost 100% certainty that there are no such strings attached. Guessing 7/7 goal scorers correctly is an incredible thing by itself. And as we have seen so far, an impossible goal. Connecting that with high wagering requirements seems unrealistic.

You've been playing and don't know? Haha, no there aren't any strings attached, it's been confirmed in the past. 1 BTC all yours. I've won the freebet and the winnings were all mine to withdraw. Unfortunately I managed to find a way to turn my $700+ winnings from freeet into zero when I bet all-in on Champions League on Liverpool. I hope I do withdraw at least 0.5 BTC if I win the big one though!

Idk, guys, I think since it's a free roll it would be fair to require some rollover, but if there is no such requirement ... well, that's a generous move on the part of FortuneJack.

Sometimes I think, if only all people in the world knew about the opportunity to win 1 BTC while risking absolutely nothing, how many participants would be there? Millions? Tens of millions? More?

[arallmuus]

Idk, guys, I think since it's a free roll it would be fair to require some rollover, but if there is no such requirement ... well, that's a generous move on the part of FortuneJack.

Given the chance to actually hit 7/7 is pretty low, there is no reason for them to add some bogus string like that I'd assume  

Sometimes I think, if only all people in the world knew about the opportunity to win 1 BTC while risking absolutely nothing, how many participants would be there? Millions? Tens of millions? More?

Even if alot more people know about majestic 7, it doesnt mean they will join it. I dont even think that the whole player that plays on FJ join this event although most of them probably notice it as it is shown on their top right screen each time they visit FJ

This should be a pipping hot promotions for alot of people after it launched but given how hard it is to even get 5/7 , some people might never try to guess this again after trying for their first time . Not unless you truly love football, if you are not really a fans of football then you wont really come back for this everytime it restart 

[buwaytress]

Idk, guys, I think since it's a free roll it would be fair to require some rollover, but if there is no such requirement ... well, that's a generous move on the part of FortuneJack.

Sometimes I think, if only all people in the world knew about the opportunity to win 1 BTC while risking absolutely nothing, how many participants would be there? Millions? Tens of millions? More?

Can we find 1 million people who know how to use Bitcoin and who know about football and for whom it would be legal and easy to open a FJ account, and also willing to do KYC should they be asked? Probably not, but yeah of course, there are so many opportunities to win free things and you'd think a lot more people would join but it's all a question of value and perceived likelihood. I don't play free games for sports/games I know nothing about unless it happens to be on my platform and a few clicks away =)

Are you seriously asking them to give a rollover requirement? Haha =D

[virasog]

Idk, guys, I think since it's a free roll it would be fair to require some rollover, but if there is no such requirement ... well, that's a generous move on the part of FortuneJack.

Sometimes I think, if only all people in the world knew about the opportunity to win 1 BTC while risking absolutely nothing, how many participants would be there? Millions? Tens of millions? More?

Can we find 1 million people who know how to use Bitcoin and who know about football and for whom it would be legal and easy to open a FJ account, and also willing to do KYC should they be asked? Probably not, but yeah of course, there are so many opportunities to win free things and you'd think a lot more people would join but it's all a question of value and perceived likelihood. I don't play free games for sports/games I know nothing about unless it happens to be on my platform and a few clicks away =)

Are you seriously asking them to give a rollover requirement? Haha =D

One day 1 million people will use bitcoin and all the football fans who like to gamble as well, will make an account on the best site, Fortune Jack and bet on it. This is not impossible to happen but will they all be willing to perform KYC, I have doubt on it. If KYC requirement is removed, many more people can join the online gambling and betting sites.

[BitSat19]

Idk, guys, I think since it's a free roll it would be fair to require some rollover, but if there is no such requirement ... well, that's a generous move on the part of FortuneJack.

Sometimes I think, if only all people in the world knew about the opportunity to win 1 BTC while risking absolutely nothing, how many participants would be there? Millions? Tens of millions? More?

Can we find 1 million people who know how to use Bitcoin and who know about football and for whom it would be legal and easy to open a FJ account, and also willing to do KYC should they be asked? Probably not, but yeah of course, there are so many opportunities to win free things and you'd think a lot more people would join but it's all a question of value and perceived likelihood. I don't play free games for sports/games I know nothing about unless it happens to be on my platform and a few clicks away =)

Are you seriously asking them to give a rollover requirement? Haha =D

One day 1 million people will use bitcoin and all the football fans who like to gamble as well, will make an account on the best site, Fortune Jack and bet on it. This is not impossible to happen but will they all be willing to perform KYC, I have doubt on it. If KYC requirement is removed, many more people can join the online gambling and betting sites.

If some one able to check then surely he can verify that KYC is not for all its just for big players and surely if we have one million peoples we will have very few those will need to clear KYC as mostly peoples not going with big amounts here in crypto world so its really not problem for all just 7% to 10% can face this KYC all others can live without this.

[Pmalek]

The T&C of the Majestic 7 says "General terms and conditions apply", not really sure which terms and conditions applies for the winning prize of Majestic 7 but I also guess there is no wagering requirement for it. It is just insane if there is 30-40x wagering requirement for such hard thing to win.

General Terms and Conditions and Bonus Terms and Conditions are two different things. Deposit bonuses are tied to the Bonus Terms and Conditions and the bonus money has to be wagered 30-40 (whatever the wagering requirements are) times. If you deposit money to the casino, those funds don't need to be wagered 30-40 times. Probably 1-2 times.

if you get a 5/7 or 6/7 you get a Freebet. You have to wager that once and that is it. The 1 BTC is yours to keep, unless FJ says otherwise.

[morvillz7z]

I'm relatively new to FJ but i got a little something from Majestic 7 while this being my second try (had two correct picks on matchweek 32)...not too shabby for a newcomer. I was 50/50 picking between Pulisic and Giroud, needless to say, it could have easily been 6.  

I will go ham with my free bet on Atalanta and Sassuolo matches (if the bet is credited by then of course)...🤞

[lixer]

Idk, guys, I think since it's a free roll it would be fair to require some rollover, but if there is no such requirement ... well, that's a generous move on the part of FortuneJack.

Sometimes I think, if only all people in the world knew about the opportunity to win 1 BTC while risking absolutely nothing, how many participants would be there? Millions? Tens of millions? More?

Can we find 1 million people who know how to use Bitcoin and who know about football and for whom it would be legal and easy to open a FJ account, and also willing to do KYC should they be asked? Probably not, but yeah of course, there are so many opportunities to win free things and you'd think a lot more people would join but it's all a question of value and perceived likelihood. I don't play free games for sports/games I know nothing about unless it happens to be on my platform and a few clicks away =)

Are you seriously asking them to give a rollover requirement? Haha =D

One day 1 million people will use bitcoin and all the football fans who like to gamble as well, will make an account on the best site, Fortune Jack and bet on it. This is not impossible to happen but will they all be willing to perform KYC, I have doubt on it. If KYC requirement is removed, many more people can join the online gambling and betting sites.

I think if tens of millions of people shown how they can do it, they would do it. We are talking about going for 7/7 on a free guessing game that pays 9 thousand dollars, that is a lot of money for something free. If you are telling me that people don't even do it as fortunejack players that is probably because they are not aware of the situation very well. Hell even if you have no idea about football, just go there and click on some random names (even picking goalkeeper along the way) and you can't lose anything, it is free and it is every week.

So ,I agree that if it is something that tens of millions of people or basically all people in the world were aware of and shown how it could be done, everyone would do it, there isn't anything else where you can put in free and you still get out 1 bitcoin from it.

[tomahawk9]

Come on, ladies and gentleman! go on and post those Majestic 7 picks! I was close to winning a free bet in the last one, but i had to pick Welbeck rather than Antonio or Deeney, ffs!!    

my picks for next matchweek: Wood - Harry - Maupay - RJ - Auba - Martial Law - Mané

I will go ham with my free bet on Atalanta and Sassuolo matches (if the bet is credited by then of course)...🤞

last time i won a freebet, took less than 24h to arrive to my acc. Hey, how about using that freebet on some esports games? maybe a Furia ML? lol