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April 28, 2012, 09:38:30 PM
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can you give us more info

Nope. You can read the press release when we're ready. It was supposed to be released 3 months ago, so that means any day now.  Wink

See.. somebody who will release a product then make the hype press release about it. It can be done instead of the vaporware model
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April 28, 2012, 09:40:14 PM
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Wow!  Subscribing Smiley

Yes, all the tracking and advertisement bullshit is creepy but just so many people want that and if that's the price of getting bitcoin main stream, I'm all for it. The infrastructure would still be bitcoin so privacy aware people could still seamlessly use android devices or brainwallets or whatever they like.

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April 28, 2012, 10:39:59 PM
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Subscribed.  Looks like a great idea.
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April 28, 2012, 11:00:35 PM
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this bitcoincard sure looks cute.

but why not use your smartphone/wlan as an uplink instead of the seemingly brittle mesh networking and solar power..

Probably you can, when that is available.

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April 28, 2012, 11:09:28 PM
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Yes, all the tracking and advertisement bullshit is creepy

+1

But other than that... so cool!
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April 29, 2012, 12:51:44 AM
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I didn't understand how they want to track the carts and if it works with such a high accuracy i wouldn't use one.

I like the idea of a p2p text message network, the devices don't need a high range if many ppl use it and it could decrease fees by a lot i guess.
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April 29, 2012, 01:39:05 PM
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The device looks really cool and all, but a detail disappointed me.

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- if the wallet is lost, the money is also lost;

Well, that means you cannot use it for storage, as backups are not possible. I find it a pity since this is the first dedicated device to store bitcoins. A dedicated device is the ultimate security one can have against malware. It could be the perfect place for everybody, included non-geeks, to store their coins.
But if no backup is possible, then, well, this card becomes another way to transfer bitcoins around, just like smartphones apps are doing, but "sexier". It is not a safe place to store any more coins than what you can afford to lose.

I hope they also consider making a dedicated device meant mainly for safe storage of bitcoins. That would require the ability to safely backup your coins (deterministic wallet seed generated by the device, encrypted in the device, and transfered to a computer, or directly to a backup service perhaps). Plausible deniability would be an important feature too, to protect against robbers capable of threatening you.
Such device doesn't need to be portable, as you don't really need to leave your house with all your coins. It could be as large as tablet for example, or even larger. It doesn't need to be "sexy" either (supposing that you can make it cheaper by dropping some of the "cool" features like touchscreen, color display etc), Actually, they could make such device also act as the gateway for the smaller bitcoincard, and sell both in a package. Wink
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April 29, 2012, 08:35:46 PM
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use the search function for the dedicated wallet printer

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April 29, 2012, 08:39:28 PM
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A bunch of us are flying out to Austria next month to see the product in action.

Will keep everyone updated

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April 29, 2012, 09:05:38 PM
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Can't wait! This could be huge

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April 29, 2012, 10:10:50 PM
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A bunch of us are flying out to Austria next month to see the product in action.

Will keep everyone updated
Austria, eh? Hmm, sounds like fun.

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April 29, 2012, 10:13:31 PM
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A bunch of us are flying out to Austria next month to see the product in action.

Will keep everyone updated
Austria, eh? Hmm, sounds like fun.

LOL I've never been, was that a joke?

Im excited, Im gonna meetup with VirWox.com, Bitstamp.net, and the BTC-E.com while I'm in the region.

Alot of people are nervous if the above companies even exist, I will take pictures with everyone  Grin

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April 29, 2012, 10:14:27 PM
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A bunch of us are flying out to Austria next month to see the product in action.

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Austria, eh? Hmm, sounds like fun.

LOL I've never been, was that a joke?

Im excited, Im gonna meetup with VirWox.com, Bitstamp.net, and the BTC-E.com while I'm in the region.

Alot of people are nervous if the above companies even exist, I will take pictures with everyone  Grin

That'll be fun ^_^

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April 29, 2012, 10:18:01 PM
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Austria, eh? Hmm, sounds like fun.
LOL I've never been, was that a joke?
Not a joke, I was just avoiding saying dammit you lucky fuck, that place is beautiful in so many words. Oops, too late.

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April 30, 2012, 12:06:57 AM
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Don't most people use wallets that block rfid now, wouldn't that mess with it?

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April 30, 2012, 03:38:24 AM
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Don't most people use wallets that block rfid now, wouldn't that mess with it?

yes, while it was in the blocking wallet; but most of those are for passive rfid formats like in passports.  These devices are active units with their own processors, and don't depend upon the security of the readers or trust that all readers are themselves trustworthy.

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April 30, 2012, 08:07:42 AM
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use the search function for the dedicated wallet printer

You mean this?

It's cool, thanks for the tip. I guess it's not something my mother would feel comfortable using yet, but it's definitely safe and probably not expensive. Smiley
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April 30, 2012, 03:25:28 PM
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Don't most people use wallets that block rfid now, wouldn't that mess with it?

yes, while it was in the blocking wallet; but most of those are for passive rfid formats like in passports.  These devices are active units with their own processors, and don't depend upon the security of the readers or trust that all readers are themselves trustworthy.
What I meant is that it might be a pain to keep in wallets because they might not function correctly with a rfid blocking wallet

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April 30, 2012, 05:50:03 PM
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I think it would be a long shot for this company to be successful.  It's basically a really small computer with a wireless radio…and there's a lot more that it can be used for than just bitcoin.  This is an obvious evolutionary direction and I'd expect many hardware manufacturers to be working in this direction.  Their best bet would be to attract investment from these hardware manufacturers (but if many of them already have internal projects working on it, they may not be interested).

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May 01, 2012, 08:02:28 PM
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The project is awesome  Shocked

The only problem is that it's useful only if a lot of people already uses it otherwise it's pretty useless.
And admitting they have right the very difficult technical part it will be difficult to bootstrap it's use... or at least it should be very expensive...

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