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June 04, 2012, 03:31:38 PM
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That's a pity. nLockTime could have interesting applications.

It might yet.  It's still part of the protocol, feel free to dive in and code it into a client fork; and we shall see where that takes us.

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June 04, 2012, 03:43:27 PM
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Only days away from a report on this Bitcoin Card... stay tuned! Wink
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June 04, 2012, 03:48:32 PM
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Can't wait Cheesy

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June 04, 2012, 03:53:25 PM
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We will be blogging about it in real time!

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June 04, 2012, 04:51:53 PM
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What are the benefits to log in to bitcoincard.org?thx

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June 04, 2012, 05:35:29 PM
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We will be blogging about it in real time!
It's starting to sound like bragging!   Wink

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June 04, 2012, 09:53:58 PM
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I am curious how this will be used for purchases without a camera.

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June 04, 2012, 10:08:56 PM
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I am curious how this will be used for purchases without a camera.

Or a functional infrastructure i.e. way to connect to the actual blockchain.

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June 04, 2012, 10:52:44 PM
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I am curious how this will be used for purchases without a camera.

I suppose both sides would have to be able to communicate via radio. (both sides would probably need a bitcoincard, or something compatible)

Or a functional infrastructure i.e. way to connect to the actual blockchain.

If I understood it correctly, both sides would keep the signed tx offline until they reach a gateway through which they can send the tx to the network.
A brick and mortar merchant would probably have his gateway right there in the store.
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June 04, 2012, 11:03:17 PM
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I am curious how this will be used for purchases without a camera.

Or a functional infrastructure i.e. way to connect to the actual blockchain.

Both functions are provided for in the same way, a 'sensor' mesh network that permits such devices to talk to each other, as well as an access point wireless dongle that permits all of these type devices to talk to the Internet at large.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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June 04, 2012, 11:16:27 PM
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Or a functional infrastructure i.e. way to connect to the actual blockchain.

If I understood it correctly, both sides would keep the signed tx offline until they reach a gateway through which they can send the tx to the network.
A brick and mortar merchant would probably have his gateway right there in the store. never waste his time and money on this nerd idea anymore than he would a bitcoin POS.

FTFY.

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June 04, 2012, 11:17:11 PM
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I am curious how this will be used for purchases without a camera.

Or a functional infrastructure i.e. way to connect to the actual blockchain.

Both functions are provided for in the same way, a 'sensor' mesh network that permits such devices to talk to each other, as well as an access point wireless dongle that permits all of these type devices to talk to the Internet at large.

So now this uber light and slim card needs a dongle to function properly? The vapor thickens.

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June 04, 2012, 11:25:17 PM
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I am curious how this will be used for purchases without a camera.

Or a functional infrastructure i.e. way to connect to the actual blockchain.

Both functions are provided for in the same way, a 'sensor' mesh network that permits such devices to talk to each other, as well as an access point wireless dongle that permits all of these type devices to talk to the Internet at large.
That makes a lot of sense if it can talk to my Bluetooth phone with a built-in camera, smartphone, or whatever.

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June 04, 2012, 11:26:22 PM
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I am curious how this will be used for purchases without a camera.

Or a functional infrastructure i.e. way to connect to the actual blockchain.

Both functions are provided for in the same way, a 'sensor' mesh network that permits such devices to talk to each other, as well as an access point wireless dongle that permits all of these type devices to talk to the Internet at large.
That makes a lot of sense if it can talk to my Bluetooth phone with a built-in camera, smartphone, or whatever.

What makes no sense is to need to interface with your phone in the first place. It's like trying to sell a sports car that is pulled by a horse.

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June 04, 2012, 11:28:30 PM
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I am curious how this will be used for purchases without a camera.

Or a functional infrastructure i.e. way to connect to the actual blockchain.

Both functions are provided for in the same way, a 'sensor' mesh network that permits such devices to talk to each other, as well as an access point wireless dongle that permits all of these type devices to talk to the Internet at large.
That makes a lot of sense if it can talk to my Bluetooth phone with a built-in camera, smartphone, or whatever.

What makes no sense is to need to interface with your phone in the first place. It's like trying to sell a sports car that is pulled by a horse.

I didn't say anything about bluetooth.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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June 04, 2012, 11:32:09 PM
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I am curious how this will be used for purchases without a camera.

Or a functional infrastructure i.e. way to connect to the actual blockchain.

Both functions are provided for in the same way, a 'sensor' mesh network that permits such devices to talk to each other, as well as an access point wireless dongle that permits all of these type devices to talk to the Internet at large.
That makes a lot of sense if it can talk to my Bluetooth phone with a built-in camera, smartphone, or whatever.

What makes no sense is to need to interface with your phone in the first place. It's like trying to sell a sports car that is pulled by a horse.

I didn't say anything about bluetooth.
No, the video said unlicensed radio. I do not know what that means in every country.

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June 04, 2012, 11:45:45 PM
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I am curious how this will be used for purchases without a camera.

Or a functional infrastructure i.e. way to connect to the actual blockchain.

Both functions are provided for in the same way, a 'sensor' mesh network that permits such devices to talk to each other, as well as an access point wireless dongle that permits all of these type devices to talk to the Internet at large.
That makes a lot of sense if it can talk to my Bluetooth phone with a built-in camera, smartphone, or whatever.

What makes no sense is to need to interface with your phone in the first place. It's like trying to sell a sports car that is pulled by a horse.

I didn't say anything about bluetooth.
No, the video said unlicensed radio. I do not know what that means in every country.

I have a pretty good idea, and a cell phone is unneccesary.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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June 04, 2012, 11:50:41 PM
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Or a functional infrastructure i.e. way to connect to the actual blockchain.

If I understood it correctly, both sides would keep the signed tx offline until they reach a gateway through which they can send the tx to the network.
A brick and mortar merchant would probably have his gateway right there in the store. never waste his time and money on this nerd idea anymore than he would a bitcoin POS.

FTFY.

Hmm, I'm sure you're right.  A $30 usb dongle attached to my Internet gateway that might bring me new business for less than credit cards and offers zero threat to my existing transaction infrastructure, or $300+ to install a whole new transaction payment system wired right into my POS system.  Those are totally comparable.

EDIT: Beyond that, nothing says that the device that provides such bitcoincards access to the bitcoin network has to be owned by the shop owner.  A couple owned by the mall property owner, or a random guy walking down the block over with one on his phone, or the bitcoin geek with his own in his apartment two floors up, and it all happens.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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June 04, 2012, 11:59:18 PM
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Or a functional infrastructure i.e. way to connect to the actual blockchain.

If I understood it correctly, both sides would keep the signed tx offline until they reach a gateway through which they can send the tx to the network.
A brick and mortar merchant would probably have his gateway right there in the store. never waste his time and money on this nerd idea anymore than he would a bitcoin POS.

FTFY.

Hmm, I'm sure you're right.  A $30 usb dongle attached to my Internet gateway that might bring me new business for less than credit cards and offers zero threat to my existing transaction infrastructure, or $300+ to install a whole new transaction payment system wired right into my POS system.  Those are totally comparable.

Don't mind Matthew, he seems to be back trolling like usual after delivering a magazine, and this is even way faster to pull some useful info than watch the 5 minute video on http://bitcoincard.org or read their product and blog pages.

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June 05, 2012, 12:15:11 AM
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Don't mind Matthew, he seems to be back trolling stating his opinions as a developer for almost a year now of what Bitcoincard is trying to develop but is going to fail miserably at.


FTFY.

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