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September 17, 2014, 07:01:41 PM
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most of the women I know are escorts who accept bitcoin  Cheesy

That's the main problem.

This is how it is
Guys interested in btc = early adopters, technology driven guys, etc.
Girls interested in btc = escort kind of girl who see btc as a new way to get sent free ££££ for naked activities of some sort

How can we turn it around so girls interested in btc equals girls interested in btc? (Just like it is for guys)

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September 17, 2014, 07:03:12 PM
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If I was a girl I Would post pics of myself naked for BTC, its that fucking easy if you have a good body.
Meanwhile as a man I have no fucking other ways to own BTC beyond risking my hard earned fiat money. T...thank you bitcoin.

Oh shut up.

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September 17, 2014, 07:11:41 PM
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If I was a girl I Would post pics of myself naked for BTC, its that fucking easy if you have a good body.
Meanwhile as a man I have no fucking other ways to own BTC beyond risking my hard earned fiat money. T...thank you bitcoin.
Why don't you get a girlfriend and post pictures of her for BTC?




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September 17, 2014, 07:12:38 PM
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If I was a girl I Would post pics of myself naked for BTC, its that fucking easy if you have a good body.
Meanwhile as a man I have no fucking other ways to own BTC beyond risking my hard earned fiat money. T...thank you bitcoin.
Why don't you get a girlfriend and post pictures of her for BTC?







Lol lol lol lol Smiley

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September 17, 2014, 07:15:44 PM
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If I was a girl I Would post pics of myself naked for BTC, its that fucking easy if you have a good body.
Meanwhile as a man I have no fucking other ways to own BTC beyond risking my hard earned fiat money. T...thank you bitcoin.

Stop being an idiot, don't objectify women. Women are important both inside and outside the crypto communities. The success of the payment protocol and further adoption relies on it.

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September 17, 2014, 07:19:45 PM
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If I was a girl I Would post pics of myself naked for BTC, its that fucking easy if you have a good body.
Meanwhile as a man I have no fucking other ways to own BTC beyond risking my hard earned fiat money. T...thank you bitcoin.

Stop being an idiot, don't objectify women. Women are important both inside and outside the crypto communities. The success of the payment protocol and further adoption relies on it.

Exactly. Thank goodness there are some decent guys on here not just sexist idiots. This has restored my faith in the btc community a lil bit : )

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September 17, 2014, 09:04:18 PM
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If I was a girl I Would post pics of myself naked for BTC, its that fucking easy if you have a good body.
Meanwhile as a man I have no fucking other ways to own BTC beyond risking my hard earned fiat money. T...thank you bitcoin.

Stop being an idiot, don't objectify women. Women are important both inside and outside the crypto communities. The success of the payment protocol and further adoption relies on it.
+1

woman already represent a big if not the biggest part as a target group in ecommerce sector. (lol, now i'm also objectifying woman  Cheesy)
Some geeks buying food, soft/hardware and drugs is nice but it needs much more to grow the community.

btw welcome to the forum OP, hope you feel comfortable in here.
be aware of scammers and don't mention your gender on speculation board, sometimes testosterone driven traders tend to react a bit rough Wink

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September 17, 2014, 09:11:19 PM
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Unfortunately, this is way in most internet forums, and especially in BCT.  9 out of 10 (being generous here) posters that have female monikers usually are out to scam other posters, by preying on the weak and impulsive.

Nothing sexist at all in being safe and smart.

I don't know the stats -- I don't frequent the boards where most of these types of scammers hang out (only where the Trojan-peddling scammers hang out), so I'll take your word for it.

I am equally cautious, but there are certain criteria that immediately sets alarm bells off because they're commonly used by scammers. It's not about judging someone because they are female; it's about the same old tired tactics males use to try scam. Is it unfair that we scoff at Nigerian Princess & Nigerian lottery winners? Is it unfair and racist to state that they're likely not a Nigerian and are likely trying to pull a scam? No. Neither is it unfair to state my suspicions are aroused on this case because everything that is happening here is exactly what men who are pretending to be females say and state to make their point. I actually have more respect for women to think that they would behave this way, and it's the pathetic male scammers I am shaming here, not women.

That's a straw man. I'm arguing that calling a woman a scammer because she mentions she is one is not sufficient cause. You're arguing that individuals who obviously have no legitimate purposes on this forum (Nigerian princes) should be called out as scammers (about which we all agree).

The analogy is inaccurate. Exactly 0% of the world's population today qualify as Nigerian princes. Just under 50% of the world's population are female, and so such a claim (of "I'm a girl") made on the Internet should not be met with such exceptional scrutiny.

In my mind, it comes down to three things.


1. How sure should you be that someone is a scammer before accusing them (or loudly warning others)?

In other words, is it OK to accuse people if you're 90% sure (ChuckBuck's stats) if that also means you end up falsely accusing the other 10%? Should it make a difference if the accusation also has the potential to alienate a lot of others?


2. What kind of evidence is acceptable to use? Simply being a female is clearly not acceptable evidence. Claiming to be a Nigerian prince clearly is acceptable. What about claiming openly to be a female (different from simply being one)? Is this acceptable to use that as evidence?


3. What are the wider implications?

I don't know or care if fabiola! is a scammer or not, but:

Regardless of the scam%, what does it say about our community if we state that it's not acceptable to claim openly you are a female here on these forums? (of course, nobody cares if you claim openly you are a male)

Is it important that we, as a community, attempt to be welcoming to the "other 50%", especially given the current imbalance?

What if, in our attempt to be welcoming, we ignore potential scams? What if people lose real funds because they fall for scams about which some of us could have warned them?


There are two sides to this. I don't think hilariousandco (or most of the other individuals in this thread, obvious trolls excluded) are sexist. But I do think the line is often drawn in the wrong place, in a place that makes Bitcoin seem like a nerdy-guys-only club, and that will benefit nobody in the end.
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September 17, 2014, 09:19:36 PM
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I'm not a girl but sometimes my wife post with my account, so I'm 1/2 girl.

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September 17, 2014, 11:32:45 PM
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Unfortunately, this is way in most internet forums, and especially in BCT.  9 out of 10 (being generous here) posters that have female monikers usually are out to scam other posters, by preying on the weak and impulsive.

Nothing sexist at all in being safe and smart.

I don't know the stats -- I don't frequent the boards where most of these types of scammers hang out (only where the Trojan-peddling scammers hang out), so I'll take your word for it.

I am equally cautious, but there are certain criteria that immediately sets alarm bells off because they're commonly used by scammers. It's not about judging someone because they are female; it's about the same old tired tactics males use to try scam. Is it unfair that we scoff at Nigerian Princess & Nigerian lottery winners? Is it unfair and racist to state that they're likely not a Nigerian and are likely trying to pull a scam? No. Neither is it unfair to state my suspicions are aroused on this case because everything that is happening here is exactly what men who are pretending to be females say and state to make their point. I actually have more respect for women to think that they would behave this way, and it's the pathetic male scammers I am shaming here, not women.

That's a straw man. I'm arguing that calling a woman a scammer because she mentions she is one is not sufficient cause. You're arguing that individuals who obviously have no legitimate purposes on this forum (Nigerian princes) should be called out as scammers (about which we all agree).

The analogy is inaccurate. Exactly 0% of the world's population today qualify as Nigerian princes. Just under 50% of the world's population are female, and so such a claim (of "I'm a girl") made on the Internet should not be met with such exceptional scrutiny.

In my mind, it comes down to three things.


1. How sure should you be that someone is a scammer before accusing them (or loudly warning others)?

In other words, is it OK to accuse people if you're 90% sure (ChuckBuck's stats, not hilariousandco's) if that also means you end up falsely accusing the other 10%? Should it make a difference if the accusation also has the potential to alienate a lot of others?


2. What kind of evidence is acceptable to use? Simply being a female is clearly not acceptable evidence. Claiming to be a Nigerian prince clearly is acceptable. What about claiming openly to be a female (different from simply being one)? Is this acceptable to use that as evidence?


3. What are the wider implications?

I don't know or care if fabiola! is a scammer or not, but:

Regardless of the scam%, what does it say about our community if we state that it's not acceptable to claim openly you are a female here on these forums? (of course, nobody cares if you claim openly you are a male)

Is it important that we, as a community, attempt to be welcoming to the "other 50%", especially given the current imbalance?

What if, in our attempt to be welcoming, we ignore potential scams? What if people lose real funds because they fall for scams about which some of us could have warned them?


There are two sides to this. I don't think hilariousandco (or most of the other individuals in this thread, obvious trolls excluded) are sexist. But I do think the line is often drawn in the wrong place, in a place that that makes Bitcoin seem like a nerdy-guys-only club, and that will benefit nobody in the end.

btchris you're a legend, thanks so much. x

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September 17, 2014, 11:54:35 PM
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Lessons learned after reading the thread:
1. If you are a male wanting to scam the others, don't claim to be a female as it will likely make the others more cautious.
2. If you are a female, don't claim to be a female as someone will consider you to be a potential scammer immediately.

I am now wondering if the fact of almost all users on bitcointalk appear to be male is the cause or the effect of 1&2.

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September 18, 2014, 12:12:13 AM
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I never could have considered there might be a girl on here. I will update my mode of thinking to accommodate this ground-breaking change. Thank you

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September 18, 2014, 12:32:28 AM
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Lessons learned after reading the thread:
1. If you are a male wanting to scam the others, don't claim to be a female as it will likely make the others more cautious.
2. If you are a female, don't claim to be a female as someone will consider you to be a potential scammer immediately.

I am now wondering if the fact of almost all users on bitcointalk appear to be male is the cause or the effect of 1&2.

That last sentence is squarely on point.

With respect to your point #2, it's something I think we'd all like to see change. I don't know exactly how to change it, but until it's changed, we'll continue to propagate the all-boys-club image.
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September 18, 2014, 12:39:07 AM
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I think the issues have mainly already been covered here.  The fact that there's be a storied history of people claiming to be women who were just trying to pull some kind of psychological stunt.

I've never been to one of the in-person bitcoin meetups but I suppose that be an interesting place to try to get an idea of how many women are interested in bitcoins.

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September 18, 2014, 01:06:36 AM
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go to a bitcoin meetup and you`ll probably run into their spouse = women, and have them post their btc id here lol.
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September 18, 2014, 01:10:35 AM
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I would also imagine there are girls on this forum and in the bitcoin community, but only a small amount.

The industry definitely is trying to get more girls into technology (which would affect the Bitcoin community) and I'm definitely in favor of it.

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September 18, 2014, 02:31:40 AM
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Actually the first time I saw bitcoin accepted out in the wild wild real world, it was at a farmer's market. A woman was there,who had a table with mushrooms, that she grew in a nearby suburb. I never expected that, but wouldn't have paid with bitcoins anyways. She was hording them also, waiting for a higher price.

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September 18, 2014, 03:18:32 AM
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The issue here is that nobody really cares what gender you are when they want to initiate trades or anything else that requires some trust but if you come out and say "I'm a female" and then use suggestive words or symbols (like the kisses at the end of your posts) that will indeed set off alarm bells.


-Edit I'm sure there are certain people that do indeed care what gender you are but just like in real life those trolls need to be ignored.

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September 18, 2014, 06:56:33 AM
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I don't think you are the only girl in this forum. There are a lot of girls on this forum and I think Bitcoin is a good option for girls.
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September 18, 2014, 07:29:26 AM
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Ps. What's improving someone's trust? Can someone explain how this forum works?

Since this has not been answered yet.

#1 you click on someones name, which shows their profile
#2 at the bottom is trust, which opens the trust page [1]
#3 at the bottom of that page you can leave positive or negative feedback. Its intendet for trading, but I occasionally use it to remind myself that I dont want to deal with certain people here. There is a lengthy part about it in the unofficial faq [2] if you want to know more.

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I don't think hilariousandco (or most of the other individuals in this thread, obvious trolls excluded) are sexist. But I do think the line is often drawn in the wrong place, in a place that makes Bitcoin seem like a nerdy-guys-only club, and that will benefit nobody in the end.

I think most are not even aware of the sex- and racism in their language or "normal" behaviour.


[1] e.g. mine: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=181801
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0#post_faq

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