Cointerra AIRE Miner 16nm PreOrder

[dropt]

Remember folks: This company missed their targets: power, hashrate, and shipping on their first attempt.  They also provided lackluster support to any of their customers, and in the face of everyone that bought HW, they opened up their own mine to sell power to people at an enormously inflated 'ripoff' price.

Learn from the mistakes of those before you, don't pre-order, and most certainly don't pre-order from Cointerra.

[Blazed]

Remember folks: This company missed their targets: power, hashrate, and shipping on their first attempt.  They also provided lackluster support to any of their customers, and in the face of everyone that bought HW, they opened up their own mine to sell power to people at an enormously inflated 'ripoff' price.

Learn from the mistakes of those before you, don't pre-order, and most certainly don't pre-order from Cointerra.

I think what is in red pretty much sums it up! regardless of the company.

[Zelek Uther]

Cointerra contacted me early on to develop a driver for their 28nm offer. However I've heard and know precisely nothing about this new offering.

For newbies not aware: ckolivas is the primary developer of cgminer.

The AIRE product is vapourware at this point, or should I say vapourwAIRE.

[daddyfatsax]

If you are even thinking about pre-ordering any hardware, especially from Cointerra, just send me the coins. I will make much better use of them.

[MellisaBTC]

http://cointerra.com/product/aire-miner-bitcoin-miner/

Please tell me that the community have learned their lesson and will not be pre-ordering these machines.

Learn a lesson? Nah. I am going to pre-order it.

[dogie]

Cointerra contacted me early on to develop a driver for their 28nm offer. However I've heard and know precisely nothing about this new offering.

Pls for the sake of the community and your reputation. Dont work with them ever, they're probably gonna use your name to attract more newbies.

I wouldn't begrudge ckol for doing this. Its how he makes a living and quite simply if he won't work for them they will find someone who will. At least the buyers who get sucked into the preorder will know that 1) the software has a better chance of working and 2) at least someone on the inside has some morals.

[seriouscoin]

Cointerra contacted me early on to develop a driver for their 28nm offer. However I've heard and know precisely nothing about this new offering.

Pls for the sake of the community and your reputation. Dont work with them ever, they're probably gonna use your name to attract more newbies.

I wouldn't begrudge ckol for doing this. Its how he makes a living and quite simply if he won't work for them they will find someone who will. At least the buyers who get sucked into the preorder will know that 1) the software has a better chance of working and 2) at least someone on the inside has some morals.

So because you make a living by being a driver. Its ok for you to be a gateaway driver in a bank robbery?

Stupid, if you work with/for criminals, your reputation is tainted. I'm sure they would use his name to make it sounds more legit. His actual work probably wont benefit any of the "customers"..... or "investors"

[dogie]

Cointerra contacted me early on to develop a driver for their 28nm offer. However I've heard and know precisely nothing about this new offering.

Pls for the sake of the community and your reputation. Dont work with them ever, they're probably gonna use your name to attract more newbies.

I wouldn't begrudge ckol for doing this. Its how he makes a living and quite simply if he won't work for them they will find someone who will. At least the buyers who get sucked into the preorder will know that 1) the software has a better chance of working and 2) at least someone on the inside has some morals.

So because you make a living by being a driver. Its ok for you to be a gateaway driver in a bank robbery?

Stupid, if you work with/for criminals, your reputation is tainted. I'm sure they would use his name to make it sounds more legit. His actual work probably wont benefit any of the "customers"..... or "investors"

He's not doing anything illegal, nor are Cointerra. They're engaging in selling practices we don't morally agree with - that doesn't make it illegal. By the same merit you're also saying if UPS agrees to send their packages that they might as well be smuggling drugs or if BOA processes their payments they might as well be money laundering.

They're not going to use his name for anything, no one outside this subforum even knows what CGMiner or BFGMiner are, nevermind who the developers are.

[Zelek Uther]

Cointerra contacted me early on to develop a driver for their 28nm offer. However I've heard and know precisely nothing about this new offering.

Pls for the sake of the community and your reputation. Dont work with them ever, they're probably gonna use your name to attract more newbies.

I wouldn't begrudge ckol for doing this. Its how he makes a living and quite simply if he won't work for them they will find someone who will. At least the buyers who get sucked into the preorder will know that 1) the software has a better chance of working and 2) at least someone on the inside has some morals.

So because you make a living by being a driver. Its ok for you to be a gateaway driver in a bank robbery?

Stupid, if you work with/for criminals, your reputation is tainted. I'm sure they would use his name to make it sounds more legit. His actual work probably wont benefit any of the "customers"..... or "investors"

He's not doing anything illegal, nor are Cointerra. They're engaging in selling practices we don't morally agree with - that doesn't make it illegal.

Exactly.

There's nothing wrong with developing mining software for every possible platform, regardless of what people may think of a hardware vendor. There shouldn't be any politics in mining software - it is open source software that should simply run on any mining ASIC.

Nobody uses cgminer as a selling point for their hardware... since it runs on any hardware, it isn't a selling point.

[-ck]

We can advise people to not buy hardware but that doesn't stop people doing it having not seen these forums, or being infinitely hopeful/optimistic and ignoring all the people on this forum telling them otherwise. The way I see it, for the people who do preorder/buy this hardware, they will be much better served by having me maintain the driver for them than the manufacturer since no one knows the software as well as I do. Trust me, I don't need the money from driver development. The amount I've made on that front in actual contract paid work has been pitiful, and really the main reason I charge companies is because I object to them running a business potentially to make squillions in profit and then to expect me to maintain the software they depend on for free would be absurd.

It's irrelevant since, as I said, I don't know anything about this hardware nor have I been contacted so I expect they'll probably do it all in house now.

[bitsalame]

HA!

[bcmine]

Just do not Pre-order! At the moment of delivery you are overpaying the GH. 0.3J/GH ist not top of state art. You can still cut it by the half available early next year! Just wait! Dont make Pre-orders! Dont be an investor with under privillage consumer rights[!/font]

[jimrome]

Do not fund these people.

Pre-ordering is trusting someone else with your money.

Don't do it.

Support stable companies like Bitmain and the makers of Dragon Miner. That ship out ASAP.

yeah, no. just no

[Somekindabitcoin]

Why buy that when I can get 9 TH for 3 grand right now?

[Minor Miner]

The only way I would do a "pre" order with Cointerra again is if they pre-deliver and I will send them the coins after I mine them.

[Unacceptable]

The only way I would do a "pre" order with Cointerra again is if they pre-deliver and I will send them the coins after I mine them.

I like your thinking   

"Pay-it-forward Mining"    Gotta nice ring to it!!!!!!!! 

Remember me if you use that folks!!! 

[-ck]

Support stable companies like Bitmain and the makers of Dragon Miner.

Dragon miner blatantly violate the license conditions of the software they whore for their own use without providing source code.

[Operatr]

Wow, the BALLS of these assholes.

I wouldn't touch this scam with a 10 foot pole covered in anthrax and fireants.

[jimrome]

Support stable companies like Bitmain and the makers of Dragon Miner.

Dragon miner blatantly violate the license conditions of the software they whore for their own use without providing source code.

To be honest, Bitmain's record is only marginally better.

[bones]

I pre ordered with them before, and it hurt.  Delivered a little late, under spec, too much power consumed, and no compensation at all.

I swore then I would never give them my money again and I wont.

Be warned, stay away.