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[bitcoinplaza]

I want to share my experience with coinurl.
This platform is a good idea and technically excellent and constantly growing with many useful features to publishers, but lately I'm having some problems with ads revenue, initially in the first two week of service the gains were proportional, probably over my dreams, over the past several days/weeks i have problems with unexplained rejected states (to test some of them i've asked some friends in usa and canada to test for me outside europe with default beaviour, browser no ad block, no proxy, accepting cockies, js enabled, ecc, but rejected ?) and unexplained changing values, i tried to contact their support (btw, really quick, and comprensive response) and some things have been clarified, but others unfortunately not, i'm an honest publisher, never try to scam 1 click, but i know what i'm doing, and don't want to wast my time or work free for others, and i think that if things and not clarified and still remain unexplained i will return to a platform more transparent and respectful of its publisher.
sincerly Bitcoinplaza

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[giantdragon]

I want to share my experience with coinurl.
This platform is a good idea and technically excellent and constantly growing with many useful features to publishers, but lately I'm having some problems with ads revenue, initially in the first two week of service the gains were proportional, probably over my dreams, over the past several days/weeks i have problems with unexplained rejected states (to test some of them i've asked some friends in usa and canada to test for me outside europe with default beaviour, browser no ad block, no proxy, accepting cockies, js enabled, ecc, but rejected ?) and unexplained changing values, i tried to contact their support (btw, really quick, and comprensive response) and some things have been clarified, but others unfortunately not, i'm an honest publisher, never try to scam 1 click, but i know what i'm doing, and don't want to wast my time or work free for others, and i think that if things and not clarified and still remain unexplained i will return to a platform more transparent and respectful of its publisher.
sincerly Bitcoinplaza

For all time you have 1794 clicks registered, 115 were rejected.

As I said before, server-side script automatically checks if the visitor's browser have sent acknowledgement about successful advertisement load in the frame. It may be many reasons why query relating this acknowledgement was not executed, e.g. client closed browser too quickly, my hoster's DB server was down at this time, firewall blocked it or many other that I even cannot know.

But your rejection rate is only 6.8%, I don't understand why to worry! Also I think having negligible share of false-positives is much better than disabling fraud detection script at all and lose all advertisers, because nobody will pay to show their ads to the bots!

[bitcoinplaza]

For all time you have 1794 clicks registered, 115 were rejected.

As I said before, server-side script automatically checks if the visitor's browser have sent acknowledgement about successful advertisement load in the frame. It may be many reasons why query relating this acknowledgement was not executed, e.g. client closed browser too quickly, my hoster's DB server were down in this time, firewall blocked it or many other that I even cannot know.

But your rejection rate is only 6.8%, I don't understand why you worry!

as i wrote if you consider last days reject ratio is over 85%, and i've already abandoned you for twitter there is aroud 99% ! 
if was as you wrote where are my transactions ? 
Anyway bitcoinplaza is just borned, and i've all time to choose right street.
i repeat your is a great service (i'm thinking to clone it  ), need some fine tuning and a little more trasparence, maybe for any other user is perfect.
thanks anyway good job !

[giantdragon]

as i wrote if you consider last days reject ratio is over 85%, and i've already abandoned you for twitter there is aroud 99% !  
if was as you wrote where are my transactions ?  

Do you have other accounts besides "Tino"? If yes, write please usernames.

need some fine tuning and a little more trasparence

What concrete features do you want?

i'm thinking to clone it

Then you will see how really hard is to fight against fraud. If you are unable to solve cheating issue, nobody will advertise.

and don't want to wast my time or work free

BTW, you don't even need to spend time! Just place our javascript code, visitors will see ads and you receive Bitcoins. Also for these type of advertising click rejection rate is significantly lower.

[giantdragon]

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[ingrownpocket]

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[giantdragon]

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[giantdragon]

Can you not delete ads when they're out of funds?
It's very boring to create the same ad all over again and wait for review.

This bug fixed now. For all subsequent ads (including currently active) you will be able to refill a finished ad without waiting repeat review!

[giantdragon]

Visualization of the impressions stats was added. You can view your ad's performance for last hour, day, month(s). Also, with mouse hover on points, you can compare average CPM bids which were set at these periods to select most appropriate price/performance ratio.

An example:

[giantdragon]

I have received many requests asking to providing more transparency about rejected clicks. Link publishers now can see info about a user, who made a click (hostname, referrer, operating system, browser, language). Additionally, information about ad status (if an ad was successfully shown or not) and target link visit (i.e. if "Skip ad" button was shown) available.

An example:



Information about users who viewed an ad also available to the advertisers in the "Impression details" page.

[gbl08ma]

What if an user that clicks on a CoinURL short link is not comfortable with his information being available to the link publisher? Do you comply with any do-not-track standards (i.e. the browser plugins that indicate websites user prefers not to be tracked)?

[giantdragon]

What if an user that clicks on a CoinURL short link is not comfortable with his information being available to the link publisher? Do you comply with any do-not-track standards (i.e. the browser plugins that indicate websites user prefers not to be tracked)?

I do not hand over any data (i.e. IP-address) that can be used to identify person who clicked a link. Info which I have started to provide to the link publishers just gives them more details to understand why some clicks were rejected.

[mcorlett]

I do not hand over any data (i.e. IP-address)

The hostname is directly resolvable to the IP address.

Code:

[milton:~]$ host pc-247-27-44-190.cm.vtr.net
pc-247-27-44-190.cm.vtr.net has address 190.44.27.247

* mcorlett facepalms

[giantdragon]

Ok, I will add "Do not track" flag.

[HostFat]

Do you mean that the user must register before clicking the link to disable the flag?
I think that none want to give personal information ( like IP address / hostname ) to anyone else.


Anyway, can you also add an option to give the advertiser the ability to enable some clicks coming from Tor network if the have some kind of ref?

Example:
I'm an advertiser, I see that clicks coming from sdfhdojghidcohiuehc.onion seems true ( its' a not existent address, it's just random chars ), so I want to enable coinurl to count these kind of clicks instead of nulling them.

you can also add an option to enable clicks coming from any Tor node, it's a choice of the advertiser.

[giantdragon]

Do you mean that the user must register before clicking the link to disable the flag?
I think that none want to give personal information ( like IP address / hostname ) to anyone else.

It is browser-wide option, not concrete service's. The user just says to anyone that he don't want to be tracked.

Anyway, can you also add an option to give the advertiser the ability to enable some clicks coming from Tor network if the have some kind of ref?

Example:
I'm an advertiser, I see that clicks coming from sdfhdojghidcohiuehc.onion seems true ( its' a not existent address, it's just random chars ), so I want to enable coinurl to count these kind of clicks instead of nulling them.

Nice idea! I will consider this.

[gbl08ma]

It is browser-wide option, not concrete service's. The user just says to anyone that he don't want to be tracked.

Not all browsers support that option, and if I recall correctly such things first appeared as browser plugins. And yes, it's the client that specifies, by sending some sort of flag to the server, that it doesn't want to be tracked. I don't know if there's some sort of official standard for it. It's up to the server to respect the flag or not, but I think it's more polite to respect it whenever possible, so it's great you're adding support for it

Some more notes: links which have too many "do not track" clicks can be marked as suspicious, and advertisers can choose not to show their ad to people who don't want to be tracked (even because no-tracking may not comply with the privacy police of their website or ad page).

[giantdragon]

Not all browsers support that option, and if I recall correctly such things first appeared as browser plugins. And yes, it's the client that specifies, by sending some sort of flag to the server, that it doesn't want to be tracked. I don't know if there's some sort of official standard for it. It's up to the server to respect the flag or not, but I think it's more polite to respect it whenever possible, so it's great you're adding support for it

This flag can be easily obtained with following code (tested with Firefox and Chrome "Do Not Track Plus" extension):

Code:

function doNotTrack()
{
	if(isset($_SERVER['HTTP_DNT']) && ($_SERVER['HTTP_DNT'] == 1))
		return true;
	else
		return false;
}

I have enabled "Do Not Track" feature and started to respect also link visitors' privacy. If visitor's browser has this flag enabled, publishers and advertisers will see a message like:



Otherwise, IP and hostname will be available to them.

Some more notes: links which have too many "do not track" clicks can be marked as suspicious, and advertisers can choose not to show their ad to people who don't want to be tracked (even because no-tracking may not comply with the privacy police of their website or ad page).

I think it is obvious that "Do Not Track" flag will be used as one of the parameters in fraud detection script.

Anyway, can you also add an option to give the advertiser the ability to enable some clicks coming from Tor network if the have some kind of ref?

A whitelist for TOR hidden websites enabled. If you have a .onion site where want to place CoinURL links, write me its address and if it is legitimate I will add an exception.

[giantdragon]

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[ingrownpocket]

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