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[thew3apon]

vpncoin is one of the most long running developed coins, it is definately not a scam.

[Macno]

What exactly is the role of VPNCoin in the Bitnet universe? Do you need some to participate?

[heureca]

as I understand it ... It is the currency with which you can dial in through another computer???.... your making a deal, you lend your computer to someone else and getting vpncoin as rent back....please dev make it more transparent to understand...i mean how secure is it for the one how rents his pc ...i mean fact is your let someone totaly unknow to conect to your device and do the thinks he wanna do in the net ??.. ?? .... i feel like im blind lol...dev... please give us some light to see  

[vpncoin]

vpncoin is one of the most long running developed coins, it is definately not a scam.

Thanks.

[vpncoin]

What exactly is the role of VPNCoin in the Bitnet universe? Do you need some to participate?

Vpncoin is BitNet's 1st coin, only VpnCoin can provide VPN service,
And only Vpncoin support BitNet Lottery protocol.

[vpncoin]

as I understand it ... It is the currency with which you can dial in through another computer???.... your making a deal, you lend your computer to someone else and getting vpncoin as rent back....please dev make it more transparent to understand...i mean how secure is it for the one how rents his pc ...i mean fact is your let someone totaly unknow to conect to your device and do the thinks he wanna do in the net ??.. ?? .... i feel like im blind lol...dev... please give us some light to see  

Yes, you're right, this is VPN service.
Anyone can use VPNCOIN wallet connect to VPN network, to hide your real IP.
Or to provide VPN services for others,
However, only windows server os can set as VPN service node.

[heureca]

so do someone need vpncoin for anything as payout ...like... to surf in bitnet anonymus etc... or do you just need it for the telecomunication ?? and in what tearms is it better the lets say tor ??

[Enema]

Chinese Scam crap coin 

Idiot, just do some reading and you will see how much work the VPN team has put in this project.
Oh crap, let me guess, you can't handle all the postings since you lack brain cells...  

[vpncoin]

so do someone need vpncoin for anything as payout ...like... to surf in bitnet anonymus etc... or do you just need it for the telecomunication ?? and in what tearms is it better the lets say tor ??

Yes.
TOR for chinese people is nothing, bcz our gov banned TOR, we can't use it.
But VPN is ok. 

[Macno]

Apparently VPN is being attacked by the gov as well:

"Circumventing the Great Firewall is fairly easy. Instead of using Tor, which directs a user’s traffic through three random points around the world in order to shield their identity, a VPN, which only routes their traffic through one “hop,” is sufficient to access websites that are banned in China. Many of these VPNs are free and are often faster than browsing via the Tor network, as well as being much easier to use.
But recently, China’s censors have been clamping down on popular VPN services. In January, the government upgraded t​he Firewall, blocking the use of Astrill, StrongVPN, and Golden Frog, according to ​a BBC report. The South Chin​a Morning Post suggested that, more broadly, this recent escalation in censorship could be "China's most severe crackdown in decades on how people learn about the world around them, talk to each other and do business.”

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/what-firewall-chinas-fledgling-deep-web-community

[Enema]

so do someone need vpncoin for anything as payout ...like... to surf in bitnet anonymus etc... or do you just need it for the telecomunication ?? and in what tearms is it better the lets say tor ??

Yes.
TOR for chinese people is nothing, bcz our gov banned TOR, we can't use it.
But VPN is ok. 

@vpncoin
Is not every software that avoids censorship illegal in China ?

[vpncoin]

Apparently VPN is being attacked by the gov as well:

"Circumventing the Great Firewall is fairly easy. Instead of using Tor, which directs a user’s traffic through three random points around the world in order to shield their identity, a VPN, which only routes their traffic through one “hop,” is sufficient to access websites that are banned in China. Many of these VPNs are free and are often faster than browsing via the Tor network, as well as being much easier to use.
But recently, China’s censors have been clamping down on popular VPN services. In January, the government upgraded t​he Firewall, blocking the use of Astrill, StrongVPN, and Golden Frog, according to ​a BBC report. The South Chin​a Morning Post suggested that, more broadly, this recent escalation in censorship could be "China's most severe crackdown in decades on how people learn about the world around them, talk to each other and do business.”

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/what-firewall-chinas-fledgling-deep-web-community

Our gov banned some overseas VPN service providers.

[vpncoin]

so do someone need vpncoin for anything as payout ...like... to surf in bitnet anonymus etc... or do you just need it for the telecomunication ?? and in what tearms is it better the lets say tor ??

Yes.
TOR for chinese people is nothing, bcz our gov banned TOR, we can't use it.
But VPN is ok. 

@vpncoin
Is not every software that avoids censorship illegal in China ?

360, baidu, kingsoft's anti virus app help people to censorship every software.
Gov not care about your software,  provided that you do not distribute illegal remarks.

[Enema]

so do someone need vpncoin for anything as payout ...like... to surf in bitnet anonymus etc... or do you just need it for the telecomunication ?? and in what tearms is it better the lets say tor ??

Yes.
TOR for chinese people is nothing, bcz our gov banned TOR, we can't use it.
But VPN is ok. 

@vpncoin
Is not every software that avoids censorship illegal in China ?

360, baidu, kingsoft's anti virus app help people to censorship every software.
Gov not care about your software,  provided that you do not distribute illegal remarks.

Thanks for explaining.
So besides from TOR any software can be used as long as remarks or comments are not illegal.
Maybe TOR is illegal because more difficult to monitor compared to other software ?
In other words software that can be monitored is ok, software that can not be monitored is illegal.
That can be confusing, but if I understand the problems correct everybody that is using special software is suspect and can get trouble with the law.
Would not surprise me that using VPN is already enough to be monitored.
Anyway thumbs up for doing a great job and taking a lot of risk in doing so !
To bad I am new and missed out on the distro.

Respect and good luck, well deserved !

[Macno]

How many users do you already have that use the VPN service and what returns do they generate?
I read in that articles about China that there a free VPN services there?
What is the price model for using the VPN? Does it depend upon the VPN/BTC rate?  

[heureca]

How many users do you already have that use the VPN service and what returns do they generate?
I read in that articles about China that there a free VPN services there?
What is the price model for using the VPN? Does it depend upon the VPN/BTC rate?  

The setup, of how many coins the service will cost per minute, is the personal decision  of the one how offers the service
Everybody can offer VPN service though the wallet so its a open competition ...(open market)

[vpncoin]

so do someone need vpncoin for anything as payout ...like... to surf in bitnet anonymus etc... or do you just need it for the telecomunication ?? and in what tearms is it better the lets say tor ??

Yes.
TOR for chinese people is nothing, bcz our gov banned TOR, we can't use it.
But VPN is ok. 

@vpncoin
Is not every software that avoids censorship illegal in China ?

360, baidu, kingsoft's anti virus app help people to censorship every software.
Gov not care about your software,  provided that you do not distribute illegal remarks.

Thanks for explaining.
So besides from TOR any software can be used as long as remarks or comments are not illegal.
Maybe TOR is illegal because more difficult to monitor compared to other software ?
In other words software that can be monitored is ok, software that can not be monitored is illegal.
That can be confusing, but if I understand the problems correct everybody that is using special software is suspect and can get trouble with the law.
Would not surprise me that using VPN is already enough to be monitored.
Anyway thumbs up for doing a great job and taking a lot of risk in doing so !
To bad I am new and missed out on the distro.

Respect and good luck, well deserved !

Thanks.

TOR is illegal in China, and people can not be used.
I can let people use TOR, but there is a very high risk,
So I did not import TOR.

[Macno]

How many users do you already have that use the VPN service and what returns do they generate?
I read in that articles about China that there a free VPN services there?
What is the price model for using the VPN? Does it depend upon the VPN/BTC rate?  

The setup, of how many coins the service will cost per minute, is the personal decision  of the one how offers the service
Everybody can offer VPN service though the wallet so its a open competition ...(open market)

Ok, thank you!

So that`s about the only usecase for VPNcoins? I need them to buy a service which seems to also be offered for free in China?
Currently trying to assess the investment case for VPN and still do not quite get the USP.

[heureca]

How many users do you already have that use the VPN service and what returns do they generate?
I read in that articles about China that there a free VPN services there?
What is the price model for using the VPN? Does it depend upon the VPN/BTC rate?  

The setup, of how many coins the service will cost per minute, is the personal decision  of the one how offers the service
Everybody can offer VPN service though the wallet so its a open competition ...(open market)

Ok, thank you!

So that`s about the only usecase for VPNcoins? I need them to buy a service which seems to also be offered for free in China?
Currently trying to assess the investment case for VPN and still do not quite get the USP.

...can you make encrypted video calls with this services ??or build up a webside/domain?

[Macno]

How many users do you already have that use the VPN service and what returns do they generate?
I read in that articles about China that there a free VPN services there?
What is the price model for using the VPN? Does it depend upon the VPN/BTC rate?  

The setup, of how many coins the service will cost per minute, is the personal decision  of the one how offers the service
Everybody can offer VPN service though the wallet so its a open competition ...(open market)

Ok, thank you!

So that`s about the only usecase for VPNcoins? I need them to buy a service which seems to also be offered for free in China?
Currently trying to assess the investment case for VPN and still do not quite get the USP.

...can you make encrypted video calls with this services ??or build up a webside/domain?

So you are saying you can with Bitnet and you pay it with VPNCoin? Great then! Don`t get me wrong, I am trying to find the PROs, not to belittle the coin.