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October 17, 2014, 08:03:21 PM
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if it stops on 20100,  up to 20220 should be shown on the explorer as big ones right?

I think it actually stops at 20180. I was off by 80 blocks.

oh... nice. . . I should hit

so then on the explorer showing up to 20300 will be payed big?  (since 20180 + 120 = 20300

I already hit once since I thought growth was over LOL.

I haven't figured out how to read the "value out" column. I've been assuming that it's the amount that went up for staking plus the stake reward for each block, but I don't know this for a fact. But I think the payout would be indicated on the block where it happens, not the block where it gets confirmed 120 times.

I just checked, and you are indeed correct Smiley

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October 17, 2014, 08:03:32 PM
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if it stops on 20100,  up to 20220 should be shown on the explorer as big ones right?

I think it actually stops at 20180. I was off by 80 blocks.

oh... nice. . . I should hit

so then on the explorer showing up to 20300 will be payed big?  (since 20180 + 120 = 20300

I already hit once since I thought growth was over LOL.

I haven't figured out how to read the "value out" column. I've been assuming that it's the amount that went up for staking plus the stake reward for each block, but I don't know this for a fact. But I think the payout would be indicated on the block where it happens, not the block where it gets confirmed 120 times.

correct afaik
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October 17, 2014, 08:12:10 PM
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wtf block 20146

so jelly. >.<
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October 17, 2014, 08:13:00 PM
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Looks like the #1 wallet will have about 735k coins, he has 2 stakes left.
Thats why people feel like its was wrong or rigged,
I put the same amount of investment in as the top player 10 seeds.
I got 15k he got 735k, see anything wrong here?
Yes i did change all the wallets along the messy way etc
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October 17, 2014, 08:21:25 PM
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Looks like the #1 wallet will have about 735k coins, he has 2 stakes left.
Thats why people feel like its was wrong or rigged,
I put the same amount of investment in as the top player 10 seeds.
I got 15k he got 735k, see anything wrong here?
Yes i did change all the wallets along the messy way etc

I think the top wallet took advantage of a feature where if you don't stake for a while your weight accumulates and accumulates so when you do, then you get even more coin than the straight 1% or 269%. This wallet figured it out and kept it locked during the entire mining period where staking rewards were set at one percent a year. Then he unlocked his wallet right as growth period began and got a very large first stake, which of course led to the rest of the stakes being large.

I didn't know about this feature so I staked right through the initial 1% period and had much less weight going into growth. I'm guessing the same for you. But apparently it was right there and anyone who could spot it could benefit from it.

So... not fair? perhaps. But not rigged either, in the sense that taking advantage was open to anyone. Just not all of us had the knowledge or experience to spot it. You better believe that next time I will Wink

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October 17, 2014, 08:21:59 PM
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Looks like the #1 wallet will have about 735k coins, he has 2 stakes left.
Thats why people feel like its was wrong or rigged,
I put the same amount of investment in as the top player 10 seeds.
I got 15k he got 735k, see anything wrong here?
Yes i did change all the wallets along the messy way etc

Thats because you let your coins get split into a bunch of chunks and they didnt carry enough weight to stake as often.  About as simple as that.

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October 17, 2014, 08:23:24 PM
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Looks like the #1 wallet will have about 735k coins, he has 2 stakes left.
Thats why people feel like its was wrong or rigged,
I put the same amount of investment in as the top player 10 seeds.
I got 15k he got 735k, see anything wrong here?
Yes i did change all the wallets along the messy way etc

I think the top wallet took advantage of a feature where if you don't stake for a while your weight accumulates and accumulates so when you do, then you get even more coin than the straight 1% or 269%. This wallet figured it out and kept it locked during the entire mining period where staking rewards were set at one percent a year. Then he unlocked his wallet right as growth period began and got a very large first stake, which of course led to the rest of the stakes being large.

I didn't know about this feature so I staked right through the initial 1% period and had much less weight going into growth. I'm guessing the same for you. But apparently it was right there and anyone who could spot it could benefit from it.

So... not fair? perhaps. But not rigged either, in the sense that taking advantage was open to anyone. Just not all of us had the brains to spot it. You better believe that next time I will Wink

What was more important was keeping your chunks in a couple big chunks rather than letting them get split a bunch of times... I regrouped my seed into 1 big chunk three times DURING growth

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October 17, 2014, 08:27:13 PM
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Looks like the #1 wallet will have about 735k coins, he has 2 stakes left.
Thats why people feel like its was wrong or rigged,
I put the same amount of investment in as the top player 10 seeds.
I got 15k he got 735k, see anything wrong here?
Yes i did change all the wallets along the messy way etc

I think the top wallet took advantage of a feature where if you don't stake for a while your weight accumulates and accumulates so when you do, then you get even more coin than the straight 1% or 269%. This wallet figured it out and kept it locked during the entire mining period where staking rewards were set at one percent a year. Then he unlocked his wallet right as growth period began and got a very large first stake, which of course led to the rest of the stakes being large.

I didn't know about this feature so I staked right through the initial 1% period and had much less weight going into growth. I'm guessing the same for you. But apparently it was right there and anyone who could spot it could benefit from it.

So... not fair? perhaps. But not rigged either, in the sense that taking advantage was open to anyone. Just not all of us had the brains to spot it. You better believe that next time I will Wink

What was more important was keeping your chunks in a couple big chunks rather than letting them get split a bunch of times... I regrouped my seed into 1 big chunk three times DURING growth

I only did that once during growth, but also once right before growth. I was too afraid of losing valuable time to do it anymore. I'm glad it worked out for you.

Do you suppose it would be just as advantageous to regularly regroup chunks during the next phase where staking gets you 16% a year? How often?

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October 17, 2014, 08:31:23 PM
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Only eleven blocks to go...

It's still block 20180 where growth ends, right?

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October 17, 2014, 08:36:54 PM
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While it's all happening, I encourage everyone to remember that every difficulty that you will encounter, everyone else will be encounter as well. There's a lot of strategies one can use to maximize your portion of seedcoins compared to everyone else's, and I encourage you to do your research on how the staking process works and really take the time to think about how to maximize your chances of success. Staking in SeedCoin, from a practical standpoint, is no different from any other coin, and growth is ultimately just a very accelerated staking process.

If you have any questions that you'd like answered and kept private, please feel free to PM me in confidence. I wont share your thoughts with anyone else, and I will answer every question as honestly as I possibly can.

So with all that said, lets grow some seeds:D



tl;dr I will bring value to SeedCoin. I encourage anyone that wants to to help. Thank you everyone for everything. And you might want to consider reading this particular long block of text:)

This is where I figured out there was a trick to be had.  It was kinda hard to dig up so im sure alot of people missed it... For that you can thank barbie for spamming his fud.

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October 17, 2014, 08:38:17 PM
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Looks like the #1 wallet will have about 735k coins, he has 2 stakes left.
Thats why people feel like its was wrong or rigged,
I put the same amount of investment in as the top player 10 seeds.
I got 15k he got 735k, see anything wrong here?
Yes i did change all the wallets along the messy way etc

I think the top wallet took advantage of a feature where if you don't stake for a while your weight accumulates and accumulates so when you do, then you get even more coin than the straight 1% or 269%. This wallet figured it out and kept it locked during the entire mining period where staking rewards were set at one percent a year. Then he unlocked his wallet right as growth period began and got a very large first stake, which of course led to the rest of the stakes being large.

I didn't know about this feature so I staked right through the initial 1% period and had much less weight going into growth. I'm guessing the same for you. But apparently it was right there and anyone who could spot it could benefit from it.

So... not fair? perhaps. But not rigged either, in the sense that taking advantage was open to anyone. Just not all of us had the brains to spot it. You better believe that next time I will Wink

What was more important was keeping your chunks in a couple big chunks rather than letting them get split a bunch of times... I regrouped my seed into 1 big chunk three times DURING growth

I only did that once during growth, but also once right before growth. I was too afraid of losing valuable time to do it anymore. I'm glad it worked out for you.

Do you suppose it would be just as advantageous to regularly regroup chunks during the next phase where staking gets you 16% a year? How often?

no, not very often as the smaller chunks have MUCH more time to build weight up.  When all the small ones eventually stake they are worth just as much.  But we have been dealing with a tight time period where everyone was competing for blocks.

as for it working out for me, couldnt have turned out better. I got my last stake in just in time Wink

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October 17, 2014, 08:38:43 PM
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Only eleven blocks to go...

It's still block 20180 where growth ends, right?

According to the OP...

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October 17, 2014, 08:41:53 PM
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OK, so my original belief was correct. I wonder where 20180 came from then? I'm pretty sure I staked at 269 percent after 20101.

Oh well, we're at 20177 so in three blocks it won't matter..

Only eleven blocks to go...

It's still block 20180 where growth ends, right?

According to the OP...



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October 17, 2014, 08:41:56 PM
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Looks like the #1 wallet will have about 735k coins, he has 2 stakes left.
Thats why people feel like its was wrong or rigged,
I put the same amount of investment in as the top player 10 seeds.
I got 15k he got 735k, see anything wrong here?
Yes i did change all the wallets along the messy way etc

I think the top wallet took advantage of a feature where if you don't stake for a while your weight accumulates and accumulates so when you do, then you get even more coin than the straight 1% or 269%. This wallet figured it out and kept it locked during the entire mining period where staking rewards were set at one percent a year. Then he unlocked his wallet right as growth period began and got a very large first stake, which of course led to the rest of the stakes being large.

I didn't know about this feature so I staked right through the initial 1% period and had much less weight going into growth. I'm guessing the same for you. But apparently it was right there and anyone who could spot it could benefit from it.

So... not fair? perhaps. But not rigged either, in the sense that taking advantage was open to anyone. Just not all of us had the brains to spot it. You better believe that next time I will Wink

What was more important was keeping your chunks in a couple big chunks rather than letting them get split a bunch of times... I regrouped my seed into 1 big chunk three times DURING growth

I only did that once during growth, but also once right before growth. I was too afraid of losing valuable time to do it anymore. I'm glad it worked out for you.

Do you suppose it would be just as advantageous to regularly regroup chunks during the next phase where staking gets you 16% a year? How often?

The maximum stake age is 7 days, so if you get such a small coin stack that it doesn't stake within that 7 days (then no longer accrues age and additional waiting time is wasted), then yes, it is worth it to re-combine. If it does stake, but say, only every 4 days instead of 1; then you would lose out on the compound nature by 3/4, but you would still get credit for the 4 days of coin age.
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October 17, 2014, 08:43:19 PM
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OK, so my original belief was correct. I wonder where 20180 came from then? I'm pretty sure I staked at 269 percent after 20101.

Oh well, we're at 20177 so in three blocks it won't matter..

Only eleven blocks to go...

It's still block 20180 where growth ends, right?

According to the OP...



I'm pretty sure at one point cryptzo said it was a true 7 days (7x 1440) back when we were talking about what if people lose that last stake since 20100 would cut it short.
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October 17, 2014, 08:45:18 PM
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October 17, 2014, 08:45:32 PM
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Block 20180. Done.

Thanks for playing. Don't forget your door prizes on the way out.

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October 17, 2014, 08:46:42 PM
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looks like sYeFQM3HJDgdhrVQJN1bD9NvGAcjyjYS5U got the last stake in. 20181 reward was only 0.11 seed.
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October 17, 2014, 08:47:51 PM
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growth over with little less than 3m coin supply.

p.s. mine missed last two stakes. f*** me.
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October 17, 2014, 08:52:54 PM
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1.5 > 5046.8332866 , how'd everyone else do?

and it would appear that smaller chunks combine under certain circumstances!

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