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October 14, 2014, 11:41:11 PM
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I not sure the DEV has any real ideas on how to promote or make this worth more than 1 cent after the growth, but i would say the only real way looking at the current market would be to see if a deal can be done with a WEED seed bank to put up the seeds some worth, the whole POT thing is going great guns on other coins right now and they are backing them with dope, so if seed could do the same our investments that now are 1 btc now = 1 cent would turn around very fast into real money, as the biggest problem other coins like cann and dope have is that they have to many coins in the market, so what about and how would we get 1 seed to = one real life dope seed, i know for fast real dope seeds are dirt cheap almost free on some sites, other sites charge huge dollars for them.

Ok so if anyone want any money back or even profit i see this as the only way to go, so maybe we should contact some of the free seed banks around the world and see if they would be interested on coming in and even using seed as a payment method.

So lets hold back the FUD for a few days and work out how to do this as it could really turn this around in 1 week, and again dope seeds are crazy cheap, we just need it done right first time, so any ideas and info on how to pull this off would be good, we can spend 5 minutes shooting off a few emails to seed banks, especially the free ones that only charge postage.

I think we really need the dev on this and to come up with some useful help as its his baby not ours, so first up what does the dev think?

If we sort this now we will have at least some news to spread and maybe we could even aline with cann, mj and other coins as they have massive forums and they are cross promotion on each others forums as we speak.

So lets use our brain for 10 minutes and come up with a real plan, i can FUD like the rest when i have the shits but the time wasted Fuding could be used to make this something that will work.

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October 14, 2014, 11:44:01 PM
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I not sure the DEV has any real ideas on how to promote or make this worth more than 1 cent after the growth, but i would say the only real way looking at the current market would be to see if a deal can be done with a WEED seed bank to put up the seeds some worth, the whole POT thing is going great guns on other coins right now and they are backing them with dope, so if seed could do the same our investments that now are 1 btc now = 1 cent would turn around very fast into real money, as the biggest problem other coins like cann and dope have is that they have to many coins in the market, so what about and how would we get 1 seed to = one real life dope seed, i know for fast real dope seeds are dirt cheap almost free on some sites, other sites charge huge dollars for them.

Ok so if anyone want any money back or even profit i see this as the only way to go, so maybe we should contact some of the free seed banks around the world and see if they would be interested on coming in and even using seed as a payment method.

So lets hold back the FUD for a few days and work out how to do this as it could really turn this around in 1 week, and again dope seeds are crazy cheap, we just need it done right first time, so any ideas and info on how to pull this off would be good, we can spend 5 minutes shooting off a few emails to seed banks, especially the free ones that only charge postage.

I think we really need the dev on this and to come up with some useful help as its his baby not ours, so first up what does the dev think?

If we sort this now we will have at least some news to spread and maybe we could even aline with cann, mj and other coins as they have massive forums and they are cross promotion on each others forums as we speak.

So lets use our brain for 10 minutes and come up with a real plan, i can FUD like the rest when i have the shits but the time wasted Fuding could be used to make this something that will work.

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So in short i think we need to back SEED with real dope seeds!
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October 14, 2014, 11:48:18 PM
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People go back and re read the whole ANN the OP posted on page 1 so far everything that has happened with this coin is posted there for you to read before you get involved.. These fudders coming in here all negative and hateful are really people that probably dumped a huge amount of investment coin into this project, but now they are realizing wow.. this isn't going as "I" planned.. LOL .. anybody listening to those 2 trolls are really really naïve and not too bright. If you cant comprehend what you read, stay out of crypto.  Things are never how they appear. BTw , I mine coins nothing more.

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October 15, 2014, 12:08:55 AM
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People go back and re read the whole ANN the OP posted on page 1 so far everything that has happened with this coin is posted there for you to read before you get involved.. These fudders coming in here all negative and hateful are really people that probably dumped a huge amount of investment coin into this project, but now they are realizing wow.. this isn't going as "I" planned.. LOL .. anybody listening to those 2 trolls are really really naïve and not too bright. If you cant comprehend what you read, stay out of crypto.  Things are never how they appear. BTw , I mine coins nothing more.

+1

Anyone that FUDS a coin for 110+ pages has to have an ulterior motive. Or is a bit simple in their way of life. I expect an ulterior motive though.

I've given up on trying to equalise the FUD and now trying to actively look at solutions Smiley

Beefie - I love your enthusiasm for cross promotion but if the Dev gets involved in anything pot related I will categorically dump all my coins for the first offer. It's not something I can follow in for the future of this coin. Not saying it's not an option, and if it works then great - but I'm out :/ And I don't want to be out Tongue

(I have a bad history with pot. I'm like the anti-pot police lol)

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October 15, 2014, 12:19:51 AM
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People go back and re read the whole ANN the OP posted on page 1 so far everything that has happened with this coin is posted there for you to read before you get involved.. These fudders coming in here all negative and hateful are really people that probably dumped a huge amount of investment coin into this project, but now they are realizing wow.. this isn't going as "I" planned.. LOL .. anybody listening to those 2 trolls are really really naïve and not too bright. If you cant comprehend what you read, stay out of crypto.  Things are never how they appear. BTw , I mine coins nothing more.

+1

Anyone that FUDS a coin for 110+ pages has to have an ulterior motive. Or is a bit simple in their way of life. I expect an ulterior motive though.

I've given up on trying to equalise the FUD and now trying to actively look at solutions Smiley

Beefie - I love your enthusiasm for cross promotion but if the Dev gets involved in anything pot related I will categorically dump all my coins for the first offer. It's not something I can follow in for the future of this coin. Not saying it's not an option, and if it works then great - but I'm out :/ And I don't want to be out Tongue

(I have a bad history with pot. I'm like the anti-pot police lol)

Yep i get what your saying but money if funny like that, example cancer council has shares in big tobbacco, as it makes them money etc, there are 1000 examples of things like this.

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October 15, 2014, 12:57:30 AM
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wow - so sad - coin value plummeting - market cap plummeting with every new seed staked - stop the bleeding!!! or I mean staking. what good is a bunch of worthless coins!

from a high of .135 down to .004 - so sad...
it was high of 0.355 not 0.135 down to 0.00025000 get it right

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October 15, 2014, 01:17:20 AM
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wow - so sad - coin value plummeting - market cap plummeting with every new seed staked - stop the bleeding!!! or I mean staking. what good is a bunch of worthless coins!

from a high of .135 down to .004 - so sad...
it was high of 0.355 not 0.135 down to 0.00025000 get it right

The high was actually 10 btc, because that clearly is the best way to value this coin, and completely ignore the entire distribution process and how it works.
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October 15, 2014, 01:19:05 AM
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from 1000 coins to ~10M coins in 7 days

really, what were you expecting from the price? it would stay the same at ICO price of 0.1 or even a hopeful price of half of this??   Roll Eyes

coin suply increased by a factor of millions in days,  what will happen to price?   Wink

 

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October 15, 2014, 01:19:46 AM
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People go back and re read the whole ANN the OP posted on page 1 so far everything that has happened with this coin is posted there for you to read before you get involved.. These fudders coming in here all negative and hateful are really people that probably dumped a huge amount of investment coin into this project, but now they are realizing wow.. this isn't going as "I" planned.. LOL .. anybody listening to those 2 trolls are really really naïve and not too bright. If you cant comprehend what you read, stay out of crypto.  Things are never how they appear. BTw , I mine coins nothing more.

+1

Anyone that FUDS a coin for 110+ pages has to have an ulterior motive. Or is a bit simple in their way of life. I expect an ulterior motive though.

I've given up on trying to equalise the FUD and now trying to actively look at solutions Smiley

Beefie - I love your enthusiasm for cross promotion but if the Dev gets involved in anything pot related I will categorically dump all my coins for the first offer. It's not something I can follow in for the future of this coin. Not saying it's not an option, and if it works then great - but I'm out :/ And I don't want to be out Tongue

(I have a bad history with pot. I'm like the anti-pot police lol)

And Im the pro-pot police. Anything you can blame on cannabis I can argue logically. There is nothing wrong with weed. especially when you consider alcohol's legality. As far as seeds, any "free seedbank" is trash. Mr Nice ftw.  I had a buddie that grew some black widow (OG white widow) a while back that ppl swore was laced Wink

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October 15, 2014, 01:37:55 AM
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projected SEED growth with 1000 SEED at start of growth period
block 11540 - end of day 1 - 3,690 SEED
block 12980 - end of day 2 - 13,616.1 SEED
block 14420 - end of day 3 - 50,243.40 SEED
block 15860 - end of day 4 - 185,398.17 SEED
block 17300 - end of day 5 - 684,119.28 SEED
block 18740 - end of day 6 - 2,524,400.14 SEED
block 20100 - end of day 7 - 9,315,036.54 SEED


actual SEED growth
block 11540 - end of day 1 - 2014-10-12 00:23:26 - 3,438.48 SEED
block 12980 - end of day 2 - 2014-10-13 00:21:05 - 12,038.67 SEED
block 14420 - end of day 3 - 2014-10-13 23:57:53 - 36,695.71 SEED
block 15860 - end of day 4 - 2014-10-14 23:24:23 - 107,983.38 SEED
block 17300 - end of day 5 - 2014-10-15 22:34:19 - 326,300.57 SEED
block 18740 - end of day 6 - 2014-10-16
block 20100 - end of day 7 - 2014-10-17

* i will continue to update after end of each growth day

** new maximum potential coin supply at end of 7th growth day based on current 326,300.57 = 4,442,941.19 SEED

to align your price expectations:
if target marketcap is 100 BTC (~$40,000) with 4,442,941.19 coin supply, price would be 0.00002250 / SEED

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October 15, 2014, 01:41:00 AM
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from 1000 coins to ~10M coins in 7 days

really, what were you expecting from the price? it would stay the same at ICO price of 0.1 or even a hopeful price of half of this??   Roll Eyes

coin suply increased by a factor of milliions in days,  what will happen to price?   Wink

 

the only ones to blame for the price crashing is all you jack a legs that are dumping your coins and not buying no coins so you out there doing this it is your fault 110%

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October 15, 2014, 01:43:14 AM
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projected SEED growth with 1000 SEED at start of growth period
block 11540 - end of day 1 - 3,690 SEED
block 12980 - end of day 2 - 13,616.1 SEED
block 14420 - end of day 3 - 50,243.40 SEED
block 15860 - end of day 4 - 185,398.17 SEED
block 17300 - end of day 5 - 684,119.28 SEED
block 18740 - end of day 6 - 2,524,400.14 SEED
block 20100 - end of day 7 - 9,315,036.54 SEED


actual SEED growth
block 11540 - end of day 1 - 2014-10-12 00:23:26 - 3,438.48 SEED
block 12980 - end of day 2 - 2014-10-13 00:21:05 - 12,038.67 SEED
block 14420 - end of day 3 - 2014-10-13 23:57:53 - 36,695.71 SEED
block 15860 - end of day 4 - 2014-10-14 23:24:23 - 107,983.38 SEED
block 17300 - end of day 5 - 2014-10-15
block 18740 - end of day 6 - 2014-10-16
block 20100 - end of day 7 - 2014-10-17

* i will continue to update after end of each growth day

** new maximum potential coin supply at end of 7th growth day based on current 107k = 5,425,453.12 SEED

to align your price expectations:
if target marketcap is 100 BTC (~$40,000) with ~5M coin supply, price would be 0.00001843 btc / SEED
yeah that is all goes to the coin hoarders that dump to ruin the price for the rest of us oh yeah worthless

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October 15, 2014, 01:53:36 AM
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projected SEED growth with 1000 SEED at start of growth period
block 11540 - end of day 1 - 3,690 SEED
block 12980 - end of day 2 - 13,616.1 SEED
block 14420 - end of day 3 - 50,243.40 SEED
block 15860 - end of day 4 - 185,398.17 SEED
block 17300 - end of day 5 - 684,119.28 SEED
block 18740 - end of day 6 - 2,524,400.14 SEED
block 20100 - end of day 7 - 9,315,036.54 SEED


actual SEED growth
block 11540 - end of day 1 - 2014-10-12 00:23:26 - 3,438.48 SEED
block 12980 - end of day 2 - 2014-10-13 00:21:05 - 12,038.67 SEED
block 14420 - end of day 3 - 2014-10-13 23:57:53 - 36,695.71 SEED
block 15860 - end of day 4 - 2014-10-14 23:24:23 - 107,983.38 SEED
block 17300 - end of day 5 - 2014-10-15
block 18740 - end of day 6 - 2014-10-16
block 20100 - end of day 7 - 2014-10-17

* i will continue to update after end of each growth day

** new maximum potential coin supply at end of 7th growth day based on current 107k = 5,425,453.12 SEED

to align your price expectations:
if target marketcap is 100 BTC (~$40,000) with ~5M coin supply, price would be 0.00001843 btc / SEED
yeah that is all goes to the coin hoarders that dump to ruin the price for the rest of us oh yeah worthless
because the hoarders of this coin get all the rewards everyday as it has been since day one not a fair coin at all it will be a dead coin in 2 weeks anyways so like it matters cause between the person running this coin in the ground and the people dumping this coin sense day one running it the ground too good luck though

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October 15, 2014, 01:54:06 AM
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yeah that is all goes to the coin hoarders that dump to ruin the price for the rest of us oh yeah worthless

actually, these dumpers might even be helping SEED in the long run

because these SEED are transferred to exchange, bought in exchange and transferred back to new wallet owner and take 24 hrs again to stake
all those time, those SEED are not staking which will result in much less inflation by end of growth period

though all that wont really matter, by the end of the growth period SEED will be just like any Proof-of-Stake coin
unless Dev has further plans

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October 15, 2014, 02:01:26 AM
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I have been in contact with someone I know here in Florida. They run a nursery and specialize in exotic plants, chemicals, botanicals, ect. They sell everything from pepper plants/seeds, to cactus, fruits, veggies, rare plants, carnivorous plants, he even sells antibiotics (for fish and animals only). He has a website and is pretty well known in my area as the Plant Man. Anyway, I was there checking some stuff out today and just for the heck of it I mentioned seedcoin. My friend is familiar with bitcoin but not so much altcoins. He said he was interested in maybe accepting seedcoin. He is supposed to check it out and get back to me. It is a very small shop and website but it could be a start for seedcoin buying goods. He did have a couple concerns but I will bring those up if the time comes.

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October 15, 2014, 02:02:32 AM
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yeah that is all goes to the coin hoarders that dump to ruin the price for the rest of us oh yeah worthless

actually, these dumpers might even be helping SEED in the long run

because these SEED are transferred to exchange, bought in exchange and transferred back to new wallet owner and take 24 hrs again to stake
all those time, those SEED are not staking which will result in much less inflation by end of growth period

though all that wont really matter, by the end of the growth period SEED will be just like any Proof-of-Stake coin
unless Dev has further plans
that is according to you that knows nothing too

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October 15, 2014, 02:11:08 AM
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LOL
I've been everywhere on the rich list, depending on the time of day. At block 10,000 on the rich list,I was at 34, been as high as 12, and as low as 84. This is effin hillarious, it's like musical chairs. It's gonna be chaos, Where it stops, nobody knows Grin

This was like a lottery from the start. I lost a full day stake on 1/3 of my coins due to the first fork, which blew a hole in my original plan. However, barring the multiple forks, this is how it should have been, price all over the place.  The dev has chimed in with some interesting thoughts and plans for the future, so that's more than alot of crap people mine for nowadays.  

It's been a while without a fork Cheesy, and I'm starting to have a good time with this one.

Hope nobody invested more than they could afford to lose, this one was gamble from the start Tongue. Staking strategy will be key for these last days. Cool

As far as the larger wallets go, it's not much different than a whale catching cheap coins at the bottom, at least you can watch these ones.


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October 15, 2014, 02:53:32 AM
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People go back and re read the whole ANN the OP posted on page 1 so far everything that has happened with this coin is posted there for you to read before you get involved.. These fudders coming in here all negative and hateful are really people that probably dumped a huge amount of investment coin into this project, but now they are realizing wow.. this isn't going as "I" planned.. LOL .. anybody listening to those 2 trolls are really really naïve and not too bright. If you cant comprehend what you read, stay out of crypto.  Things are never how they appear. BTw , I mine coins nothing more.

+1

Anyone that FUDS a coin for 110+ pages has to have an ulterior motive. Or is a bit simple in their way of life. I expect an ulterior motive though.

I've given up on trying to equalise the FUD and now trying to actively look at solutions Smiley

Beefie - I love your enthusiasm for cross promotion but if the Dev gets involved in anything pot related I will categorically dump all my coins for the first offer. It's not something I can follow in for the future of this coin. Not saying it's not an option, and if it works then great - but I'm out :/ And I don't want to be out Tongue

(I have a bad history with pot. I'm like the anti-pot police lol)

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I have NO interest in tying this coin to pot. I have no judgment on those who in any way are involved with actual pot. It's just not something I have any interest in getting involved with myself.
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October 15, 2014, 03:35:14 AM
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The amount of FUD on this thread is getting ridiculous.

My observation is that the FUD is coming from people who lost staking time due to forks, etc. and won't have their wallet as full as their initial calculations indicate. Then they are looking at the current BitTrex price which is literally all over the place. Then they're whining about how much money they supposedly lost.

They're saying the coin was rigged from the start, and that only the "insiders" who knew about the "conspiracy" are profiting. Seriously?

It's true that in order to have survived the first few days of growth staking you needed to pay close attention to this thread and update your wallet accordingly. There were a number of strategies openly discussed right here, and each individual pretty much had to pick a plan and stick with it as you couldn't really run all the strategies simultaneously.

For the most part, though, you just let your coins stake and they do. It's working just fine, other than the fact that staking rewards are starting to drag out making me wonder if all my coins will stake that magical 7th time. But even with that a strategy to mitigate that was suggested and people are free to follow it or not as they choose.

Technical difficulties happen. I know they haven't affected everyone equally, but it has been possible for people to update their wallets and get them staking properly. I'm not that technically oriented and I was able to do it just fine. However I also came with a fair amount of experience from having gone through a ton of wallet updates in a short time on a different coin. I made all kinds of mistakes on that other coin and will be lucky if I ever get my initial investment back out. But the experience served me well here and I have every expectation of recovering my initial investment and then some. The main thing is to not be in too much of a hurry to do so. And if it didn't work out so well for you, at the very least you have gained a lot of experience and knowledge which will be a tremendous help to you the next time around--if you let it.

People who are whining and moaning are not just annoying. They are actually completely shooting themselves in the foot because all the complaining is interfering with their ability to see the opportunities not only here but in the cryptosphere in general.

I've been involved in the Cryptosphere for close to 20 months now. Within the first month I got bilked out of my entire supply of 0.55 BTC that I'd accumulated in a scam which now would be so obvious to me that I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. But back then I had no clue, and I paid the price. It was a hard lesson, but I learned it. Later on I lost close to $4000 worth of BTC when Inputs/CoinLenders got hacked and went belly up. That was a big ouch too. But despite those losses, I also managed to pull out more than that in profits, much of which went to better my life, and some of which went to investments in mining hardware so I could get involved that way. But in any case it's been like that from day one. You win some; you lose some. I realized that you really can't get too emotional about it, or you completely miss out. I have chatted with day traders who have won or lost thousands in a matter of minutes. When you win it's great, and I say always take profits when you do. When you lose it's a bummer, but you can't waste time or energy beating yourself up or complaining about how the system was rigged against you or trolling threads. You just have to ponder what happened and milk the experience for all its worth in terms of what you can learn from it. Since the crypto world is so fast paced you really don't want to waste any experience (be it success or failure) for its opportunity to educate you.

If you do, you are basically setting yourself up for the next failure. All the time you waste complaining and trolling threads is time not spent going back over your recent experiences and gleaning every possible lesson from it so that the next go round you can be successful.

You whiners, complainers and trolls, know this. You are only hurting yourselves. Every bit of energy you waste trolling is energy not spent in bettering yourself. The rest of us are annoyed, but not greatly impacted one way or another. In other words, we don't take you seriously. Most of you are on my ignore list for one reason only--you've used many words to say nothing of value.

This coin is not a scam. I've seen scams and the scammers behave very differently than what we've seen from the dev here. The SEED coin could turn out to be a bad investment, but that is different from a scam. Anyone calling this a scam is only demonstrating how little discernment they have. If you can't tell the difference between a scam and an honest venture which may or may not bear fruit, then you are going to get burned over and over again. And you'll whine and complain on thread after thread and you'll get nowhere and just annoy a lot of people. Don't you want something better? Why not break the cycle now? Stop spewing, listen and learn.
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October 15, 2014, 03:52:14 AM
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For those of you wondering approximately when growth will end:

This is a best guess estimate based on the average speed that blocks have been found over the last two days:
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=136&iso=20141018T02&year=2014&month=10&day=18&hour=2&min=0&sec=0&msg=Growth%20End&csz=1

That time may vary, give or take an hour.



As for plans, I am still working on that roadmap. I will try to have it out by tomorrow. In the meantime I did post a lot of my personal thoughts and plans in this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=795954.msg9180471#msg9180471



Also, for anyone trying to comb the thread looking for an official word from me on anything please feel free to check my post history. I know what a mess it is to try and stay up to date on this thread, I just spent a considerable amount of time trying to do so, but as I am the only Dev at the moment and all of my attention of late has been focused on SeedCoin, if you're looking for any official information from the Dev (me) on SeedCoin, my post history is probably a good place to check and a far less daunting place to look.

As for pot seeds, I'm not against it but I'd say crypto has pot pretty well covered;) There's plenty of pot related coins out there, I don't think we need another one. I like the idea of seeds and growing food and plants. One of the original ideas I had was planting groves of trees.

I love the idea of
I have been in contact with someone I know here in Florida. They run a nursery and specialize in exotic plants, chemicals, botanicals, ect. They sell everything from pepper plants/seeds, to cactus, fruits, veggies, rare plants, carnivorous plants, he even sells antibiotics (for fish and animals only). He has a website and is pretty well known in my area as the Plant Man. Anyway, I was there checking some stuff out today and just for the heck of it I mentioned seedcoin. My friend is familiar with bitcoin but not so much altcoins. He said he was interested in maybe accepting seedcoin. He is supposed to check it out and get back to me. It is a very small shop and website but it could be a start for seedcoin buying goods. He did have a couple concerns but I will bring those up if the time comes.

This sounds awesome popcorn. If your friend has any questions or concerns he is more than welcome to contact me. This sounds like an amazing opportunity for SEED, and it is exactly the sort of shop I'd like to see SEED associated with:)

Thank you for contacting them!

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