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I lost my coins at minerpool! in my Transactions page no TX#  cant payout!  please check it ASAP my address is sXM3K7UgUAmgdLSzZEMoLYkbCYNZTY5cag Alright. I'm really sorry for the delay. I haven't been able to keep on top of the thread because I've been pulling my hair out trying to get things sorted node wise, but it's clear while I've been busy that a stable fork has emerged. Here's the pools I can absolutely confirm are on the right fork right now
lifeforce
suchpool
supernova
hashlink
goldmine.es has been hard at work bringing their pool onto the right fork, so they may be as well, but I can't tell because I can't find any difficulty or block information on their site.
minerpools is unfortunately NOT on the right fork.
Minerpools is not on the right fork. Make sure you're on the right fork too. go to help > debug window and type getblock 0000000000317ba2e4f96df08cd53223bfe77b4666c5873c196f96c886b7f6ec If you don't get an error, you're on the right fork. If you do, update to the latest wallet (which is a mandatory update), clear your blockchain, and resync. but before forked where is my money? can you connect the pool owner to fix it? If you earned your coins on the correct fork, before it split off, then your coins will be in the pool after it is updated to the most recent wallet. Then you will be able to withdraw, as long as your wallet is on the correct fork. |
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wiser
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October 07, 2014, 02:15:06 PM |
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I'm doing this. It still thinks I only need to go to block 3544. EDIT: Oh wait, never mind. My wallet it now synced and at block 3704. I had to create that conf file. Do I just delete it? Or empty out the lines and have a blank one? EDIT: I deleted the connect lines from the .conf file and just have a blank one now. And my wallet is at 3710 and I can tell it's now keeping up. So I think I'm back in business. Thanks! alright. If you're sure you've got the latest wallet, then open up %appdata%/seedcoin and edit seedcoin.conf (make it if you don't already have one) and put the following lines in it:
connect=185.45.192.191
connect=198.144.184.175
connect=199.127.226.221
save the file, close the wallet if it's open, and delete everything in that folder except wallet.dat and seedcoin.conf then start the wallet again.
It will take some time, as you'll be placing the entire burden of syncing on the nodes, and they probably wont allow you to connect right away since you've been on the wrong node, but it will eventually. Once you're all sync'd up then delete those lines from your seedcoin.conf or you wont be able to connect to anyone else on the network.
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October 07, 2014, 02:17:39 PM |
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I lost my coins at minerpool! in my Transactions page no TX# cant payout! please check it ASAP my address is sXM3K7UgUAmgdLSzZEMoLYkbCYNZTY5cag Alright. I'm really sorry for the delay. I haven't been able to keep on top of the thread because I've been pulling my hair out trying to get things sorted node wise, but it's clear while I've been busy that a stable fork has emerged. Here's the pools I can absolutely confirm are on the right fork right now
lifeforce
suchpool
supernova
hashlink
goldmine.es has been hard at work bringing their pool onto the right fork, so they may be as well, but I can't tell because I can't find any difficulty or block information on their site.
minerpools is unfortunately NOT on the right fork.
Minerpools is not on the right fork. Make sure you're on the right fork too. go to help > debug window and type getblock 0000000000317ba2e4f96df08cd53223bfe77b4666c5873c196f96c886b7f6ec If you don't get an error, you're on the right fork. If you do, update to the latest wallet (which is a mandatory update), clear your blockchain, and resync. but before forked where is my money? can you connect the pool owner to fix it? If you earned your coins on the correct fork, before it split off, then your coins will be in the pool after it is updated to the most recent wallet. Then you will be able to withdraw, as long as your wallet is on the correct fork. who is the minerpool owner? |
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October 07, 2014, 02:21:40 PM |
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alright. If you're sure you've got the latest wallet, then open up %appdata%/seedcoin and edit seedcoin.conf (make it if you don't already have one) and put the following lines in it:
connect=185.45.192.191
connect=198.144.184.175
connect=199.127.226.221
save the file, close the wallet if it's open, and delete everything in that folder except wallet.dat and seedcoin.conf then start the wallet again.
It will take some time, as you'll be placing the entire burden of syncing on the nodes, and they probably wont allow you to connect right away since you've been on the wrong node, but it will eventually. Once you're all sync'd up then delete those lines from your seedcoin.conf or you wont be able to connect to anyone else on the network.
I created a new seedcoin.conf added in the 3 nodes, deleted everything except the .conf and wallet.dat and restarted and the syncing blocks have dropped from 181 to 39 however its still stuck at 3505 even though it says its syncing and the block numbers are decreasing. Close the wallet and reopen it. I know when I was trying to sync my personal wallet that seemed to help when I was trying. Also, just for completeness sake, do check help > about seedcoin and doublecheck that the version number is v1.0.1.0 Thanks for the help mate, closing it and reopening it let it sync. Deleted the add nodes and tested the getblock 00000000000c8062ce8888ef0f7e149b76231ff7b4ca25c4156b68d87c331602 All good now! |
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wiser
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October 07, 2014, 02:23:07 PM |
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I lost my coins at minerpool! in my Transactions page no TX# cant payout! please check it ASAP my address is sXM3K7UgUAmgdLSzZEMoLYkbCYNZTY5cag Alright. I'm really sorry for the delay. I haven't been able to keep on top of the thread because I've been pulling my hair out trying to get things sorted node wise, but it's clear while I've been busy that a stable fork has emerged. Here's the pools I can absolutely confirm are on the right fork right now
lifeforce
suchpool
supernova
hashlink
goldmine.es has been hard at work bringing their pool onto the right fork, so they may be as well, but I can't tell because I can't find any difficulty or block information on their site.
minerpools is unfortunately NOT on the right fork.
Minerpools is not on the right fork. Make sure you're on the right fork too. go to help > debug window and type getblock 0000000000317ba2e4f96df08cd53223bfe77b4666c5873c196f96c886b7f6ec If you don't get an error, you're on the right fork. If you do, update to the latest wallet (which is a mandatory update), clear your blockchain, and resync. but before forked where is my money? can you connect the pool owner to fix it? If you earned your coins on the correct fork, before it split off, then your coins will be in the pool after it is updated to the most recent wallet. Then you will be able to withdraw, as long as your wallet is on the correct fork. who is the minerpool owner? I have some funds tied up on minerpool too and hoping to recover at least some of them. I was mining there at night and not sure when the bad fork happened. I'm lucky in that I was manually withdrawing up until I called it a night so at least I have those coins. At most I only lost 7 hours worth of mining (ouch!), but less if the fork happened later than 11pm my time. I'm glad I decided to check on this first thing in the morning, and got my rigs switched to LifeForce  |
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cryptzo (OP)
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October 07, 2014, 02:24:27 PM |
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Updated OP with all the pools currently mining on the correct chain.
I will add others as they update.
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dirtyboots77
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October 07, 2014, 02:27:06 PM |
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People who have been having staking issues, could you do me a favor and go to %appdata%/seedcoin and delete your debug.log file, then reopen seedcoin-qt.exe, and then open the new debug.log file that gets created in notepad, and post the first few lines for me please? I'm interested in finding out what it gives you for startup time.
just did it. in mountain time zone seedCoin version v1.0.1.0 ($Format:%cD) Using OpenSSL version OpenSSL 1.0.1i 6 Aug 2014 Startup time: 10/07/14 13:50:19 You're golden, that's exactly what I was hoping for. But then being able to stake 2 seed right now is quite possible. Was your stake confirmed? I have no stake in the wallet and still show immature coins I do show 2 confirmed rx at 06:02 and 06:10 but that was before I did the update. |
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October 07, 2014, 02:28:49 PM |
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People who have been having staking issues, could you do me a favor and go to %appdata%/seedcoin and delete your debug.log file, then reopen seedcoin-qt.exe, and then open the new debug.log file that gets created in notepad, and post the first few lines for me please? I'm interested in finding out what it gives you for startup time.
just did it. in mountain time zone seedCoin version v1.0.1.0 ($Format:%cD) Using OpenSSL version OpenSSL 1.0.1i 6 Aug 2014 Startup time: 10/07/14 13:50:19 You're golden, that's exactly what I was hoping for. But then being able to stake 2 seed right now is quite possible. Was your stake confirmed? I have no stake in the wallet and still show immature coins I do show 2 confirmed rx at 06:02 and 06:10 but that was before I did the update. My understanding was after they stake, they take at least another 24 hrs to mature again before they can stake again, is that correct cryptzo? |
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james42
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October 07, 2014, 02:38:50 PM |
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Do staking coins remove PoW blocks from the mining phase?
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cryptzo (OP)
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October 07, 2014, 02:40:20 PM |
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People who have been having staking issues, could you do me a favor and go to %appdata%/seedcoin and delete your debug.log file, then reopen seedcoin-qt.exe, and then open the new debug.log file that gets created in notepad, and post the first few lines for me please? I'm interested in finding out what it gives you for startup time.
just did it. in mountain time zone seedCoin version v1.0.1.0 ($Format:%cD) Using OpenSSL version OpenSSL 1.0.1i 6 Aug 2014 Startup time: 10/07/14 13:50:19 You're golden, that's exactly what I was hoping for. But then being able to stake 2 seed right now is quite possible. Was your stake confirmed? I have no stake in the wallet and still show immature coins I do show 2 confirmed rx at 06:02 and 06:10 but that was before I did the update. My understanding was after they stake, they take at least another 24 hrs to mature again before they can stake again, is that correct cryptzo? That's true. And the update shouldn't actually do anything for staking *yet*. Some way that I'm not entirely sure of at the moment, people were able to connect to the network with times set in the future. This shouldn't be possible (if you do it the wallet complains at you, loudly). Obviously you can modify the code to do that, but that just doesn't seem to be the case. Some people do seem to be accessing the update early somehow, which is why I asked earlier in the thread for people to delete their debug.log, restart the client, and post the time listed at the top of their new debug.log - if it doesn't report the time in UTC then the wallet isn't going to function properly and you wont be able to stake. With that said, if it's not right, your wallet will yell at you, so I'm really confused as to why it's happening. All coins depend on people having the correct time, the time is checked and rechecked everywhere in the code. So why the time is getting skipped for some people is really bugging me. |
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cryptzo (OP)
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October 07, 2014, 02:41:57 PM |
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Do staking coins remove PoW blocks from the mining phase?
Yes. No more blocks can be mined after block 10100. Any blocks staked before block 10100 displace what would have otherwise been a mined block. |
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wiser
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October 07, 2014, 02:46:05 PM |
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Do staking coins remove PoW blocks from the mining phase?
Yes. No more blocks can be mined after block 10100. Any blocks staked before block 10100 displace what would have otherwise been a mined block. What does that mean? |
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Wheezy-
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October 07, 2014, 02:49:00 PM |
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Do staking coins remove PoW blocks from the mining phase?
Yes. No more blocks can be mined after block 10100. Any blocks staked before block 10100 displace what would have otherwise been a mined block. What does that mean? Since it's a shared stake (POS) and mined (POW) blockchain, for each block that is found by staking, that is one less block that can be mined. It then reduces the total number of mined coins by 0.1 per block that is found by staking. The more coins staked, the fewer mined, the greater % of total supply you have with your staking coins. |
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Wheezy-
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October 07, 2014, 02:51:19 PM |
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Had the ICO been more productive, and 1000 ICO coins sold, it would be a very different world for miners and be much more difficult for them to find blocks assuming those 1000 coins were all staking.
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cryptzo (OP)
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October 07, 2014, 02:52:37 PM |
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Do staking coins remove PoW blocks from the mining phase?
Yes. No more blocks can be mined after block 10100. Any blocks staked before block 10100 displace what would have otherwise been a mined block. What does that mean? It means the more people stake before growth, the less coins that get mined. Everyone will have a much easier time staking in a little over 9 hours. And we're actually running behind on blocks. We should be roughly on block 3952 by now, and instead we're on 3750. So we're 200 blocks behind schedule, which is just under 3 hours. |
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wiser
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October 07, 2014, 02:54:43 PM |
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Do staking coins remove PoW blocks from the mining phase?
Yes. No more blocks can be mined after block 10100. Any blocks staked before block 10100 displace what would have otherwise been a mined block. What does that mean? Since it's a shared stake (POS) and mined (POW) blockchain, for each block that is found by staking, that is one less block that can be mined. It then reduces the total number of mined coins by 0.1 per block that is found by staking. The more coins staked, the fewer mined, the greater % of total supply you have with your staking coins. Had the ICO been more productive, and 1000 ICO coins sold, it would be a very different world for miners and be much more difficult for them to find blocks assuming those 1000 coins were all staking.
Thanks for the explanation. I guess blocks found from staking explains some of the discrepancy I'm sensing in estimated and actual mining rewards. My next question was going to be: How many coins were bought during the ICO? I just got in on this yesterday with mining so all my skin in the game is going to come through mining. I'm hoping to mine a nice amount for the growth period. |
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wiser
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October 07, 2014, 02:56:54 PM |
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Do staking coins remove PoW blocks from the mining phase?
Yes. No more blocks can be mined after block 10100. Any blocks staked before block 10100 displace what would have otherwise been a mined block. What does that mean? It means the more people stake before growth, the less coins that get mined. Everyone will have a much easier time staking in a little over 9 hours. And we're actually running behind on blocks. We should be roughly on block 3952 by now, and instead we're on 3750. So we're 200 blocks behind schedule, which is just under 3 hours. That doesn't bother me too much (if I understand you correctly). I'm a miner so I'm all for a bit longer time for mining being more productive. It looks like I made a good decision to rent about 10 hours worth of extra hashing power about an hour ago |
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October 07, 2014, 03:01:46 PM |
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Do staking coins remove PoW blocks from the mining phase?
Yes. No more blocks can be mined after block 10100. Any blocks staked before block 10100 displace what would have otherwise been a mined block. What does that mean? Since it's a shared stake (POS) and mined (POW) blockchain, for each block that is found by staking, that is one less block that can be mined. It then reduces the total number of mined coins by 0.1 per block that is found by staking. The more coins staked, the fewer mined, the greater % of total supply you have with your staking coins. Had the ICO been more productive, and 1000 ICO coins sold, it would be a very different world for miners and be much more difficult for them to find blocks assuming those 1000 coins were all staking.
Thanks for the explanation. I guess blocks found from staking explains some of the discrepancy I'm sensing in estimated and actual mining rewards. My next question was going to be: How many coins were bought during the ICO? I just got in on this yesterday with mining so all my skin in the game is going to come through mining. I'm hoping to mine a nice amount for the growth period. There were about ~68 ICO coins, with a potential 1000 mined coins. |
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October 07, 2014, 03:04:21 PM |
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okay wallet looking good now , gonna close it and open it again when the fiesta begin (block 10101 - 20100)  |
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wiser
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October 07, 2014, 03:05:39 PM |
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There were about ~68 ICO coins, with a potential 1000 mined coins.
So... this is going to be a scarce coin? Because you still will only be able to mine 1000 coins (that doesn't seem to be impacted by number purchased during ICO) But then, those 68 ICO coins plus 1000 mined coins (assuming they all get mined), if they all stake during the growth period at 269% a day, (and I'm just estimating here based on this 1 seed could produce 1000 coins during growth period statistic I saw earlier), the total supply would be capped at 1,068,000 SEED? Am I understanding this correctly? |
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