IS UFO or ALIENS are real ?

[u9y42]

UFO can be real (unidentified flying object) and it can be a weather balloon or some military plane or plenty of things. Aliens are a different matter IMO, at least I haven't seen an alien (unless something on earth is alien-based lol).

Aliens probably think Earth's a craphole and don't want to visit it anyway. I'm sure they can think of much more interesting places to visit.

Yea, an alien race that can travel the starts is certainly not living in socalism/communism. After they see so many idiot socialists here, they will get nausea and just leave the solar system very fast.

That's quite a lot of certainty about an hypothetical alien race we know almost nothing about.

By the way, how is socialism an impediment to interstellar travel?

There is no evidence whatsoever. But, there is a lot of space out there.

No evidence? Brah, read about the Tehran accident.

What if there's not a lot of space out there? What if the space is in your head? What if the Sun is only 51.5 km in diameter and orbits above a flat unmoving Earth and there's other worlds with other suns just beyond the Antarctic ice wall?

I think the Flat Earth "theory" actually requires the Earth to be moving "up", instead of gravity being real (as gravity would cause other parts of the whole idea to fail).

Of course they are real. If you still dont believe, watch Ancient Aliens.

This is a copy/paste of a post by cubanos, but as it wasn't removed (so far, at least):

Ancient Aliens has been mentioned on this thread several times before, and you really should be careful holding it as evidence for anything other than how far some people are willing to go to push their ideas on others - even if it includes deceiving them.

Of course they are real. If you still dont believe, watch Ancient Aliens.

If you're basing your opinion on Ancient Aliens, you might want to see this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9w-i5oZqaQ (Ancient Aliens Debunked - (full movie) HD, 3h10m44s) - it goes into considerable detail debunking several of the claims Ancient Aliens makes, and doing a decent job at it, in my opinion.

Ancient Aliens Debunked is a 3 hour refutation of the theories proposed on the History Channel series Ancient Aliens. It is essentially a point by point critique of the "ancient astronaut theory" which has been proposed by people like Erich von Däniken and Zecharia Sitchin as well as many others.

http://ancientaliensdebunked.com/references-and-transcripts/ancient-nuclear-warefare/

[romano1]

They exist imo and this can never be proved i know but yet i believe it exist 

[notbatman]

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There is no evidence whatsoever. But, there is a lot of space out there.

No evidence? Brah, read about the Tehran accident.

What if there's not a lot of space out there? What if the space is in your head? What if the Sun is only 51.5 km in diameter and orbits above a flat unmoving Earth and there's other worlds with other suns just beyond the Antarctic ice wall?

I think the Flat Earth "theory" actually requires the Earth to be moving "up", instead of gravity being real (as gravity would cause other parts of the whole idea to fail).

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What if gravity isn't real, what if it's a fictitious force resulting from the electromagnetic force?

The Casimir experiments prove it's fictitious with the gravitational pesudo-force pulling on two plates at smaller scales. The Aharonov–Bohm effect also provides collaboratory proof via interference such as the double-slit experiment. If that's not enough to prove gravity isn't real beyond a reasonable doubt the Lamb shift makes it blatantly obvious.

Another example of a fictitious force that exists only in your head would be centrifugal force, it's fictitious and a result of centripetal force.

I think it's hilarious that "they" can't prove the Earth is a sphere LOL. Try Googling pictures of Earth from space, all the photographs showing Earth as a globe are as fake as the Moon landing.

[Blackmet]

There is no evidence whatsoever. But, there is a lot of space out there.

No evidence? Brah, read about the Tehran accident.

What if there's not a lot of space out there? What if the space is in your head? What if the Sun is only 51.5 km in diameter and orbits above a flat unmoving Earth and there's other worlds with other suns just beyond the Antarctic ice wall?

Brah, what the hell are you talking about? I said read about the Tehran accident, there is a bunch if evidence concerning who, how and when saw UFOs and what happened after that. Read about the O'Hara 2006 accident, where UFO has been filmed from various positions by common people.

[Casey89]

I believe! 

[klf]

There's definitely another source of life somewhere in billions and billions of galaxies. I mean, it's ridiculous to think otherwise, in my opinion.

[notbatman]

There's definitely another source of life somewhere in billions and billions of galaxies. I mean, it's ridiculous to think otherwise, in my opinion.

[u9y42]

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I think it's hilarious that "they" can't prove the Earth is a sphere LOL. Try Googling pictures of Earth from space, all the photographs showing Earth as a globe are as fake as the Moon landing.

I take it you didn't follow any of the suggestions given to you on your thread "Flat Earth"? Like, for example, sending out a balloon with a camera attached?

What if there's not a lot of space out there? What if the space is in your head? What if the Sun is only 51.5 km in diameter and orbits above a flat unmoving Earth and there's other worlds with other suns just beyond the Antarctic ice wall?

Brah, what the hell are you talking about? I said read about the Tehran accident, there is a bunch if evidence concerning who, how and when saw UFOs and what happened after that. Read about the O'Hara 2006 accident, where UFO has been filmed from various positions by common people.

The 1976 Tehran UFO incident seems interesting, though some of its details are often misreported, or omitted (Mehrabad's radar being under repair and not actually operational at the time; the frequent malfunctions of the Iranian aircraft). The Skeptoid looked into this case a few years ago, http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4315, and pointed out a number of alternative explanations to the most interesting parts of this event - though I find those alternatives a bit unsatisfactory: the object they were all seeing was Jupiter; the two projectiles the pilots saw were meteorites (though the timing here might actually fit); the aircraft malfunctioning at that time; the radar lock was acquired either through copilot error, or malfunction; and the transponder they found a day later having been left by a malfunctioning American C-141 (they were supposedly having problems with turbulence causing them to be ejected).

[Lauda]

There is no evidence whatsoever. But, there is a lot of space out there.

No evidence? Brah, read about the Tehran accident.

I've stayed away from this thread quite a while now.
There is no evidence, just speculation and "UFO" reports from people seeing funny things. Remember Roswell? This just happened because of the alien craze that effected the majority back then.
Until you either : a) see 4K raw footage (that has no signs of editing/CGI or whatever) of UFOs or aliens b) see it with your own eyes; don't believe it.

I actually saw something weird 3 times yet I don't say I sighted a UFO like the majority do. I've witnessed bright lights (comparable to majority of stars) 3 times at night(different nights, I think within a 12 month period). They usually move fairly quickly, they don't blink (rules out airplanes) and they disappear after moving some distance. There were no reports of satellites or anything in the sky in any of the nights. They moved too slowly/lasted too long to be mistaken for a falling star (I've seen these, so I wouldn't make such a mistake).
Should I call in my "UFO sightings" like the majority do? Maybe I've been abducted too and they ran experiments and erased my memory?

A example:
http://www.thinkaboutit-ufos.com/2015-ufo-sightings-increasing-in-queensland-australia-say-researchers-photos/
The quality of the videos/cameras is astonishing for 2015.  

[u9y42]

[...] I actually saw something weird 3 times yet I don't say I sighted a UFO like the majority do. I've witnessed bright lights (comparable to majority of stars) 3 times at night(different nights, I think within a 12 month period). They usually move fairly quickly, they don't blink (rules out airplanes) and they disappear after moving some distance. There were no reports of satellites or anything in the sky in any of the nights. They moved too slowly/lasted too long to be mistaken for a falling star (I've seen these, so I wouldn't make such a mistake).
Should I call in my "UFO sightings" like the majority do? Maybe I've been abducted too and they ran experiments and erased my memory? [...]

Well, if you don't know what those were, then, from your perspective, those were in fact UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) - that, by itself, carries no further information, other than stating you don't know what it was that you saw. The problem comes only when people jump from "I saw a UFO" to "so it was aliens", with no further evidence.

[Blackmet]

There is no evidence whatsoever. But, there is a lot of space out there.

No evidence? Brah, read about the Tehran accident.

I've stayed away from this thread quite a while now.
There is no evidence, just speculation and "UFO" reports from people seeing funny things. Remember Roswell? This just happened because of the alien craze that effected the majority back then.
Until you either : a) see 4K raw footage (that has no signs of editing/CGI or whatever) of UFOs or aliens b) see it with your own eyes; don't believe it.

I actually saw something weird 3 times yet I don't say I sighted a UFO like the majority do. I've witnessed bright lights (comparable to majority of stars) 3 times at night(different nights, I think within a 12 month period). They usually move fairly quickly, they don't blink (rules out airplanes) and they disappear after moving some distance. There were no reports of satellites or anything in the sky in any of the nights. They moved too slowly/lasted too long to be mistaken for a falling star (I've seen these, so I wouldn't make such a mistake).
Should I call in my "UFO sightings" like the majority do? Maybe I've been abducted too and they ran experiments and erased my memory?

A example:
http://www.thinkaboutit-ufos.com/2015-ufo-sightings-increasing-in-queensland-australia-say-researchers-photos/
The quality of the videos/cameras is astonishing for 2015.  

>>There is no evidence
Actually there is. And very serious. Specially for you - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Tehran_UFO_incident, just check what people have collected for you.
>>Until you either : a) see 4K raw footage (that has no signs of editing/CGI or whatever) of UFOs or aliens b) see it with your own eyes; don't believe it.
Have you seen a 4k raw image of your brain? Moreover, have you seen your brain with your own eyes? How can you believe you have one, if you didn't see it?
>>The quality of the videos/cameras is astonishing for 2015
The last widely known and spectated from multiple positions incident happened at O'Hara airport, 2006. The Tehran incident mentioned above happened in 1976.

[marcetin]

Who cares what anyone says, important is what do you believe!
I strongly believe as here we have lower levels of consciousness on Earth there must be higher levels outside or outside of our dimension. We have no idea what Cosmos is, just observation, calculations and assumptions, but the true is far more beyond. As someone said once "Imagine you need to explain to one ant from NY what is happening in London". Ok I am sure some shibas could understand what is happening in London
How many there are levels of consciousness beyond Earth, beyond Milky Way or beyond visible space?

Maybe we will meet them when we thrive, not divided, but as one planet. Doesn't that sounds logic?

[michietn94]

Our space is extraordinary massive. With a hundred of light speed distance , there's a chance that UFO might exist. If life can be happen on this earth, so I think it can be happen on other dimension too. So it's a matter of time for who will discover first, our human race or alien...whenever who find first, they already have a advance tehcnology

[addy boy]

i belive the are real as because we are talking about them so there must be some source if it too

[zeeshsnrehman2]

IMHO, there may be creatures out there. but humans probably not. people with 3 eyes 4 eyes or whatsoever i dont think so.

but i strongly believe there are creatures out there. the problem is light years is something unreacheable unless another form of speed can be discovered to surpass the travel through light years quicker.

Until that happens, we are alone in the Universe unless proven otherwise

[slimwallet]

Our space is extraordinary massive. With a hundred of light speed distance , there's a chance that UFO might exist. If life can be happen on this earth, so I think it can be happen on other dimension too. So it's a matter of time for who will discover first, our human race or alien...whenever who find first, they already have a advance tehcnology

Where are they though?  I mean the universe is massive.  But why don't we see a telescope, or satellite taking a picture of something?

I think there could be "creatures" or "organisms" alive in other planets.  But I don't think ET is going to be knocking at my door.

[zeeshsnrehman2]

Our space is extraordinary massive. With a hundred of light speed distance , there's a chance that UFO might exist. If life can be happen on this earth, so I think it can be happen on other dimension too. So it's a matter of time for who will discover first, our human race or alien...whenever who find first, they already have a advance tehcnology

Where are they though?  I mean the universe is massive.  But why don't we see a telescope, or satellite taking a picture of something?

I think there could be "creatures" or "organisms" alive in other planets.  But I don't think ET is going to be knocking at my door.

the universe is so deep that there are levels/barriers which are unreacheable to the human technological capacities.

until recently it was believed pluto was the last planet. the satellite launched in 2005 has proven it otherwise and we had to re write the whole universe thesis.

the supposed Big Bang is nothing but a Theory which could never be proven otherwise.

it is so vast that it is beyond our knowledge and understanding

[Lauda]

Well, if you don't know what those were, then, from your perspective, those were in fact UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) - that, by itself, carries no further information, other than stating you don't know what it was that you saw. The problem comes only when people jump from "I saw a UFO" to "so it was aliens", with no further evidence.

Well yes, UFOs. Although I was saying that it wasn't anything because people often think that UFOs are flying saucers or whatever. They mistake one for another.

>>There is no evidence
Actually there is. And very serious. Specially for you - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Tehran_UFO_incident, just check what people have collected for you.
>>Until you either : a) see 4K raw footage (that has no signs of editing/CGI or whatever) of UFOs or aliens b) see it with your own eyes; don't believe it.
Have you seen a 4k raw image of your brain? Moreover, have you seen your brain with your own eyes? How can you believe you have one, if you didn't see it?
>>The quality of the videos/cameras is astonishing for 2015
The last widely known and spectated from multiple positions incident happened at O'Hara airport, 2006. The Tehran incident mentioned above happened in 1976.

The story is rather interesting. I see no evidence in that link.
What has my brain got to do with aliens and UFOs? You obviously aren't familiar with the imaging technology used to scan the brain, or else you wouldn't ask such a dumb question. There are high resolution MRIs, which are enough for the moment.

Where are they though?  I mean the universe is massive.  But why don't we see a telescope, or satellite taking a picture of something?

I think there could be "creatures" or "organisms" alive in other planets.  But I don't think ET is going to be knocking at my door.

the universe is so deep that there are levels/barriers which are unreacheable to the human technological capacities.
until recently it was believed pluto was the last planet. the satellite launched in 2005 has proven it otherwise and we had to re write the whole universe thesis.
the supposed Big Bang is nothing but a Theory which could never be proven otherwise.
it is so vast that it is beyond our knowledge and understanding

People are very ignorant when it comes to the size of the universe. They think that it is just some big thing. You can't even classify this as huge; take a look:
http://htwins.net/scale2/

Thank me later.

[cjrosero]

Aliens are really lots of Mexican cross boarder on state. .they are called Alliens.

[Decio]