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October 24, 2014, 08:10:25 PM
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UFO has been saw a lot of times.
Aliens may exist, but I don't think it will be hi-tech like sci-fi movies where they have inhuman spaceships with blasting power far greater than anything made on Earth.

Without going into the origins of what people see as UFOs, why do you think aliens wouldn't have technology far more advanced than what humans have at present? As I stated before, I believe there could be species, literally, billions of years more advanced than humanity, given the sheer amount of time since the Big Bang and since the appearance of (what I believe to be, maybe incorrectly) conditions similar to those that gave rise to life on Earth throughout the universe. Maybe we will still meet a lot of species at roughly our technological level in the future, but I doubt those will be the majority - I mean, ask yourself, what will our advancements look like in 100 years? 1000 years? 10000 years? They might have had billions of years more than us to make those advancements.


This is pretty much the same argument I make when having these kind of debates. Also, isn't it self-evident that any alien beings that can visit us have superior intellect and technology to us?

I agree with most of these statements but I am not sure its self-evident that any alien beings that can visit us would have superior intellect and technology over us. We do not know what other elements exist on other planets in the universe and how strong those elements can be, or even the level of intellect required to use those elements based on the environment of the planet.

Look at things like uranium 236 right on our own moon, couldn't there be heavier elements being created somewhat naturally which could open up potentials for energy to an alien civilization that we have yet to come close to creating?  


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October 24, 2014, 10:12:08 PM
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Without going into the origins of what people see as UFOs, why do you think aliens wouldn't have technology far more advanced than what humans have at present? As I stated before, I believe there could be species, literally, billions of years more advanced than humanity, given the sheer amount of time since the Big Bang and since the appearance of (what I believe to be, maybe incorrectly) conditions similar to those that gave rise to life on Earth throughout the universe. Maybe we will still meet a lot of species at roughly our technological level in the future, but I doubt those will be the majority - I mean, ask yourself, what will our advancements look like in 100 years? 1000 years? 10000 years? They might have had billions of years more than us to make those advancements.

This is pretty much the same argument I make when having these kind of debates. Also, isn't it self-evident that any alien beings that can visit us have superior intellect and technology to us?

Most likely, of course, but not necessarily - or rather, we can imagine a few (unlikely) situations where that wouldn't be the case, either for those that actually visit us, or those that, even though being able to do so at their will, aren't far superior, as DarkHyudrA suggested (of course this would probably be better suited for a Startrek episode, but still fun to imagine).

So, for example, imagine the species that actually arrives to visit us is the equivalent of the microbes in Voyager (I'm kind of referring to this comic: http://what-if.xkcd.com/117), though not necessarily at that stage of evolution - and it's anyone's guess whether or not the species that actually built the ship is still around, or if it even evolved beyond the point they where at when they launched it. Another possibility: they built a generational ship, countless millennia ago to travel the cosmos, but their culture/society/technology wasn't able to flourish under the new conditions, perhaps leading to losses in many areas - hopefully the ship would be mostly automated and able to self-repair. Tongue Yet another possibility: they have indeed developed some form of interstellar travel (not necessarily FTL), but are generally much less intelligent than humans, and simply made up for it with the extra time they've had to develop (as in, they appeared much earlier).

Or maybe biological life as we know it simply can't evolve far beyond a certain point. Biology does have its limitations, and also imposes limitations on our intellectual abilities - who knows how far we can actually reach. Perhaps we're already very close to our limits (I doubt it, but while we're imagining).

And then we can also imagine life that is simply quite different from what we know: maybe some are almost completely spaceborne, but primitive; or some may be technological, but just so different from us, that they didn't follow our developmental track; and so on.

Indeed I misspoke when I claimed any alien species that could visit us would evidently have greater intellect and technology to us, since I do believe there are lifeforms that are naturally better suited to travel the cosmos and therefore do not need technology or even intellect for that matter. For example, microorganisms like bacteria can travel and spread throughout the universe with relative ease. I was only suggesting that alien beings who had to struggle (like we do) to escape their own planet, their own solar system and possibly even their own galaxy would (I assume) naturally be on a longer timeline and therefore also be more advanced than us.

Biological limitations are likely not even an issue when you consider the possibility of melding biology with technology. In fact, we are already on the cusp of this realization ourselves. Trans-humanism is going to become a reality, in the near future, as common as the automobile or cell phone is today. (All of which was considered science fiction not that long ago.) In light of this, in 100 years we may very well indeed seem like aliens to our own selves compared to the way we are today.

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November 01, 2014, 10:10:23 AM
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latest news
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/ufo-news-2014-youtube-documentary-anyone-fooled-boyd-bushmans-area-51-deathbed-confession-392737

s Anyone Fooled By Boyd Bushman's Area 51 Deathbed Confession?
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November 01, 2014, 11:23:50 AM
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I saw that yesterday, but nope - that was probably a prank he thought of before dying. Smiley And it seems that the "alien" he shows in the pictures was identical to a toy alien for sale in a store somewhere. Tongue
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November 01, 2014, 01:26:58 PM
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If you believe that aliens are from another, spiritual dimension, yes, they are very real (angels, spiritual beings etc.)
I don't believe in UFO and aliens from other planets.

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November 01, 2014, 02:25:23 PM
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are you watching History Channel about ancient aliens? LOL


Stop watching it. They are fooling you.
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November 01, 2014, 02:57:15 PM
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100% real
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November 01, 2014, 03:08:07 PM
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I saw that yesterday, but nope - that was probably a prank he thought of before dying. Smiley And it seems that the "alien" he shows in the pictures was identical to a toy alien for sale in a store somewhere. Tongue

I want to see the video, who the *%#* is Chris Mooney and why the hell would there be a copyright on the video??   Angry

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November 01, 2014, 05:02:18 PM
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He's such the Mooney guy and he wants much your Mooney that's Y U no see video.
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November 01, 2014, 05:09:48 PM
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are you watching History Channel about ancient aliens? LOL


Stop watching it. They are fooling you.

This channel sucks

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November 01, 2014, 08:25:45 PM
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I want to see the video, who the *%#* is Chris Mooney and why the hell would there be a copyright on the video??   Angry

I don't know who Chris Mooney is, or the reason for the take down request, but the following is the video I saw yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPfuZUEbhfc (Boyd Bushman | Deathbed Disclosure: Documentary & Photo Enhancements - HD 1080p). It mostly consists of Boyd Bushman describing his experiences and showing (blurry) photos of the aliens and their ships - it goes on for about 33 minutes.
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November 01, 2014, 08:38:33 PM
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I want to see the video, who the *%#* is Chris Mooney and why the hell would there be a copyright on the video??   Angry

I don't know who Chris Mooney is, or the reason for the take down request, but the following is the video I saw yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPfuZUEbhfc. It mostly consists of Boyd Bushman describing his experiences and showing (blurry) photos of the aliens and their ships - it goes on for about 33 minutes.

This is a distraction,Paul Hellyer, former Minister of Defense of Canada reveals:2 Living ETs Working with US Government

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November 01, 2014, 08:57:47 PM
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This is a distraction,Paul Hellyer, former Minister of Defense of Canada reveals:2 Living ETs Working with US Government

I hadn't heard of that one yet. Smiley

But to be honest, I think all this is a distraction, not just the other video; a distraction from activities that could otherwise actually cause change in society - so, another form of entertainment, if you will, along with most other conspiracy theories that periodically get propped up (like the JFK assassination and so on). That is not to say it is impossible that aliens are actually already here and in contact with our governments, for whatever purpose - but so far I've seen no reason to believe that is true, and wonder if our time and energy wouldn't be better spent elsewhere. Tongue
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November 01, 2014, 09:37:06 PM
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ALIENS are real. The idea that we are alone in this universe is really self centered. im not sure if we have been in contact wit them yet though.

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November 02, 2014, 08:37:59 AM
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Watch this video in FULL HD at 00:15

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November 02, 2014, 02:16:25 PM
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Of course its real. Even the church accepts it already.
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November 02, 2014, 02:20:18 PM
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HOW can anyone of us know none of us have a spaceship which we can fly up and tell you the answer this is pure speculation and ridiculous.
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November 02, 2014, 03:22:44 PM
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we built this city

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November 02, 2014, 05:29:03 PM
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Aliens is real, you can not see it, but I think that in other planet there would be life. UFO is american and russian troll which have fun to fly in our sky  Grin Grin
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