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May 08, 2012, 11:46:47 PM
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effective marketing appeals to emotion, not intellect.
Surprisingly true, sir.
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May 08, 2012, 11:50:21 PM
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effective marketing appeals to emotion, not intellect.
Surprisingly true, sir.

That's exactly the point.  bring peoples pain and frustration to the surface, then offer the solution.  That's way better than just blabbing about bitcoin from the get-go.

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May 09, 2012, 12:15:50 AM
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Bold words from a company that has HIGHER fees than Paypal!

Is Bitpay charging over 2.9% ??
Yes, if you don't use USD... just look at their page.

I'm not sure if anger and frustrations should be the emotions that make you use Bitcoin - but I guess "anything goes" is also a marketing principle, right? Wink

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May 09, 2012, 12:20:59 AM
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Bold words from a company that has HIGHER fees than Paypal!

Is Bitpay charging over 2.9% ??
Yes, if you don't use USD... just look at their page.

I'm not sure if anger and frustrations should be the emotions that make you use Bitcoin - but I guess "anything goes" is also a marketing principle, right? Wink

Bit-Pay is less than PayPal at all price points.  for sales < $20, substantially less.

https://bit-pay.com/accountingHelp.html

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May 09, 2012, 12:32:25 AM
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FYI, the origins of the project:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52109.0

And a blog post referring to the bitcoin-based crowdfunding:

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The video started out as a project on Max Keiser (@MaxKeiser)’s Pirate My Film (PMF) (@PirateMyFilm) crowdfunding platform.  Pledges at $5 and up were made by the Bitcoin community, and once the project was fully funded, the only way to send funds was with bitcoins.

The project had the goal of $1,500 USD but the project was oversubscribed and and extra 15% of funds were collected from 114 “shareholders”.  Though PMF does offer equity-based projects and each $5 contribution is referred to as a share, this particular project was not pitched as a revenue-generating film so there will be no dividends given to contributors, which the site labels as “shareholders”.  Screw Banks was the first project on PMF in which Bitcoins were accepted for payment.

 - http://www.bitcoinmoney.com/post/22683633233


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May 09, 2012, 02:24:38 AM
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I originally had some concerns about the overall tone of the video, but I think in the end it came out great.   Especially for a Max Keiser audience.  If you haven't checked it out, the page showing the cast of characters is hilarious.

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May 09, 2012, 02:26:21 AM
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I downloaded it , but i can't play it.

What's the file type ?  .flv or .swf ?

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May 09, 2012, 02:49:57 AM
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Bold words from a company that has HIGHER fees than Paypal!

Is Bitpay charging over 2.9% ??
Yes, if you don't use USD... just look at their page.

I'm not sure if anger and frustrations should be the emotions that make you use Bitcoin - but I guess "anything goes" is also a marketing principle, right? Wink

Bit-Pay is less than PayPal at all price points.  for sales < $20, substantially less.

https://bit-pay.com/accountingHelp.html

For me, paypal would be charging 37 cents on a $2.50 transaction (a single bumper sticker shipped in the US), bit-pay charges me 2.5 cents.  Paypal on small orders is 10x as expensive as bit-pay.

I actually have shipped out orders that cost $1.48, so paypal would be charging about a 20% fee on those orders.  Screw paypal.  Smiley

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May 09, 2012, 06:03:05 AM
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There are definitely good things about the video, but I have big problems with a number of elements.

(1) The "Occupy Wall Street" movement is anti-capitalist, and I don't like seeing bitcoin associated with anti-Wall Street sentiment.

(2) The idea of brokers "stealing" from clients is ridiculous. If your broker is stealing from you, you should take them to court and get a new broker.

(3) The notion of "screwing" the banks is insulting and juvenile. "We" (the "bitcoin community") are not out to screw anyone.

Overall, it's clear to anyone with half a brain that this video was designed purely for the sake of pulling in people who are overly emotional and irrational. That doesn't reflect well on the "bitcoin community."

And frankly, the kind of ignorant people who would fall for this kind of demagoguery are not going to be early adopters, anyway.

In contrast, I believe that someone could create a video that has a high degree of emotional appeal, while still arguing for bitcoin intelligently.

I know there will be a lot of disagreement with what I've said, but that's OK.. just my 2 cents (.004 bitcoins).
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May 09, 2012, 06:12:34 AM
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This video is full of win.

I want to donate bitcoins to whoever is responsible for it, in acknowledgement of its awesomeness.  I don't want to screw around with creating an account on piratemyfilm.com or "queueing shares" (whatever the heck that means).

Could you please put a donation address somewhere on the screwbanks.net website?  Thanks, and rock on!

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May 09, 2012, 06:21:30 AM
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This video is full of win.

I want to donate bitcoins to whoever is responsible for it, in acknowledgement of its awesomeness.  I don't want to screw around with creating an account on piratemyfilm.com or "queueing shares" (whatever the heck that means).

Could you please put a donation address somewhere on the screwbanks.net website?  Thanks, and rock on!

Thanks man!

The piratemyfilm window is closed.  you can donate directly through the red donate link at the site

http://screwbanks.net

which goes to lovebitcoins.  just click the 10BTC donate button and you can give whatever you want.  if you'd like your name listed as a supporter, enter that before you hit the bitcoin button.


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May 09, 2012, 06:25:14 AM
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(2) The idea of brokers "stealing" from clients is ridiculous. If your broker is stealing from you, you should take them to court and get a new broker.

I don't know what it's like in other parts of the world - but in Australia about the lowest cost for a trade appears to be around $10  
Now that's trivial to most people who are trading - but it's an entry barrier tax on the small player for which I can see little excuse in an age of electronically mediated trades.
Still - I don't really see how Bitcoin is going to help with that in any reasonable timeframe even if it does grow significantly, so I did find it a somewhat strange inclusion in the video.



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May 09, 2012, 06:30:45 AM
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(2) The idea of brokers "stealing" from clients is ridiculous. If your broker is stealing from you, you should take them to court and get a new broker.

I don't know what it's like in other parts of the world - but in Australia about the lowest cost for a trade appears to be around $10  
Now that's trivial to most people who are trading - but it's an entry barrier tax on the small player for which I can see little excuse in an age of electronically mediated trades.
Still - I don't really see how Bitcoin is going to help with that in any reasonable timeframe even if it does grow significantly, so I did find it a somewhat strange inclusion in the video.

Guys look into MF Global, that will answer all your questions.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/mf-global-client-theft-estimate-doubled-15-billion


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May 09, 2012, 06:50:35 AM
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There are definitely good things about the video, but I have big problems with a number of elements.

(1) The "Occupy Wall Street" movement is anti-capitalist

I didn't see anything resembling OWS specifically in there.

I don't like seeing bitcoin associated with anti-Wall Street sentiment.

Might you consider why this particular headline was included in Bitcoin blockchain - Block 0:

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The coinbase parameter (seen above in hex) contains, along with the normal data, the following text[1]:
"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"
- http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block



(2) The idea of brokers "stealing" from clients is ridiculous. If your broker is stealing from you, you should take them to court and get a new broker.

Speaking of, ... has anyone heard if anyone from MF Global or JP Morgue been charged with a crime yet?


(3) The notion of "screwing" the banks is insulting and juvenile. "We" (the "bitcoin community") are not out to screw anyone.

I interpreted the use of that word as a slang word used in the following referenced from Dictionary.com:

screw off, Slang .
  b.) to leave; go away.

 - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/screw?s=t

So, not as in "to cheat" but as in, "stop using them" or "forget them!"


In contrast, I believe that someone could create a video that has a high degree of emotional appeal, while still arguing for bitcoin intelligently.

There was more than $1,500 raised for this project, but I believe even that didn't cover all the costs.

If a crowdfunding effort to do that as you describe, I'ld contribute!

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May 09, 2012, 06:58:15 AM
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I downloaded it , but i can't play it.

What's the file type ?  .flv or .swf ?

MPEG4 version 2, which may or may not be in an FLV wrapper depending on which file you downloaded (YouTube doesn't like to make this simple).

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May 09, 2012, 07:02:03 AM
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Well, if someone thinks they can do a better video, why not create one? It was crowdfunded operation, and if you have a good proposal, you will surely get investments.

I liked it - a little humorous and simplistic, this will work for certain kind of people.

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May 09, 2012, 08:07:31 AM
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you can donate directly through the red donate link ... which goes to lovebitcoins.

Yeah, that's why I asked for an address to donate to the people responsible for the video.

Who is lovebitcoins?  Are they solely responsible for the video?  Are they btcpay?  Are they piratemyfilm?  Are they something else?  Sorry if this sounds stupid.  The video is awesome; the confusion over this menagerie of organizations was slightly less than awesome.

Again, thanks for the great video!

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May 09, 2012, 08:16:35 AM
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Good job guys!
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May 09, 2012, 08:32:13 AM
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-1. If I had seen this video when I was first introduced to Bitcoin (and hadn't been already familiar with the concept of cryptocurrency), I'd run for my life and wouldn't come back for a year or so. It only alienates normal, non-anarchist people.

I agree though that making your audience believe they already agree with you, rather than trying to convince them of anything, is a sound Demagogy technique.

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May 09, 2012, 09:28:54 AM
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-1. If I had seen this video when I was first introduced to Bitcoin (and hadn't been already familiar with the concept of cryptocurrency), I'd run for my life and wouldn't come back for a year or so. It only alienates normal, non-anarchist people.

I agree though that making your audience believe they already agree with you, rather than trying to convince them of anything, is a sound Demagogy technique.

This video isn't aimed for the normal people. It is for the zeitgeist-y anti-banking people, same niche as Max Keiser is targeting. weusecoins.com is for the mainstream.

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