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February 14, 2017, 08:24:30 AM
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When is the deadline and how to swap manually...
...wallet synced up with the latest blockchain that OZ posted today but now bittrex shows wallet offline.

Quote, This quick operation is meaningless and especially with poor organization and transparency.
Who decided and with what criteria? Huh

bump.  Under 1 week notice.  
Mind you this a global community.  
Holidays differ.

operation fubar.
Last week, i chimed in that cryptopia would delist ... no one commented on solution/option.
Bittrex has already closed the swap window??

Where / What / When ?

Lucy do some explaining here!

There is going to be manual swap, we are just waiting on Oizo to post specifics.

..and we have to pay a fee for manual swap?!?
I hope no, because 7 days for this shitting swap operation is a bullshit.
Where is the community involvement? Is a dev private coin?
This seems like a private operation for the circle of friends promptly informed and earn hypothetical %fee of bittrex for manual swap.
Many people who have invested since the beginning do not live everyday on this thread pressing "F5".

Who thought and decided to do this in just 7 days?
How logical manner?

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February 14, 2017, 09:37:22 AM
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There's no fee for the manual swap.
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February 14, 2017, 09:53:50 AM
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So long as there is a manual swap it's fine. The old chain was a POS time to upgrade. There should be at least 6 months for a swap but then it must all be burned. You can't have all the unclaimed white in the hands of just a couple of people it is dangerous and will stop the currency being taken seriously at all. All the new coins must be burned and all old xwc must be burned with a full ledger.

The new POS3 will reward those that stake well because as we know only a tiny fraction of people bother with staking anyway.

Once we have a stable code base let's hope we can come up with something that will take us above other simple clone coins.

We do have whiteOS which is actually very cool.

I think we have some talented devs with ideas but this is more of a hobby coin right now. Would be good to get back to a semi decent MC I like whitecoin but wow has it has been a big loss so far to me personally.



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February 14, 2017, 02:44:03 PM
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When is the deadline and how to swap manually...
...wallet synced up with the latest blockchain that OZ posted today but now bittrex shows wallet offline.

Quote, This quick operation is meaningless and especially with poor organization and transparency.
Who decided and with what criteria? Huh

bump.  Under 1 week notice.  
Mind you this a global community.  
Holidays differ.

operation fubar.
Last week, i chimed in that cryptopia would delist ... no one commented on solution/option.
Bittrex has already closed the swap window??

Where / What / When ?

Lucy do some explaining here!

There is going to be manual swap, we are just waiting on Oizo to post specifics.

..and we have to pay a fee for manual swap?!?
I hope no, because 7 days for this shitting swap operation is a bullshit.
Where is the community involvement? Is a dev private coin?
This seems like a private operation for the circle of friends promptly informed and earn hypothetical %fee of bittrex for manual swap.
Many people who have invested since the beginning do not live everyday on this thread pressing "F5".

Who thought and decided to do this in just 7 days?
How logical manner?



We had to do the swap soon, because of the blockchain problems. We have announced it in January and told, that it would be best to move all coins to Bittrex.
The announcement with the date for the automatic swap was a little bit late, so that only another 7 days were left.
But no problem at all, every coin can be swapped manually for two months, after Bittrex has finished and the new wallet is released.
No fees must be payed for the manual swap and the price for the Bittrex swap was payed by the dev team.

Best regards
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February 14, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
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Sounds good now.
Thanks for the clarification
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February 14, 2017, 09:53:56 PM
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No fees must be payed for the manual swap and the price for the Bittrex swap was payed by the dev team.

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Banger

Well that's bloody nice of you guys. Much appreciated.
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February 14, 2017, 11:01:23 PM
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maybe some ppl have a reading comprehension issue. I suggested a fee after the initial manual swap as an incentive for the devs to maybe run a couple ras PI's on the old chain so these swap stragglers still get taken care of.

In my opinion swaps should be forever but that obviously represents an issue for all dev teams that initiate swaps. It seems to me that a snapshot should resolve all issues as any coins moved after the snapshot date no longer qualify for the swap. This way if you have a paper wallet or cold storage with XWC on it but only check the thread once a year than you are still safe as the snapshot would show those XWC and amount of time they have been stored.

my 2 cents,
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February 15, 2017, 12:02:28 AM
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maybe some ppl have a reading comprehension issue. I suggested a fee after the initial manual swap as an incentive for the devs to maybe run a couple ras PI's on the old chain so these swap stragglers still get taken care of.

In my opinion swaps should be forever but that obviously represents an issue for all dev teams that initiate swaps. It seems to me that a snapshot should resolve all issues as any coins moved after the snapshot date no longer qualify for the swap. This way if you have a paper wallet or cold storage with XWC on it but only check the thread once a year than you are still safe as the snapshot would show those XWC and amount of time they have been stored.

my 2 cents,
john



Yes, but in this case, you have a wallet with 100+ mil unswapped coins in it.
And you have to trust the holder of this wallet, that he do not sell this coins in the future.
I trust the dev team, but if I were new and want to invest in a new coin (or a swapped one), then this would be a reason to not invest in it!

And the problem with the old block chain still exists, so if you keep the old chain running, that problem can come again and we want to get rid of it.

And another problem is the Mintpal and Cryptsy wallet with lots of coins in it. I think its very important to leave that bag behind us. So, after the swap is over, we can be sure that the scammers from this two exchanges are not dumping their coins sometime in the future.

But this are only my 2 cents Wink
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February 15, 2017, 03:00:53 AM
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maybe some ppl have a reading comprehension issue. I suggested a fee after the initial manual swap as an incentive for the devs to maybe run a couple ras PI's on the old chain so these swap stragglers still get taken care of.

In my opinion swaps should be forever but that obviously represents an issue for all dev teams that initiate swaps. It seems to me that a snapshot should resolve all issues as any coins moved after the snapshot date no longer qualify for the swap. This way if you have a paper wallet or cold storage with XWC on it but only check the thread once a year than you are still safe as the snapshot would show those XWC and amount of time they have been stored.

my 2 cents,
john



Yes, but in this case, you have a wallet with 100+ mil unswapped coins in it.
And you have to trust the holder of this wallet, that he do not sell this coins in the future.
I trust the dev team, but if I were new and want to invest in a new coin (or a swapped one), then this would be a reason to not invest in it!

And the problem with the old block chain still exists, so if you keep the old chain running, that problem can come again and we want to get rid of it.

And another problem is the Mintpal and Cryptsy wallet with lots of coins in it. I think its very important to leave that bag behind us. So, after the swap is over, we can be sure that the scammers from this two exchanges are not dumping their coins sometime in the future.

But this are only my 2 cents Wink
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hey banger,

we can all agree that coins from mintpal and cryptsy should be excluded. We all lost something in both those scam exchanges closing. Thats where a snapshot is so welcome....you get an idea if where every coin is now, and if they move before you exchange them you are disqualified...this keeps scammers out but still respects early investors that may not follow thread.

Dev team sends all exchanged coins to a burn address so those can't be manipulated in the future thus keeping new investors with that happy secure feeling.


I guess some people just dont realize the potential if crypto. Some of these coins will be multi billion dollar projects in the next 36 months.....not all of them, just the ones with good teams behind them.



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February 15, 2017, 09:25:46 AM
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Hi guys,

I've been away for a couple of months with a very low online profile.
Just logged on to check on xwc and saw all the news about a coin swap.

Not sure what the best thing is for me to do at the moment???
Fire up my xwc let them stake then send to Bittrex ? Or is it all too late for that.

If someone could give me guidance on what is best plan of action for me I'd be grateful.
I haven't fully read through the posts so writing this in a slight panic.


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February 15, 2017, 09:55:20 AM
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Hi guys,

I've been away for a couple of months with a very low online profile.
Just logged on to check on xwc and saw all the news about a coin swap.

Not sure what the best thing is for me to do at the moment???
Fire up my xwc let them stake then send to Bittrex ? Or is it all too late for that.

If someone could give me guidance on what is best plan of action for me I'd be grateful.
I haven't fully read through the posts so writing this in a slight panic.


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Yeah too late for the Bittrex swap.

Just hang tight, info on the manual swap is coming out once the auto-Bittrex is done.

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February 15, 2017, 09:59:39 AM
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Cheers Blitz,

Ok, I'll just be patient and wait for the dust to settle and then do the manual swap.

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February 15, 2017, 10:13:32 AM
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Hi guys,

I've been away for a couple of months with a very low online profile.
Just logged on to check on xwc and saw all the news about a coin swap.

Not sure what the best thing is for me to do at the moment???
Fire up my xwc let them stake then send to Bittrex ? Or is it all too late for that.

If someone could give me guidance on what is best plan of action for me I'd be grateful.
I haven't fully read through the posts so writing this in a slight panic.


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No reason for panic, you will have enough time for a manual swap.

Although i created a mailchimp list so i can notify users when more information is availible.
Please leave your details at: http://eepurl.com/cB87V9 and i will send out a e-mail once we have manual swap details. this might be easier if you are not monitoring this thread.

WhiteCoin Director of Operations - oizopower@whitecoin.info | http://www.richlist.eu for all your cryptocoin distribution list
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February 16, 2017, 06:12:22 PM
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Hi guys,

I've been away for a couple of months with a very low online profile.
Just logged on to check on xwc and saw all the news about a coin swap.

Not sure what the best thing is for me to do at the moment???
Fire up my xwc let them stake then send to Bittrex ? Or is it all too late for that.

If someone could give me guidance on what is best plan of action for me I'd be grateful.
I haven't fully read through the posts so writing this in a slight panic.


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No reason for panic, you will have enough time for a manual swap.

Although i created a mailchimp list so i can notify users when more information is availible.
Please leave your details at: http://eepurl.com/cB87V9 and i will send out a e-mail once we have manual swap details. this might be easier if you are not monitoring this thread.

any other tips about upcoming improvements. I guess you guys have something up your sleeves to pay for the coins swap?

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February 17, 2017, 10:56:07 PM
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You can download the new clients at the Whitecoin Github:
https://github.com/Whitecoin-org/Whitecoin/releases

Please make sure you do NOT use/import an OLD wallet.dat file into the new client. Private keys will NOT be accepted on the new network!
Don't send new Whitecoins to old addresses, they will be lost in limbo.

Details on the manual swap will be released by Oizopower once the auto-swap has been completed.
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February 18, 2017, 04:42:31 AM
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You can download the new clients at the Whitecoin Github:
https://github.com/Whitecoin-org/Whitecoin/releases

Please make sure you do NOT use/import an OLD wallet.dat file into the new client. Private keys will NOT be accepted on the new network!
Don't send new Whitecoins to old addresses, they will be lost in limbo.

Details on the manual swap will be released by Oizopower once the auto-swap has been completed.

......
The first wallet was released February 19, 2015.
After:
New Wallet release – V1.1.2.2 May 22, 2015
New Wallet release V1.1.2.3 September 1, 2016

But in those versions was nothing new and interesting. Just a copy of first wallet.

You wait for 2 years to make another copy of Blackcoin wallet ?)))  February 19, 2015- February 18, 2017

Awesome work!!! )))

Such interesting...Whitecoin and new wallet in black colors))

When you copy a source from Blackcoin it was hard to redesign it in Whitestyle ? Like in first XWC wallet. It was nice and had useful features - Update statistics.

May be some roadmap instead of copy past from BLK ?

Bittrex doesn't know ? Still Maintenance.
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February 18, 2017, 06:59:18 AM
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You can download the new clients at the Whitecoin Github:
https://github.com/Whitecoin-org/Whitecoin/releases

Please make sure you do NOT use/import an OLD wallet.dat file into the new client. Private keys will NOT be accepted on the new network!
Don't send new Whitecoins to old addresses, they will be lost in limbo.

Details on the manual swap will be released by Oizopower once the auto-swap has been completed.

Nice one!! excellent news.

Thanks again dev0tion

My assumption is that the Bittrex wallet address will change too yeah?
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February 18, 2017, 09:11:12 AM
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One question for the moment.

Will this update stop the splitting of stakeable coins? Previously staked coins would split at each generation of stake, getting 2 stakes at half value. Any idea if the update rectifies this?
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February 18, 2017, 12:04:48 PM
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Nice one!! excellent news.

Thanks again dev0tion

My assumption is that the Bittrex wallet address will change too yeah?

Yes, Bittrex addresses will change as well. So don't send any Coins from the new wallets to old addresses!

One question for the moment.

Will this update stop the splitting of stakeable coins? Previously staked coins would split at each generation of stake, getting 2 stakes at half value. Any idea if the update rectifies this?

No, splitting inputs is the way PoS works.
I recommend consolidating your inputs every now and then (definitely before u reach 1000 inputs).

Some more info on PoS (this is actually for PoS v2, there's no whitepaper for PoS v3):
https://github.com/blockchain-university/databank/blob/master/docs/blackcoin-pos-protocol-v2-whitepaper.pdf

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The first wallet was released February 19, 2015.
After:
New Wallet release – V1.1.2.2 May 22, 2015
New Wallet release V1.1.2.3 September 1, 2016

But in those versions was nothing new and interesting. Just a copy of first wallet.

You wait for 2 years to make another copy of Blackcoin wallet ?)))  February 19, 2015- February 18, 2017

Awesome work!!! )))

Such interesting...Whitecoin and new wallet in black colors))

When you copy a source from Blackcoin it was hard to redesign it in Whitestyle ? Like in first XWC wallet. It was nice and had useful features - Update statistics.

May be some roadmap instead of copy past from BLK ?

Bittrex doesn't know ? Still Maintenance.

It's no secret that we used the Blackcoin PoS v3 codebase. It's literally on our Github page that it was forked from Blackcoin. The codebase is used by a LOT of projects, as it is a pretty solid one.
White theme may come later, I've layed the groundwork for Oizopower to get started on that. Our main focus was to get a stable blockchain running because the old one was becoming very unstable.
What's important is what the Foundation decides to build on top of the new blockchain, not which codebase is used or what a few RGB values should be set to.

The swap on Bittrex is ongoing. Audit of our new code has been completed and the swap balance has been send over to Bittrex.
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February 18, 2017, 05:48:50 PM
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One question for the moment.

Will this update stop the splitting of stakeable coins? Previously staked coins would split at each generation of stake, getting 2 stakes at half value. Any idea if the update rectifies this?

No, splitting inputs is the way PoS works.
I recommend consolidating your inputs every now and then (definitely before u reach 1000 inputs).

Some more info on PoS (this is actually for PoS v2, there's no whitepaper for PoS v3):
https://github.com/blockchain-university/databank/blob/master/docs/blackcoin-pos-protocol-v2-whitepaper.pdf


Cool, thanks for the clarification.

I'm sure it will be much easier to manage now anyway as I won't be staking from small amounts of mined coins which were only a few XWC at a time.
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