cooldgamer abuse of the trust system

[hilariousandco]

It baffles me how you still think you didn't do anything wrong. By your own logic of wanting trust to appear trusted clearly there is a contradiction there, but it's become quite clear you are not a rational person nor can you think outside the box, not to mention you are being very immature about all this. So you're now going after vod because you've concocted a conspiracy that he's somehow involved in some other scam in an attempt to vindicate yourself? Well done, you've just joined the ever growing list of butthurt children who have received justified feedback from vod and want to try get their comeuppance. It's not going to work, so I'd just drop the whole thing because you're only going to come out looking worse than you already do, but if that's the path you're wanting to take so be it I guess.

[h4xx0r]

It baffles me how you still think you didn't do anything wrong. By your own logic of wanting trust to appear trusted clearly there is a contradiction there, but it's become quite clear you are not a rational person nor can you think outside the box, not to mention you are being very immature about all this. So you're now going after vod because you've concocted a conspiracy that he's somehow involved in some other scam in an attempt to vindicate yourself? Well done, you've just joined the ever growing list of butthurt children who have received justified feedback from vod and want to try get their comeuppance. It's not going to work, so I'd just drop the whole thing because you're only going to come out looking worse than you already do, but if that's the path you're wanting to take so be it I guess.

Why don't you wait until Vod shows up before you decide that i've "concocted a conspiracy".

[hilariousandco]

I am not admitting that i did anything untrustworthy, because I DID NOT. I am not admitting to buying trust, because THAT WAS NOT THE POINT. Kinda just threw that in there at the last second. I am still mad, true but whatever. You faggots win, so congratulations, here's your prize. My middle finger bitch! sit on it and spin. wait you'd probably like that.

Oh, and pussy ass fuck boy, there is a difference between being stubborn and standing your ground. I'm not gonna take any shit, so go try that logic on someone dumb enough to accept it.

Clearly I'm dealing with someone who isn't smart enough to accept logic. I'm really not sure whether you're just trolling now or are just so blinded by your anger and stubbornness that you won't listen to anything that doesn't suit your agenda or proves you wrong. You're being stubborn because nearly everybody apart from you can see where you fucked up and what you did was wrong. You made a thread in meta detailing exactly what you were going to do: attempt to buy trust from trusted users. Why the hell did you even do that? You're either ridiculously stupid or this was just your plan all along. It's like a scammer announcing how he is going to pull off a con then crying when someone busts him. You're also just getting more pathetic as you go on and it's becoming pitiful now. 'Pussy ass fuck boy'? Seriously, how old are you? Let it go, seriously.

Why don't you wait until Vod shows up before you decide that i've "concocted a conspiracy".

Fair enough, I look forward to it, but hope you've got some decent evidence and not just a whole load of slander based on little to no evidence.

[h4xx0r]

I am not admitting that i did anything untrustworthy, because I DID NOT. I am not admitting to buying trust, because THAT WAS NOT THE POINT. Kinda just threw that in there at the last second. I am still mad, true but whatever. You faggots win, so congratulations, here's your prize. My middle finger bitch! sit on it and spin. wait you'd probably like that.

Oh, and pussy ass fuck boy, there is a difference between being stubborn and standing your ground. I'm not gonna take any shit, so go try that logic on someone dumb enough to accept it.

Clearly I'm dealing with someone who isn't smart enough to accept logic. I'm really not sure whether you're just trolling now or are just so blinded by your anger and stubbornness that you won't listen to anything that doesn't suit your agenda or proves you wrong. You're being stubborn because nearly everybody apart from you can see where you fucked up and what you did was wrong. You made a thread in meta detailing exactly what you were going to do: attempt to buy trust from trusted users. Why the hell did you even do that? You're either ridiculously stupid or this was just your plan all along. It's like a scammer announcing how he is going to pull off a con then crying when someone busts him. You're also just getting more pathetic as you go on and it's becoming pitiful now. 'Pussy ass fuck boy'? Seriously, how old are you? Let it go, seriously.

There you go inserting your agenda, which is clearly to get me to admit that i'm wrong somehow, when i'm not. notice you casually try to twist my thread titled "how to get a green trust on my profile" and twisted it into some evil maniacal scheme by me to defraud the trust system. Like i told you, push that logic on someone dumb enough to accept it.

To reiterate: I apologized for not heeding the warning from KWH( and anyothers as well, that should be a given). I felt like his opinion was probably a minority of the general consensus here, and decided to take my chances. I am also apologizing for calling cooldgamer and devthedev names. It was uncalled for i get that, my execuse: i was mad, and quite justifiably so. When you've done nothing wrong and you're the subject of a witch hunt like this and you can take it like a champ, well then you are a better man than me, and i would salute for you that. This is as much as i'm going to concede to you or anyone hilariousandco. i seriously wish you would drop it.

[hilariousandco]

How did I try twist your words? You laid out what you planned a couple of times and in your original thread:

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating

Everyone can see what this is apart from you. Nearly everyone accepts this logic, except you. There is no witchunt only people trying to get you to see how you are wrong on this. You've admitted several times what your intentions were and what you wanted from the trades but you just seem to not want to admit it or call it by what it is and that is you were trying to buy trust. I don't think you had some evil plan, but you wanted to abuse the system to make yourself look better regardless of whether you had honest intentions or not. I'll drop this when you do. You don't even have to admit you were wrong if you don't feel you were, but stop flogging a dead horse because you're still digging your hole so just let it go and move on and there'll be nothing further for me to comment on.

[h4xx0r]

How did I try twist your words? You laid out what you planned a couple of times and in your original thread:

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating

Everyone can see what this is apart from you. Nearly everyone accepts this logic, except you. There is no witchunt only people trying to get you to see how you are wrong on this. You've admitted several times what your intentions were and what you wanted from the trades but you just seem to not want to admit it or call it by what it is and that is you were trying to buy trust. I don't think you had some evil plan, but you wanted to abuse the system to make yourself look better regardless of whether you had honest intentions or not. I'll drop this when you do. You don't even have to admit you were wrong if you don't feel you were, but stop flogging a dead horse because you're still digging your hole so just let it go and move on and there'll be nothing further for me to comment on.

I did nothing wrong and I maintain that. I do not agree that is abusing the system. Taking a short cut and trying to gain a competitive advantage yes, but abuse no. Abuse would be fraudulent trust. If you think about it, all trust on this board is bought, some of it cheaper than others. Do you contest this logic?

[devthedev]

How did I try twist your words? You laid out what you planned a couple of times and in your original thread:

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating

Everyone can see what this is apart from you. Nearly everyone accepts this logic, except you. There is no witchunt only people trying to get you to see how you are wrong on this. You've admitted several times what your intentions were and what you wanted from the trades but you just seem to not want to admit it or call it by what it is and that is you were trying to buy trust. I don't think you had some evil plan, but you wanted to abuse the system to make yourself look better regardless of whether you had honest intentions or not. I'll drop this when you do. You don't even have to admit you were wrong if you don't feel you were, but stop flogging a dead horse because you're still digging your hole so just let it go and move on and there'll be nothing further for me to comment on.

I did nothing wrong and I maintain that. I do not agree that is abusing the system. Taking a short cut and trying to gain a competitive advantage yes, but abuse no. Abuse would be fraudulent trust. If you think about it, all trust on this board is bought, some of it cheaper than others. Do you contest this logic?

Not exactly, if you look at my trust feedback most of it is not from buying or trading anything.

[hilariousandco]

So make your mind up. You didn't attempt to buy feedback but all feedbacks are bought? If you were truly smart you would've just done this without announcing your intentions and got the feedback quickly and with minimal cost to you and everybody would be none the wiser. You saying you tried to get a competitive edge by taking a shortcut but you didn't cheat in any way is like an athlete taking performance enhancing drugs to quickly get the edge whilst maintaining he did nothing wrong (he did, he tried cheating the system just like you did regardless of what excuses you can spit out). And no, not all feedback is bought. Most people just acquire it naturally over time from doing honest trades and other such stuff but you attempted to bypass this, and your revelations here are quite revealing of your true mindset.

[kresu]

How did I try twist your words? You laid out what you planned a couple of times and in your original thread:

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating

Everyone can see what this is apart from you. Nearly everyone accepts this logic, except you. There is no witchunt only people trying to get you to see how you are wrong on this. You've admitted several times what your intentions were and what you wanted from the trades but you just seem to not want to admit it or call it by what it is and that is you were trying to buy trust. I don't think you had some evil plan, but you wanted to abuse the system to make yourself look better regardless of whether you had honest intentions or not. I'll drop this when you do. You don't even have to admit you were wrong if you don't feel you were, but stop flogging a dead horse because you're still digging your hole so just let it go and move on and there'll be nothing further for me to comment on.

I did nothing wrong and I maintain that. I do not agree that is abusing the system. Taking a short cut and trying to gain a competitive advantage yes, but abuse no. Abuse would be fraudulent trust. If you think about it, all trust on this board is bought, some of it cheaper than others. Do you contest this logic?

Yeah, I woudn't trust someone who insults other people, no matter how many trades went OK.
Maybe you just confuse the word "trust" with "that green indicator on the left on bitcointalk forum"?

[DiamondCardz]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=55122 is how you get a high trust. Not by trading $5 PP -> BTC back and forth with the sole objective of gaining Trust. Just admit your mistake and maybe your negative trust will be removed. You're getting fucking annoying now and it just decreases your chances of the negative trust being removed.

[h4xx0r]

I already did admit it was a mistake(only in the court of public opinion, morally there is no problem, but i see that paypal trades are sketchy anyway, so overall it was a mistake). I still must inform you, I don't feel like it was the big deal its being made out to be(because it isn't, you've probably just all synchronized your menstrual cycles. it happens when a bunch of bitches cohabit the same space, even on forums apparently). The sole objective wasn't just to gain trust. a killing two birds with one stone kind of thing. Gain some trust , get some bitcoin to deposit at cryptsy, none of which really matters. its my own damn business.

The annoying truth here is that you all overreacted to something very minor, and now you are putting the full court press on me to admit and walk away, and i won't do it. A simple "hey that's against the rules! cease and decist immediately!" would have sufficed, but no we needed the back biting, preconceived notion about me and my intentions, modus operandi injectus ( i made that up)  and confrontation. OTR, the pompous assery is what makes bitcoin a sideshow oddity unappealing to the masses. look how people are treated as a newbie here, whether the individual is good or bad at heart. Go ahead and give me a negative feedback if you feel that strongly that i'm a bad person and have broken the sacred laws of bitcoin talk forum. At the end of the day, you will still be full of shit, and even more so high on your own farts. I may lose the ability of selling my services for bitcoin, but with the treatment received here, good riddance. I am doing just fine in the fiat world, and i will gladly return to it and continue to do my business solely in fiat. Maybe you should learn to solve problems without jumping to conclusions and we'd all be better off.

[DiamondCardz]

That pisses me off. ANY forum with a trust system where you tried to do that would result in you being instantly slapped down. Buying trust is buying trust on ANY forum with a trust system. Don't whine about the truth.

[h4xx0r]

That pisses me off. ANY forum with a trust system where you tried to do that would result in you being instantly slapped down. Buying trust is buying trust on ANY forum with a trust system. Don't whine about the truth.

Umm, ok? if you have a point make it. Seems like you're the one whining about the truth. I never tried to buy trust. i said i thought about it, then i stipulated in my post requesting a trade that we would exchange feedback. that is not the saming thing as "buying trust", you all are trying to find deeper meaning in something as shallow Mozart's grave.

[cooldgamer]

That pisses me off. ANY forum with a trust system where you tried to do that would result in you being instantly slapped down. Buying trust is buying trust on ANY forum with a trust system. Don't whine about the truth.

Umm, ok? if you have a point make it. Seems like you're the one whining about the truth. I never tried to buy trust. i said i thought about it, then i stipulated in my post requesting a trade that we would exchange feedback. that is not the saming thing as "buying trust", you all are trying to find deeper meaning in something as shallow Mozart's grave.

You were obviously trying to farm trust from those trades, no matter how many times you try to say you weren't.  You tried to game the system, now you are marked as so.  You can still get plenty of trades here by using escrow.

[h4xx0r]

That pisses me off. ANY forum with a trust system where you tried to do that would result in you being instantly slapped down. Buying trust is buying trust on ANY forum with a trust system. Don't whine about the truth.

Umm, ok? if you have a point make it. Seems like you're the one whining about the truth. I never tried to buy trust. i said i thought about it, then i stipulated in my post requesting a trade that we would exchange feedback. that is not the saming thing as "buying trust", you all are trying to find deeper meaning in something as shallow Mozart's grave.

You were obviously trying to farm trust from those trades, no matter how many times you try to say you weren't.  You tried to game the system, now you are marked as so.  You can still get plenty of trades here by using escrow.

those trades? it was a singular, one time trade, i'm not here to trade cock sucker. you already knew that, and if you didn't well, you're the one calling me out atleast get it right. i was here to get some bitcoin through the trade, and get a positive trust rating. then i planned to offer my services, using the trust rating to help me attract potential clients. here to try and tap the bitcoin economy for extra work. that way if fiat collapses, i already will have inroads here.

[cooldgamer]

That pisses me off. ANY forum with a trust system where you tried to do that would result in you being instantly slapped down. Buying trust is buying trust on ANY forum with a trust system. Don't whine about the truth.

Umm, ok? if you have a point make it. Seems like you're the one whining about the truth. I never tried to buy trust. i said i thought about it, then i stipulated in my post requesting a trade that we would exchange feedback. that is not the saming thing as "buying trust", you all are trying to find deeper meaning in something as shallow Mozart's grave.

You were obviously trying to farm trust from those trades, no matter how many times you try to say you weren't.  You tried to game the system, now you are marked as so.  You can still get plenty of trades here by using escrow.

those trades? it was a singular, one time trade, i'm not here to trade cock sucker. you already knew that, and if you didn't well, you're the one calling me out atleast get it right. i was here to get some bitcoin through the trade, and get a positive trust rating. then i planned to offer my services, using the trust rating to help me attract potential clients. here to try and tap the bitcoin economy for extra work. that way if fiat collapses, i already will have inroads here.

Okay, that one trade (although I suspect you would have done the same again or taken up multiple members)  You wanted to make a trade for the point of gaining trust, not unlike a rep loan, both of which are scammy behavior.  You said in your other thread that you would make trades with Hero MemberS in an attempt to get green trust, which obviously takes more than one.

I'm done here, the rating stays.

[h4xx0r]

That pisses me off. ANY forum with a trust system where you tried to do that would result in you being instantly slapped down. Buying trust is buying trust on ANY forum with a trust system. Don't whine about the truth.

Umm, ok? if you have a point make it. Seems like you're the one whining about the truth. I never tried to buy trust. i said i thought about it, then i stipulated in my post requesting a trade that we would exchange feedback. that is not the saming thing as "buying trust", you all are trying to find deeper meaning in something as shallow Mozart's grave.

You were obviously trying to farm trust from those trades, no matter how many times you try to say you weren't.  You tried to game the system, now you are marked as so.  You can still get plenty of trades here by using escrow.

those trades? it was a singular, one time trade, i'm not here to trade cock sucker. you already knew that, and if you didn't well, you're the one calling me out atleast get it right. i was here to get some bitcoin through the trade, and get a positive trust rating. then i planned to offer my services, using the trust rating to help me attract potential clients. here to try and tap the bitcoin economy for extra work. that way if fiat collapses, i already will have inroads here.

Okay, that one trade (although I suspect you would have done the same again or taken up multiple members)  You wanted to make a trade for the point of gaining trust, not unlike a rep loan, both of which are scammy behavior.  

I'm done here, the rating stays.

      You weren't going to remove it either way. I had already apologized to you and you ignored that post, so it goes without saying that that apology is now rescinded.

      Continuing,  you cannot possibly know i would have done another trade again. That reminds me of that movie with Tom Cruise where they charged people with crimes they would commit in the future, but i will digress and defer on that matter, to the more pressing issue:

If this is scammy behaviour, why are Signature Campaign reps not considered scammy?

       Ive saw plenty of rep loans btw, look at default trust. half the members on the list have questionable feedback. Look at TF, Blazr, and Vod. Far from model citizens. Remember their account farming operation? how about when Blazr got caught and paid his way out of it? enlisting Vod and others to leave negative feedback on the posters who busted them out? there was never any recourse for either of them on the matter.

No punishment for the protected, tsk tsk. Reminds me of corporate america.

To me, it seems we have a system here designed to protect the interest of a select few, and leave the common user on the outside looking in. We need a clearer guidelines and more accountability for all, not just the select few. there needs to be a counterbalance. like the ability for an admin to leave a note on trust ratings.

[cooldgamer]

That pisses me off. ANY forum with a trust system where you tried to do that would result in you being instantly slapped down. Buying trust is buying trust on ANY forum with a trust system. Don't whine about the truth.

Umm, ok? if you have a point make it. Seems like you're the one whining about the truth. I never tried to buy trust. i said i thought about it, then i stipulated in my post requesting a trade that we would exchange feedback. that is not the saming thing as "buying trust", you all are trying to find deeper meaning in something as shallow Mozart's grave.

You were obviously trying to farm trust from those trades, no matter how many times you try to say you weren't.  You tried to game the system, now you are marked as so.  You can still get plenty of trades here by using escrow.

those trades? it was a singular, one time trade, i'm not here to trade cock sucker. you already knew that, and if you didn't well, you're the one calling me out atleast get it right. i was here to get some bitcoin through the trade, and get a positive trust rating. then i planned to offer my services, using the trust rating to help me attract potential clients. here to try and tap the bitcoin economy for extra work. that way if fiat collapses, i already will have inroads here.

Okay, that one trade (although I suspect you would have done the same again or taken up multiple members)  You wanted to make a trade for the point of gaining trust, not unlike a rep loan, both of which are scammy behavior.  

I'm done here, the rating stays.

You weren't going to remove it either way. I had already apologized to you and you ignored that post, so it goes without saying that that apology is no rescinded.Continuing,  you cannot possibly know i would have done another trade again. That reminds me of that movie with Tom Cruise where they charged people with crimes they would commit in the future, but i will digress and defer on that matter, to the more pressing issue:

If this is scammy behaviour, why are Signature Campaign reps not considered scammy?

Ive saw plenty of rep loans btw, look at default trust. half the members on the list have questionable feedback. Look at TF, Blazr, and Vod. Far from model citizens. Remember their account farming operation? how about when Blazr got caught and paid his way out of it? enlisting Vod and others to leave negative feedback on the posters who busted them out? there was never any recourse for either of them on the matter. No punishment for the protected, tsk tsk. Reminds me of corporate america.

To me, it seems we have a system here designed to protect the interest of a select few, and leave the common user on the outside looking in. We need a clearer guideline. It seems one thing is acceptable until the general consensus changes on the matter.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating

Sig campaigns are people providing a legitimate service (advertising) in exchange for BTC.  Once the transaction is done people may leave trust.  Stunna did not make trusting him a requirement to be part of the sig campaign.

[h4xx0r]

That pisses me off. ANY forum with a trust system where you tried to do that would result in you being instantly slapped down. Buying trust is buying trust on ANY forum with a trust system. Don't whine about the truth.

Umm, ok? if you have a point make it. Seems like you're the one whining about the truth. I never tried to buy trust. i said i thought about it, then i stipulated in my post requesting a trade that we would exchange feedback. that is not the saming thing as "buying trust", you all are trying to find deeper meaning in something as shallow Mozart's grave.

You were obviously trying to farm trust from those trades, no matter how many times you try to say you weren't.  You tried to game the system, now you are marked as so.  You can still get plenty of trades here by using escrow.

those trades? it was a singular, one time trade, i'm not here to trade cock sucker. you already knew that, and if you didn't well, you're the one calling me out atleast get it right. i was here to get some bitcoin through the trade, and get a positive trust rating. then i planned to offer my services, using the trust rating to help me attract potential clients. here to try and tap the bitcoin economy for extra work. that way if fiat collapses, i already will have inroads here.

Okay, that one trade (although I suspect you would have done the same again or taken up multiple members)  You wanted to make a trade for the point of gaining trust, not unlike a rep loan, both of which are scammy behavior.  

I'm done here, the rating stays.

You weren't going to remove it either way. I had already apologized to you and you ignored that post, so it goes without saying that that apology is no rescinded.Continuing,  you cannot possibly know i would have done another trade again. That reminds me of that movie with Tom Cruise where they charged people with crimes they would commit in the future, but i will digress and defer on that matter, to the more pressing issue:

If this is scammy behaviour, why are Signature Campaign reps not considered scammy?

Ive saw plenty of rep loans btw, look at default trust. half the members on the list have questionable feedback. Look at TF, Blazr, and Vod. Far from model citizens. Remember their account farming operation? how about when Blazr got caught and paid his way out of it? enlisting Vod and others to leave negative feedback on the posters who busted them out? there was never any recourse for either of them on the matter. No punishment for the protected, tsk tsk. Reminds me of corporate america.

To me, it seems we have a system here designed to protect the interest of a select few, and leave the common user on the outside looking in. We need a clearer guideline. It seems one thing is acceptable until the general consensus changes on the matter.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating

Sig campaigns are people providing a legitimate service (advertising) in exchange for BTC.  Once the transaction is done people may leave trust.  Stunna did not make trusting him a requirement to be part of the sig campaign.

I looked before i leapt with that post. Hence my admission of a mistake. I am not talking about stunna. he is a respected user and is no doubt on the up and up.

[nutildah]

Now that you can buy and sell accounts with no recourse, the trust system is completely meaningless.

Think about it.