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October 14, 2014, 10:58:38 PM
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the best thing we can do is give up arguing with a schizo, because it doesn't get you anywhere.
I'm pretty sure no-one here is actually expecting to get anywhere with this, except maybe dank.  Tongue


People called Einstein insane too.

"You're totally bonkers, but I'll tell you a secret, all the best people are" Lewis Carol Alice and Wonderland

"The people who change the world are the ones crazy enough to think they can" Steve Jobs

All the word crazy means is different.  Lack of understanding.  You may call me insane, but if my awareness has increased exponentially in a positive manner, perhaps I am not the one who's insane.

Look at our world.  Meditate on it.

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October 14, 2014, 11:14:02 PM
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More proof dank's words aren't worth the energy to display them.

Let me disclaim, to be fair: if this doesn't manifest into reality by 2013, 2012 is nothing, concert doesn't happen, I will get a job and pay my dues.

I'll give this to you, time was never my power.  Time is an illusion, all we have is now.  I had a much more optimistic view in terms of the acceptance of my message as it unfolded before me.  I now see humanity is very set in their ways, stuck.  People are normally scared to change.  That is why only by facing your fears can you find enlightenment.  Fear holds you to death.  Fight your fears with true intention and you'll never lose, they are a manifestation of your own consciousness.

But I'd still say it is all manifesting into existence quite well.

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Quite well indeed.
Your reply completely and utterly avoided defending against what Vod threw at you.
Your all smoke and mirrors my friend, smoke and mirrors. Cheesy


"The people who change the world are the ones crazy enough to think they can" Steve Jobs
And a healthy dose of very hard work. Something your not too keen on.

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October 15, 2014, 12:17:51 AM
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More proof dank's words aren't worth the energy to display them.

Let me disclaim, to be fair: if this doesn't manifest into reality by 2013, 2012 is nothing, concert doesn't happen, I will get a job and pay my dues.

I'll give this to you, time was never my power.  Time is an illusion, all we have is now.  I had a much more optimistic view in terms of the acceptance of my message as it unfolded before me.  I now see humanity is very set in their ways, stuck.  People are normally scared to change.  That is why only by facing your fears can you find enlightenment.  Fear holds you to death.  Fight your fears with true intention and you'll never lose, they are a manifestation of your own consciousness.

But I'd still say it is all manifesting into existence quite well.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3_rvdcvP1zE

Quite well indeed.
Your reply completely and utterly avoided defending against what Vod threw at you.
Your all smoke and mirrors my friend, smoke and mirrors. Cheesy


"The people who change the world are the ones crazy enough to think they can" Steve Jobs
And a healthy dose of very hard work. Something your not too keen on.

that's actually a good point.. einstein or jobs never accused their parents of being possessed by the devil because they wouldn't support their lazy children  Cheesy

you change the world by working hard, not by being lazy and trying to start your own cult on a forum/message board.

dank, if you want to change the world, go out to the subway and preach.. also record a video of you doing it, and post it to your youtube channel. there's some guy doing that in new york, and he "earns" enough money to live doing it. i don't have a link though, but i saw it a few months ago on reddit.
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October 15, 2014, 12:42:40 AM
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I don't ask that at all.  I'm simply telling you how earth is evolving and what the future holds.  Earth is rising in vibrational frequency regardless.  So those who adapt to the paradigm shift will continue to live on earth.  Those who wish to continue living in the lower dimensional realm - of greed, governments, disease and death - are welcome to do so.  You'll just be relocated to a different earthlike planet to do so.

*What* you're telling us isn't the issue because we already have that accessible through your previous posts.  I'm talking about *why* you've chosen this approach to saving the world and I'm calling BS on it.

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If it's greedy of me to ask for a world of love, unity and sharing, is it not greedy to force a world of greed, law and slavery onto me?

Egocentrism.  That's the context you've created to justify your behavior, but you refuse to accept the validity of the context everyone else perceives.  To you, it's about adhering to some idyllic, postconventional moral view.  To us, we're trying to slap you back into *this* reality and tell you that your approach is insanely impractical.  To you, this world is forced upon you and you are a victim from the day you were born.  To us, while we recognize the depth of corruption which can be found almost anywhere you look for it, we also recognize that we are products of our environment with many positive qualities and characteristics, and so there is as much to honor as to abhor.  

To directly answer your question, no, it's not greedy because it's simply unfair to call it "forcing law and slavery onto [you]."  That is the context you have chosen, and if you want to live your like feeling like a victim then you are welcome to do so.  I think it might be worth reflecting upon the idea that those to whom you preach about liberation probably feel more free than you do.

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And before you say "so you want to kill those who don't correspond with your beliefs?"  No.  Those who are not on the ascension timeline are the ones who will be killing each other and in essence are the one's killing themselves.  If you do not believe humans can live forever without dying, then your reality will manifest according to your own beliefs and you will get what you ask.  The negatives will attract the negatives and positives attract the positives.

I would never say that.  More like, "So you want to sh*t on the contributions of your peers by effectively calling all of us evil for working to support an "evil" machine of corruption, something that you said you would not do for yourself for moral reasons, and then have the nerve to post threads asking us to lend you our spoils?"  

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Time is simply accelerating, we are experiencing exponential evolution.  Those that live by ego and death will be allowed to continue doing so in a world of ego and death.  Those that live by love will do so on earth, as earth itself is rising in a higher vibration of love.

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It is completely perfect, everyone gets as they wish.  Want to blame someone about it, blame the universe.  But remember, the universe is you.

Dank, it's not profound what you said.    All a person has to do is study something like the quantum to understand that reality is stranger than fiction.  But -- and here's the kicker -- we even have loads of data about quantum reality based upon actual scientific experiments.  This means that we can literally take an uneducated person with a classical view of the world, show him the results of such an experiment, and blow his mind.  And, with the millions of people living today who already have been exposed to this knowledge, why do you suppose they aren't preaching to everyone about how the Universe is so much more than what it appears to be?  It's simple -- it has no practical significance right now.  You're banging your head into a brick wall for no good practical reason.  Now, if you can take a statement like "the Universe is you," model it, and then identify and model some practical use for it, then that would be fantastic.   But get a job first.

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So no, I'm not forcing any reality onto anyone other than the words I speak.  I'm simply a channeller of the state of the future - don't get mad at the messenger.  You are free to live lives ruled by matter and decay, it just won't be on earth.  And that is no one's choice but yours.

I'm not getting mad at the messenger, I'm telling him that he sucks at being a messenger.  You either 1) Don't know what you claim to know because you contradict yourself like no tomorrow by playing both sides of the fence whenever it's convenient for you, or 2) you do know what you claim to know but suck at expressing it in a way that's meaningful to others, also because you contradict yourself like no tomorrow.

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In regards to your other post, joint, I don't exaggerate the depth of reality, I bring it to light.  The rabbit hole is endless, people do not realize that their actions come back.  You may say I exaggerate the importance of one's actions, but I say that your actions literally ripple throughout the entire world ans universe.  All you do is felt within you.

I didn't say you exaggerate the depth of reality, I said you exaggerate the importance of your actions and your perspective.

I'm glad you brought up the "ripple" analogy, because this is a case-in-point example of you conveniently dancing on whatever side of the fence is most practical for you.    The Butterfly Effect is what we call a mathematically uncertain theory.  It's uncertain not because it isn't true, but because it's opposing theory (i.e. that there is no significant Butterfly Effect) is also true, i.e. both are equally valid depending on the perspective you take.  For example, I can claim that I'm typing this post to you simply because I wanted to, and also because of my interdependence with the lighting generated from the storm cloud on Planet Flafluga.    

In your case, Dank, the rippling of your behavior only applies to the things you want to do but haven't done yet.  You believe that your music festival and your posts here and your motorcycle exhibitions and your drug experiences will ripple positive vibes throughout the Universe, thereby cleansing everything.   But, the ripple analogy goes out the window anytime it has to do with getting a job or repaying your debts.  You don't, for example, believe that continuing with your current behavior could send a rippling effect through the Universe, making everyone less likely to honor their obligations, less trustworthy, more lazy, more stubborn, etc.  You also don't believe that getting a job and repaying your debt would send a rippling effect making everyone more likely to be hard-working, practical, resourceful, etc.

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In regards to Hells Angels, it doesn't matter that they didn't kill me.  What matters that I believed those 100 bikes circling the house for the day, revving their engines full throttle as they passed and spray paintings reading THEY KILLED BAMBI, GET HIGH NIGGA, and KILLRS were there for me.  And I still do, undoubtedly.

The epitome of egocentrism.  You said it, "What matters [to you] is [you] believed..." and I don't even need to finish it.  What matters to you is your belief.  Everyone else is wrong, you have all the answers, and so right off the bat you've made it a priori impossible to argue with you.

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Even if that never happened, although it did, it doesn't matter.  In my mind, I was sacrificing my life for the lives of others.  If that's egotistical to you, I don't even know what to say.

In your mind = egocentrism.  In my mind, it was stupid.  If honest, you would only do such a thing if you believed that the potential value of your sacrifice is greater than the value of your own life.  Your parents would disagree.  I would also disagree because you overestimate the potential value of your sacrifice to the point of delusion.

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I am not the one with the only answers.  There are probably several thousands of people on this planet that are more evolved than I am.

Then you might want to learn from the ones who were/are successfully able to communicate what they know.

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I'm simply the one divulging the answers.  I'm simply the one who's purpose is to disclose and ascend.  It doesn't matter what body takes this role, but there will always be one human that triggers singularity for others.  I discovered the math equation necessary to trigger ascension and the mass levitation of a million people, so it only seems right to act on it and manifest it into reality.  Who else is in a better position to do so?  I've only experienced levitation three times (twice sober) seen with my eyes closed a few times, remote viewed, physically astral projected to asia, held a piece of a cloud from moving, quantum healed a dog from cancer, the list only grows.  Can we be real and not use rational and doubt to belittle all I have experienced?

No, you're divulging inconsistent generalities (i.e. inconsistent in terms of what you say versus what it implies for your own behavior).

Two serious questions 1) Do you believe that every other person who has made similar claims to you, and who may or may not have had psychiatric diagnoses or hospital stays, is genuine (or, conversely, do you believe that there are no insane people who make these claims)?  And, 2) If not, what do you think separates you from these other people (i.e. why are they insane and you're not)?

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Regarding vod, he is a shill.  It is that plain and simple.  He has a huge wealth of bitcoin from 2011 he's greedy, angry and scared of the moneyless future I propose.  Hence he follows me around and slanders me in an attempt to debase the truth of my words.

A shill for *who*?  You know I'm not stupid enough to believe that Vod's alleged wealth is the primary reason he calls you out repeatedly.  Egocentrism at it's finest.  All the *elitists* are after you!

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Yes, the government runs psyops campaigns.  Yes, the government pays people to spread misinformation.  Yes, special interest groups do the same.  It matters not which sector the guy is on, they are all driven by greed.

I run a Federal financial assistance program designed to move nursing home residents with a history of SMI (serious mental illness) into apartments in the surrounding community.  Clients who are referred and are assessed at a high-enough level of functioning are provided with rent subsidies as well as funding for furniture and other household items.  The program sees a >80% success rate (where success is defined by >1 year residing in the community without reinstitutionalization).  The initiative provides better health care at a reduced cost and enables minority citizens a chance at living in the least-restrictive environment possible.

The Federal Government runs all types of these sort of initiatives.  Why aren't you acknowledging and talking about these, too?  

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Is vod me?  Physically, no.  Vod has a separate body with it's own brain.  Universally, yes.  I am all.  You are all.  Ego is a creation of god, it is not separate.  It's simply a matter of lower vibrations vs higher vibrations.  The higher you vibrate, the more love you resonate.

I bet you can't model that on a sheet of paper (i.e. the relationship between both physical and *other* reality, the relationship between you and others like vod, and the relationship between you and God, into one nice, consistent model).  If you can I'd be *very* interested.  If you can't, you probably don't know what you just said.

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I (god) am resolving the quarrel with vod by raising earth's vibrational frequency to the extent all ego is removed from this plane of existence.

Holy egocentrism!  I mean I'm all about spreading positive vibes and the Butterfly Effect and all that jazz, but know your limits!  

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Vod can enjoy his ego in hell and I can enjoy peace in heaven.  It is a win win scenario, we both get the reality we create.

Here's more of your egocentrism, though in this case it's more of a Messiah Complex.  It's also an example of another *extreme* contradiction.  In a prior post you were calling for Vod to reply without judgment and yet your entire stated purpose follows your judgment of literally the entire Universe.

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Sorry to everyone if I'm a egocentric narcissist for sharing my convictions and beliefs on the internet.  Sorry if I'm a corrupt individual because I can't get myself to become a cog in a machine, a brick on the wall.  Sorry that it just hurts my soul too much to live a lie I am so aware of.  An important part of being a freestyle guitarist that plays from the soul is having a clear conscious and healthy life.  Feeding people monsanto poison and paying taxes to the government does not fit my view of healthy life choices.

It's not about sharing your convictions or beliefs.  Here you go conjuring up a context of victimization.  

You should say sorry to yourself for not being good at adapting.  If you can't be a cog in a machine, we'll replace you for a good cog so that the machine *works*.  If you think you can just let the machine break all of a sudden without dire consequences, you're insanely naive.

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Forgive me for wanting to play guitar, sing, raise chickens and grow real food.  Forgive me for wanting to produce free energy machines and teach others to ascend into the next dimension.  Forgive me for sharing ideas of peace in this dreadful world.

Lol Totally sounds like the life of a Universe-saver to me.  We can save the Universe with a 24/7 hoe-down.

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And joint, if I ever use a logical fallacy, please point it out.  I seek nothing but the truth.

Sure, just go back and read all our conversations.
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October 15, 2014, 03:15:02 AM
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dank, I am willing to have a proper debate with you.  You have shown in this thread that you can't do it in an open environment.

I suggest a neutral party create a moderated thread, where posts that don't apply to the debate can be deleted.

Each person can ask one question per post, provided they answer the question that is asked them.

Any garbage such as your philosophical comments would also be deleted.

The topic would be your debt and your obtaining new loans.

Let me know if this is something you want to do.

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October 15, 2014, 07:50:40 AM
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Problem here is finding a neutral party. In danks eyes everyone is against him.

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October 15, 2014, 11:00:34 AM
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Yo dank you still levitating for BTC?

Why not open up a psychic booth or something like that?

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October 15, 2014, 12:09:52 PM
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I would suggest for your debate that answers to questions be limited to 100 or so words.
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October 15, 2014, 02:45:58 PM
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I would suggest for your debate that answers to questions be limited to 100 or so words.
Good idea. May I also suggest no answering a question with a question. A favourite ploy played by dank.

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October 15, 2014, 03:15:05 PM
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Tangentially, the Word of the Day on dictionary.com is mythomane: noun; a person with a strong or irresistible propensity for fantasizing, lying, or exaggerating.

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"Having lived with a mythomane ," she wrote, "I know they believe everything they say; they are not conscious liars, they invent to increase everything about themselves and their lives and believe it."
-- Nicholas Shakespeare, “A Life Less Ordinary,” Granta , 1998,

Damn, that sounds spot on!

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October 15, 2014, 04:04:50 PM
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why not try to give Dank a 3rd chance?

they say third time's a charm

it costs us nothing though..

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October 15, 2014, 04:58:50 PM
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why not try to give Dank a 3rd chance?

they say third time's a charm

it costs us nothing though..

Ok, you loan him the bitcoins and see what happens, since it costs nothing.
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October 15, 2014, 05:18:52 PM
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why not try to give Dank a 3rd chance?

they say third time's a charm

it costs us nothing though..

Ok, you loan him the bitcoins and see what happens, since it costs nothing.

wtf, are you talking about?

why would anyone give him a loan when he can't repay his old loans?

I'm talking about creating a new pay plan for him to return the loan

Probably let him in on discussing the pay plan

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October 15, 2014, 05:59:20 PM
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why not try to give Dank a 3rd chance?

they say third time's a charm

it costs us nothing though..

Ok, you loan him the bitcoins and see what happens, since it costs nothing.

wtf, are you talking about?

why would anyone give him a loan when he can't repay his old loans?

I'm talking about creating a new pay plan for him to return the loan

Probably let him in on discussing the pay plan


Creating a new payment plan doesn't really do any good when he refuses to get a job.

He doesn't want to support the "machine" in any way and thinks that playing his guitar and raising chickens for money will totally absolve him from doing so, all the while while failing to realize that he already supports it through food, drug, and motorcycle-related purchases, sales tax, etc.  He already gets money from somewhere, but he dances around this issue when confronted and he's already made it clear that repaying his debts aren't his first priority.
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October 15, 2014, 07:04:20 PM
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Dank, can't you try to find a job somewhere for example planting trees, as a zoo keeper, cleaner, waiter, something like that?

You're not supporting the machinery that way

Even working for the machinery you're taking money from them and that money could go in wrong hands if you don't take it and use it for good [repaying your loan]

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October 15, 2014, 07:23:50 PM
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why not try to give Dank a 3rd chance?

they say third time's a charm

it costs us nothing though..

Ok, you loan him the bitcoins and see what happens, since it costs nothing.

wtf, are you talking about?

why would anyone give him a loan when he can't repay his old loans?

I'm talking about creating a new pay plan for him to return the loan

Probably let him in on discussing the pay plan


My bad, I thought you meant give him a third chance as in loan him btc because maybe this time will be different, not restructure his current debt. Sorry I misunderstood! Grin
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Dank, you're only 21 so its hard to put complete blame on you for your situation, which you must not enjoy, otherwise you wouldn't constantly bitch about it.

However, its obvious you come from a wealthy background, a life of privilege and instant gratification. You've never worked very hard towards anything except for trying to scam people out of money.

You've obviously burned most of your bridges with friends and family, yet your family gives you enough to keep going, yet you still can't get it together enough to figure out that nobody actually owes you anything and you are the only one responsible for your own future.

I think you're a bright guy, just try turning your talents towards something that actually helps society instead of just expecting them to fund your lifestyle. Its not gonna happen. If you stopped tripping for a few weeks maybe you could land a sugar mama. Problem solved.

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October 15, 2014, 10:30:24 PM
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Dank, you're only 21 so its hard to put complete blame on you for your situation, which you must not enjoy, otherwise you wouldn't constantly bitch about it.

However, its obvious you come from a wealthy background, a life of privilege and instant gratification. You've never worked very hard towards anything except for trying to scam people out of money.

You've obviously burned most of your bridges with friends and family, yet your family gives you enough to keep going, yet you still can't get it together enough to figure out that nobody actually owes you anything and you are the only one responsible for your own future.

I think you're a bright guy, just try turning your talents towards something that actually helps society instead of just expecting them to fund your lifestyle. Its not gonna happen. If you stopped tripping for a few weeks maybe you could land a sugar mama. Problem solved.
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October 16, 2014, 03:27:41 AM
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dank, I am willing to have a proper debate with you.  You have shown in this thread that you can't do it in an open environment.

I suggest a neutral party create a moderated thread, where posts that don't apply to the debate can be deleted.

Each person can ask one question per post, provided they answer the question that is asked them.

Any garbage such as your philosophical comments would also be deleted.

The topic would be your debt and your obtaining new loans.

Let me know if this is something you want to do.

A debate without philosophy is no debate for me.  This thread wasn't created to talk about debts, but to talk about what is.

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October 16, 2014, 03:34:27 AM
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dank, I am willing to have a proper debate with you.  You have shown in this thread that you can't do it in an open environment.

I suggest a neutral party create a moderated thread, where posts that don't apply to the debate can be deleted.

Each person can ask one question per post, provided they answer the question that is asked them.

Any garbage such as your philosophical comments would also be deleted.

The topic would be your debt and your obtaining new loans.

Let me know if this is something you want to do.

A debate without philosophy is no debate for me.  This thread wasn't created to talk about debts, but to talk about what is.

The only thing I am interested in debating is your debt and your ability to carry another loan.  I'm not interested in your insane views of the universe.   Undecided

I guess I win.

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