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June 29, 2016, 01:58:38 PM |
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The price is low now, but the good thing is that there is a high volume than normal,also has and buyers. We need from good volume,if we want to be added Cloak to other big exchanges,they win from fees and volume.
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lab rat hoax
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June 29, 2016, 02:15:19 PM |
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I think livecoin helped. Nice move
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June 29, 2016, 02:36:47 PM |
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The more there is buysupport, so much better the price increase...
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June 29, 2016, 05:12:49 PM |
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we need daily 20k usd volume
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lazi
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June 29, 2016, 06:00:58 PM |
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we need daily 20k usd volume
Ok then buy daily for $20k some CLOAKs ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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June 30, 2016, 09:07:49 AM |
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we need daily 20k usd volume
Ok then buy daily for $20k some CLOAKs ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Good news even we are not in top 100 coin list of coinmarketcap ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) to the moooooon
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June 30, 2016, 10:54:44 AM |
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we need daily 20k usd volume
Ok then buy daily for $20k some CLOAKs ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Good news even we are not in top 100 coin list of coinmarketcap ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) to the moooooon Actually whats your problem?
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June 30, 2016, 11:29:54 AM |
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we need daily 20k usd volume
Ok then buy daily for $20k some CLOAKs ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Good news even we are not in top 100 coin list of coinmarketcap ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) to the moooooon Actually whats your problem? He has mental problems ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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June 30, 2016, 12:16:50 PM |
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I have read through and researched the content of the first 100 pages on the original CLOAK Bitcointalk thread. Progress is well underway to get the book "Cloak - History of the First Year" written and published in the next few months ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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lab rat hoax
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June 30, 2016, 12:27:59 PM |
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cool thanks for noticing us here
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June 30, 2016, 12:29:04 PM |
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I have read through and researched the content of the first 100 pages on the original CLOAK Bitcointalk thread. Progress is well underway to get the book "Cloak - History of the First Year" written and published in the next few months ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) If you need more information about CLOAK, take here a look: www.cloakcoin.com/roadmap
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cuteflower
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June 30, 2016, 07:04:50 PM |
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we need daily 20k usd volume
Ok then buy daily for $20k some CLOAKs ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Good news even we are not in top 100 coin list of coinmarketcap ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) to the moooooon Actually whats your problem? i am just giving power to this thread ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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cuteflower
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June 30, 2016, 07:05:42 PM |
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we need daily 20k usd volume
Ok then buy daily for $20k some CLOAKs ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Good news even we are not in top 100 coin list of coinmarketcap ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) to the moooooon Actually whats your problem? He has mental problems ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) yes little mental problems in my brain
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July 02, 2016, 06:17:04 AM |
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I have been with Cloak since the beginning and saw all my investment go to practically nothing (around 35,000 USD). It was a very humbling experience but I stayed on because I believed in the product. Not soon after did we have the gut wrenching announcement by the Dagger that he was throwing in the towel.
2 years on, with all the information out there, we can pretty much sum up that Alty and Dagger either 1: got in way over their heads, or 2: It was all a money making scam. We can debate all we want but what happened....happened. On top of all of this we now know that there was a HUGE pump and dump scheme run by Bobsurplus. There was a great read about it written by someone who was in on the PnD scheme and I can't be bothered finding it but it is on Google.
Now came the White Knight, Cashmen. He took over the product and realized THERE WASN'T EVEN A PRODUCT TO BE HAD! In short, Cloak Coin was nothing. However, from the ground up him and his team worked extremely hard over the next year and a half creating a (new) Cloak that was worthy of the big boys.
After all this, since the biggest release ever for Cloak (POSA3), it had a small rise and a steady fall to what it is now. It is steady between 10-20 Satoshi. Unfortunately, I personally believe that this is what Cloak is 100% worth. Not the product, but the name.
The Cloak story is stuff of legend among the Crypto community. Even new comers in the community know about the story of Cloak. So the absolute main problem we have here is the name, CLOAK. There are many brands/products that failed only because of some bad publicity. And we have A LOT of bad publicity from the past.
What we have now is a Coin that is just as good as the top contenders such as Dash, Dark, ETH, to name a few. However, they are in the 100's of thousands, if not millions of satoshi and we are stuck at 10,000. It's hard to give up an emotional commitment to something but it is time to do that very thing.
It is time we give up on Cloak and re-brand it into something it deserves to be. The new Cloak team got nothing from the old team except the name....CLOAK. In saying that, It should not be called Cloak anymore because Cloak is exactly that, Nothing (the name I mean).
In conclusion, Cloak will never rise to anything more than what it is today if we keep the tarnished name it is. Please read this with an open mind and not with your heart and hopefully you will see some truth in what I say. It took me 2 years to finally put this into words but I believe this to be the truth.
Change the Name and let's watch this coin grow to the size it deserves to be.
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July 02, 2016, 08:06:13 AM |
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I have been with Cloak since the beginning and saw all my investment go to practically nothing (around 35,000 USD). It was a very humbling experience but I stayed on because I believed in the product. Not soon after did we have the gut wrenching announcement by the Dagger that he was throwing in the towel.
2 years on, with all the information out there, we can pretty much sum up that Alty and Dagger either 1: got in way over their heads, or 2: It was all a money making scam. We can debate all we want but what happened....happened. On top of all of this we now know that there was a HUGE pump and dump scheme run by Bobsurplus. There was a great read about it written by someone who was in on the PnD scheme and I can't be bothered finding it but it is on Google.
Now came the White Knight, Cashmen. He took over the product and realized THERE WASN'T EVEN A PRODUCT TO BE HAD! In short, Cloak Coin was nothing. However, from the ground up him and his team worked extremely hard over the next year and a half creating a (new) Cloak that was worthy of the big boys.
After all this, since the biggest release ever for Cloak (POSA3), it had a small rise and a steady fall to what it is now. It is steady between 10-20 Satoshi. Unfortunately, I personally believe that this is what Cloak is 100% worth. Not the product, but the name.
The Cloak story is stuff of legend among the Crypto community. Even new comers in the community know about the story of Cloak. So the absolute main problem we have here is the name, CLOAK. There are many brands/products that failed only because of some bad publicity. And we have A LOT of bad publicity from the past.
What we have now is a Coin that is just as good as the top contenders such as Dash, Dark, ETH, to name a few. However, they are in the 100's of thousands, if not millions of satoshi and we are stuck at 10,000. It's hard to give up an emotional commitment to something but it is time to do that very thing.
It is time we give up on Cloak and re-brand it into something it deserves to be. The new Cloak team got nothing from the old team except the name....CLOAK. In saying that, It should not be called Cloak anymore because Cloak is exactly that, Nothing (the name I mean).
In conclusion, Cloak will never rise to anything more than what it is today if we keep the tarnished name it is. Please read this with an open mind and not with your heart and hopefully you will see some truth in what I say. It took me 2 years to finally put this into words but I believe this to be the truth.
Change the Name and let's watch this coin grow to the size it deserves to be.
I Agree with him 100%. I too was involved from very beginning, I even mined Cloak in its first week of inception and saw my investment go from 20 BTC to 150+ BTC and back down to less than 20 BTC. I would've cashed out some, not all of it during the Pump to cover my initial investment, but luck would have it I was on vacation and was on airplane during the peak of pump. when the price fell below 2000 satoshi at one point, I just wrote the whole thing off and moved on. I still have every single Cloak, hoping someday It will recover to previous glory, but as the time goes on I am less and less hopeful. Rebranding with fresh new name and fresh new project built on top of what the dev's have accomplished so far would greatly boost the Cloak value, I think. For example, look at givecoin and 2givecoin. Givecoin effectively died, but one of the involved member brought it back with fresh new spin and swapped old coin with new 1:1 and the price soared, now trading at about 8-10 times higher than old givecoin used to. I fully support rebranding. P.S. I am not a tech head, but curious so I must ask. Would it be possible to move to Ethereum ecosystem and build on top of their protocol with what we have so far?
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July 02, 2016, 08:20:45 AM |
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I have been with Cloak since the beginning and saw all my investment go to practically nothing (around 35,000 USD). It was a very humbling experience but I stayed on because I believed in the product. Not soon after did we have the gut wrenching announcement by the Dagger that he was throwing in the towel.
2 years on, with all the information out there, we can pretty much sum up that Alty and Dagger either 1: got in way over their heads, or 2: It was all a money making scam. We can debate all we want but what happened....happened. On top of all of this we now know that there was a HUGE pump and dump scheme run by Bobsurplus. There was a great read about it written by someone who was in on the PnD scheme and I can't be bothered finding it but it is on Google.
Now came the White Knight, Cashmen. He took over the product and realized THERE WASN'T EVEN A PRODUCT TO BE HAD! In short, Cloak Coin was nothing. However, from the ground up him and his team worked extremely hard over the next year and a half creating a (new) Cloak that was worthy of the big boys.
After all this, since the biggest release ever for Cloak (POSA3), it had a small rise and a steady fall to what it is now. It is steady between 10-20 Satoshi. Unfortunately, I personally believe that this is what Cloak is 100% worth. Not the product, but the name.
The Cloak story is stuff of legend among the Crypto community. Even new comers in the community know about the story of Cloak. So the absolute main problem we have here is the name, CLOAK. There are many brands/products that failed only because of some bad publicity. And we have A LOT of bad publicity from the past.
What we have now is a Coin that is just as good as the top contenders such as Dash, Dark, ETH, to name a few. However, they are in the 100's of thousands, if not millions of satoshi and we are stuck at 10,000. It's hard to give up an emotional commitment to something but it is time to do that very thing.
It is time we give up on Cloak and re-brand it into something it deserves to be. The new Cloak team got nothing from the old team except the name....CLOAK. In saying that, It should not be called Cloak anymore because Cloak is exactly that, Nothing (the name I mean).
In conclusion, Cloak will never rise to anything more than what it is today if we keep the tarnished name it is. Please read this with an open mind and not with your heart and hopefully you will see some truth in what I say. It took me 2 years to finally put this into words but I believe this to be the truth.
Change the Name and let's watch this coin grow to the size it deserves to be.
Can we please stop this mis-information, people saying that there was nothing handed over to Cashmen it is ABSOLUTE NONSENSE. During my time in cloak we built: Exchange anon. In wallet trading. The first versions of proof of stake anonymity that I labelled PoSA. All of that was available for Cashman. If you check the original thread you'll see that public and closed public testing took place for PoSA during my time running Cloak, so to say there was nothing is just totally misleading people. The only thing that wasn't correct was my developer telling me there was work completed for the latest version of PoSA which it turned out that wasn't the case. So please let's not overlook the fact the original team did a hell of a lot for that coin. Cloak didn't get to where it was on 2014 on thin air, you just have to go back and read through some of the original thread to see that. The fact it was pump and dumped by "whoever" back then was also totally out of the original Cloak teams hand.
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July 02, 2016, 12:04:16 PM |
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I have been with Cloak since the beginning and saw all my investment go to practically nothing (around 35,000 USD). It was a very humbling experience but I stayed on because I believed in the product. Not soon after did we have the gut wrenching announcement by the Dagger that he was throwing in the towel.
2 years on, with all the information out there, we can pretty much sum up that Alty and Dagger either 1: got in way over their heads, or 2: It was all a money making scam. We can debate all we want but what happened....happened. On top of all of this we now know that there was a HUGE pump and dump scheme run by Bobsurplus. There was a great read about it written by someone who was in on the PnD scheme and I can't be bothered finding it but it is on Google.
Now came the White Knight, Cashmen. He took over the product and realized THERE WASN'T EVEN A PRODUCT TO BE HAD! In short, Cloak Coin was nothing. However, from the ground up him and his team worked extremely hard over the next year and a half creating a (new) Cloak that was worthy of the big boys.
After all this, since the biggest release ever for Cloak (POSA3), it had a small rise and a steady fall to what it is now. It is steady between 10-20 Satoshi. Unfortunately, I personally believe that this is what Cloak is 100% worth. Not the product, but the name.
The Cloak story is stuff of legend among the Crypto community. Even new comers in the community know about the story of Cloak. So the absolute main problem we have here is the name, CLOAK. There are many brands/products that failed only because of some bad publicity. And we have A LOT of bad publicity from the past.
What we have now is a Coin that is just as good as the top contenders such as Dash, Dark, ETH, to name a few. However, they are in the 100's of thousands, if not millions of satoshi and we are stuck at 10,000. It's hard to give up an emotional commitment to something but it is time to do that very thing.
It is time we give up on Cloak and re-brand it into something it deserves to be. The new Cloak team got nothing from the old team except the name....CLOAK. In saying that, It should not be called Cloak anymore because Cloak is exactly that, Nothing (the name I mean).
In conclusion, Cloak will never rise to anything more than what it is today if we keep the tarnished name it is. Please read this with an open mind and not with your heart and hopefully you will see some truth in what I say. It took me 2 years to finally put this into words but I believe this to be the truth.
Change the Name and let's watch this coin grow to the size it deserves to be.
Can we please stop this mis-information, people saying that there was nothing handed over to Cashmen it is ABSOLUTE NONSENSE. During my time in cloak we built: Exchange anon. In wallet trading. The first versions of proof of stake anonymity that I labelled PoSA. All of that was available for Cashman. If you check the original thread you'll see that public and closed public testing took place for PoSA during my time running Cloak, so to say there was nothing is just totally misleading people. The only thing that wasn't correct was my developer telling me there was work completed for the latest version of PoSA which it turned out that wasn't the case. So please let's not overlook the fact the original team did a hell of a lot for that coin. Cloak didn't get to where it was on 2014 on thin air, you just have to go back and read through some of the original thread to see that. The fact it was pump and dumped by "whoever" back then was also totally out of the original Cloak teams hand. Seriously? The "original" Cloak team,together with Bob and his army made a hell of a pump and dump and then go on vacation for a long time. During this time hell of a lot of people lost a hell of a lot of money. WE REMEMBER! So don't come back here to hear to your lies and bullshits! You're a scammer!
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July 02, 2016, 01:17:47 PM |
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In wallet trading.
Who the fuck need that? In wallet trading is the biggest shit i every saw Your team integrated it only to pump your shit better...
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aknutty
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July 02, 2016, 01:39:04 PM |
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I have been with Cloak since the beginning and saw all my investment go to practically nothing (around 35,000 USD). It was a very humbling experience but I stayed on because I believed in the product. Not soon after did we have the gut wrenching announcement by the Dagger that he was throwing in the towel.
2 years on, with all the information out there, we can pretty much sum up that Alty and Dagger either 1: got in way over their heads, or 2: It was all a money making scam. We can debate all we want but what happened....happened. On top of all of this we now know that there was a HUGE pump and dump scheme run by Bobsurplus. There was a great read about it written by someone who was in on the PnD scheme and I can't be bothered finding it but it is on Google.
Now came the White Knight, Cashmen. He took over the product and realized THERE WASN'T EVEN A PRODUCT TO BE HAD! In short, Cloak Coin was nothing. However, from the ground up him and his team worked extremely hard over the next year and a half creating a (new) Cloak that was worthy of the big boys.
After all this, since the biggest release ever for Cloak (POSA3), it had a small rise and a steady fall to what it is now. It is steady between 10-20 Satoshi. Unfortunately, I personally believe that this is what Cloak is 100% worth. Not the product, but the name.
The Cloak story is stuff of legend among the Crypto community. Even new comers in the community know about the story of Cloak. So the absolute main problem we have here is the name, CLOAK. There are many brands/products that failed only because of some bad publicity. And we have A LOT of bad publicity from the past.
What we have now is a Coin that is just as good as the top contenders such as Dash, Dark, ETH, to name a few. However, they are in the 100's of thousands, if not millions of satoshi and we are stuck at 10,000. It's hard to give up an emotional commitment to something but it is time to do that very thing.
It is time we give up on Cloak and re-brand it into something it deserves to be. The new Cloak team got nothing from the old team except the name....CLOAK. In saying that, It should not be called Cloak anymore because Cloak is exactly that, Nothing (the name I mean).
In conclusion, Cloak will never rise to anything more than what it is today if we keep the tarnished name it is. Please read this with an open mind and not with your heart and hopefully you will see some truth in what I say. It took me 2 years to finally put this into words but I believe this to be the truth.
Change the Name and let's watch this coin grow to the size it deserves to be.
I don't agree. Not yet atleast. There is about to be a book made with this name it would be kind of nuts to change the name right before then. Just let it ride for a little while. You were so patient for so long then the real deal actually comes and everyone is so impatient all of a sudden. I've been making small buys every week for quite a while now and am now one of the largest holders. The tech is there, the team is there, the pr is coming, only 3 real projects left, chill and get cheap coins.
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liquidflames
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July 02, 2016, 02:14:05 PM |
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I have been with Cloak since the beginning and saw all my investment go to practically nothing (around 35,000 USD). It was a very humbling experience but I stayed on because I believed in the product. Not soon after did we have the gut wrenching announcement by the Dagger that he was throwing in the towel.
2 years on, with all the information out there, we can pretty much sum up that Alty and Dagger either 1: got in way over their heads, or 2: It was all a money making scam. We can debate all we want but what happened....happened. On top of all of this we now know that there was a HUGE pump and dump scheme run by Bobsurplus. There was a great read about it written by someone who was in on the PnD scheme and I can't be bothered finding it but it is on Google.
Now came the White Knight, Cashmen. He took over the product and realized THERE WASN'T EVEN A PRODUCT TO BE HAD! In short, Cloak Coin was nothing. However, from the ground up him and his team worked extremely hard over the next year and a half creating a (new) Cloak that was worthy of the big boys.
After all this, since the biggest release ever for Cloak (POSA3), it had a small rise and a steady fall to what it is now. It is steady between 10-20 Satoshi. Unfortunately, I personally believe that this is what Cloak is 100% worth. Not the product, but the name.
The Cloak story is stuff of legend among the Crypto community. Even new comers in the community know about the story of Cloak. So the absolute main problem we have here is the name, CLOAK. There are many brands/products that failed only because of some bad publicity. And we have A LOT of bad publicity from the past.
What we have now is a Coin that is just as good as the top contenders such as Dash, Dark, ETH, to name a few. However, they are in the 100's of thousands, if not millions of satoshi and we are stuck at 10,000. It's hard to give up an emotional commitment to something but it is time to do that very thing.
It is time we give up on Cloak and re-brand it into something it deserves to be. The new Cloak team got nothing from the old team except the name....CLOAK. In saying that, It should not be called Cloak anymore because Cloak is exactly that, Nothing (the name I mean).
In conclusion, Cloak will never rise to anything more than what it is today if we keep the tarnished name it is. Please read this with an open mind and not with your heart and hopefully you will see some truth in what I say. It took me 2 years to finally put this into words but I believe this to be the truth.
Change the Name and let's watch this coin grow to the size it deserves to be.
I don't agree. Not yet atleast. There is about to be a book made with this name it would be kind of nuts to change the name right before then. Just let it ride for a little while. You were so patient for so long then the real deal actually comes and everyone is so impatient all of a sudden. I've been making small buys every week for quite a while now and am now one of the largest holders. The tech is there, the team is there, the pr is coming, only 3 real projects left, chill and get cheap coins. This is somewhat my point. There are large things happening with the name branded on it. It's not too late but It's getting close to the point of no return. I am not against the coin at all, only the name. I think everyone invested in Cloak whether it be 2 years ago or 2 days ago can somewhat agree that regardless of what happens in the future of this coin, a new name would only help it rise more than with the old name. Alty, "1: got in way over their heads" So you agree with some of the things I said. "We can debate all we want but what happened....happened" Can't let what happened go I guess Hats off to you Alty, you replied so quickly to my post....unlike the last few weeks of the "original team" thread. Your RISE team must be so proud of your prompt replies.
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