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November 08, 2012, 04:54:07 AM
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Do you have any advice to shareholders that are unsure of how many shares they owned at the time the GLBSE stopped providing any data? I unfortunately didn't have an up-to-date copy of my CSV file when they went down Sad

Same here, I have no Idea how many share I had. I didn't keep much attention to it, just occasionally bought some when they where cheap. What should I claim? A random number that looks nice? The only thing I know is that I had (have?) shares.
Please claim a number that is closest to your memory if no other way works. Without real GLBSE data, we don't have many choices.

Again this is a backup plan for emergency and we don't expect the possibility of us getting no data from GLBSE to be high.

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November 14, 2012, 10:50:06 AM
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Update

To any shareholders who haven't made claims yet, please report your shares to
(fnnirvana@gmail.com) with your e-mail address, your number of shares, and your
Bitcoin address.

The collection of claims could not last forever. We would in principle stop collecting
claims on forum time 23:59:59, Nov. 18th. Any claims after that should come with
very solid proof.

If you have friends or known people who don't visit this forum often, please do us
a favor to tell notify them.

And please keep in mind that this is only a backup plan on the event that GLBSE fails
to give any data.
This is a remind that the normal claim process will expire on forum time 23:59:59, Nov. 18th.

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November 15, 2012, 05:51:00 AM
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23rd Week's Coupon Pre-Calculation

Calculation time: November 15, 04:57:47 forum time

Number of difficulty change: 1
Number of block reward change: 0

Time interval:

  Starting from: November 7, 10:40:22
  Ending at: November 12, 17:51:11
  Total time: 457849s
  Difficulty: 3,304,356.39

  Starting from: November 12, 17:51:11
  Ending at: November 15, 04:57:47
  Total time: 212796s
  Difficulty: 3,368,767.14

Hashrate of this week: 1.42536

coupon/share = (1.42536*10^6)/(2^32)*(457849*50/3,304,356.39+212796*50/3,368,767.14)=0.0033473

Number of Shares: 3958

Total Payment: 62.12081 (last accumulated) + 13.2486134 (this week) = 75.3694234

(The payment will be linearly accumulated till we are able to pay)

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November 17, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
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Could you set this up again on btct.co ?

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November 28, 2012, 07:06:46 AM
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24th and 25th Week's Coupon Pre-Calculation

Calculation time: November 28, 06:57:22 forum time

Number of difficulty change: 1
Number of block reward change: 0

Time interval:

  Starting from: November 15, 04:57:47
  Ending at: November 26, 11:08:37
  Total time: 972650s
  Difficulty: 3,368,767.14

  Starting from: November 26, 11:08:37
  Ending at: November 28, 06:57:22
  Total time: 157725s
  Difficulty: 3,438,908.96

Hashrate of this week: 1.43805

coupon/share = (1.43805*10^6)/(2^32)*(972650*50/3,368,767.14+157725*50/3,438,908.96)=0.0056014

Number of Shares: 3958

Total Payment: 75.3694234 (last accumulated) + 22.1703412 (recent two weeks) = 97.5397646

(The payment will be linearly accumulated till we are able to pay)

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November 28, 2012, 07:28:48 AM
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Update

Could you set this up again on btct.co ?
We will set MOORE up again with MU and ASICMINER. We will decide which one to switch when the shareholder data
is more or less fixed. With our own collection of shareholder information, we have only collected 1,295 shares out of the
total 3,958 shares in circulation. So we would like to wait for the information from GLBSE and come up with a more complete
set.

Here is the recent update from GLBSE:
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Nov 25 / 12:00pm
More lists coming out tomorrow
by James McCarthy

I'll be sending out updated lists by tomorrow afternoon.

Ther will also be some new lists sent out for some issuers.

Got a lot of email over the weekend, if I've not replied please bear with me, I'm a bit snowed under.

He already gave out a couple of lists worth some days. Taking out the last weekend he isnt way too behind his plans. I hope its this way... at least he is still in contact.
Nefario is not in contact as usual, but one of his friends is. We got the information of "I think he has released most of the major stock classes funds" today, but haven't received anything in our mailbox. We have checked again with our account name provided and are waiting for responses.

The upgrade plan still holds. The shares will be upgraded no matter our ASICMINER succeeds soon or not. But the upgraded hash/share will depend on whether we use our own hardware or other vendors.

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December 10, 2012, 04:28:58 AM
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Could you set this up again on btct.co ?

+1

I'm not a Coinbase fan -- I placed a buy order, they took the funds out of my account, then a week later the price went up and they canceled the buy and closed my account.  You've been warned.  Use a different exchange.
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December 10, 2012, 05:43:14 AM
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Could you set this up again on btct.co ?

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We will set it up on another platform, but not necessarily btct.co.

And before that, I will first make the accumulated payment as soon as I finish comparing and confirming the
GLBSE data with the user claims, of which both are incomplete.

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December 10, 2012, 06:12:02 AM
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Could you set this up again on btct.co ?

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December 19, 2012, 05:53:41 AM
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Update

This is a quick update indicating that:

1. Confirmation mails have been sent to all shareholders who have different Bitcoin addresses claimed to GLBSE and to us.
2. All newly generated coupons are still accumulated into the first big payment when 2 is done.

More updates will be given soon.

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January 03, 2013, 06:53:46 AM
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Update

Sorry for a long period before last update but the ASICMINER project has taken most of the time and energy. The confirmations are nearly all-collected. The weekly payment of coupons will resume in 16th, Jan. 2013 in forum time.

As planned, the second time of rising the hashrate in each share will start at some time after the ASICMINER project succeeds its first deploying of hashpower.

In the long run, MOORE will be used either a mechanism of selling hashrates of ASICMINER, or stay as my personal contract to shareholders. Both are possible, but the decision is not at a highest priority in our short-term plan.

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January 06, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
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Just a question: Will shareholders that are on the GLBSE claim list but didn't submit a private claim to you (as I really have no recollection of how many shares I owned) be eligible for further ownership of MOORE?

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January 12, 2013, 11:19:54 AM
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So it's been a while i didn't think of moore, is there any significant improvment on the recovering process of your shares?

The cost of mediation increases transaction costs, limiting the
minimum practical transaction size and cutting off the possibility for small casual transactions

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January 12, 2013, 12:58:31 PM
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Just a question: Will shareholders that are on the GLBSE claim list but didn't submit a private claim to you (as I really have no recollection of how many shares I owned) be eligible for further ownership of MOORE?

Of course. Just like ASICMINER, the GLBSE data finally added up to the original sum of share number, so it would be the basis of the calculation.

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January 19, 2013, 10:05:33 PM
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This is just a warning. You are headed for a scammer thread if this asset isnt relisted on another exchange and all back dividends paid to the asset holders soon. Just because ASICMINER is getting all the attention doesnt mean you can scam the holders of other assets you issued.

You have been given the asset holder lists and theres plenty of other exchanges available that let you easily import the lists so you might want to deal with it the sooner the better if you want to avoid a tag.

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January 20, 2013, 02:52:51 AM
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This is just a warning. You are headed for a scammer thread if this asset isnt relisted on another exchange and all back dividends paid to the asset holders soon. Just because ASICMINER is getting all the attention doesnt mean you can scam the holders of other assets you issued.

You have been given the asset holder lists and theres plenty of other exchanges available that let you easily import the lists so you might want to deal with it the sooner the better if you want to avoid a tag.
The resuming of payment already started in the last week (2013-01-17 11:30:39). This is the first one, with all accumulated coupons (0.0366847BTC per share):
https://blockchain.info/tx/28f804a3d97298d413575712cb5413c07b098813e1f5f90ec1c8dd941dce47ab
here is the test payment that is 1 satoshi per transaction before the real payment:
https://blockchain.info/tx/29b1864321a918bc7b8c5d243f095a4fe8e1572db2a2e6786b98c802712638ec
The total number is 2754-26=2728. With the two different shareholders with 26 shares in total. Their GLBSE data only holds e-mail address and share number. We haven't successfully contacted yet for addresses.

The difference between 3958 and 2728 is our bought-back shares with another account before GLBSE shut down.

As an overdue fine, the hashrate per share in all weeks is also increased to the last week's instead gradually increasing per week.

The receiving addresses are based on the GLBSE data, with ~10 changed to the e-mail I received as confirmation of preferring the address claimed to us.

The re-listing will be done at the same time of ASICMINER's. And of course before that, weekly coupons are already stated paying, so they will be paid like the transaction like the above transactions.


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January 20, 2013, 02:35:36 PM
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I can confirm I received my dividends from MOORE.

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January 20, 2013, 03:48:11 PM
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I can confirm I received my dividends from MOORE.
Also got mine.  Thanks!

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January 22, 2013, 01:40:40 PM
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I just sent an email to Friedcat to claim my shares, if it is possible. Sorry for my late claim.

This is just a warning. You are headed for a scammer thread if this asset isnt relisted on another exchange and all back dividends paid to the asset holders soon. Just because ASICMINER is getting all the attention doesnt mean you can scam the holders of other assets you issued.

You have been given the asset holder lists and theres plenty of other exchanges available that let you easily import the lists so you might want to deal with it the sooner the better if you want to avoid a tag.
The resuming of payment already started in the last week (2013-01-17 11:30:39). This is the first one, with all accumulated coupons (0.0366847BTC per share):
https://blockchain.info/tx/28f804a3d97298d413575712cb5413c07b098813e1f5f90ec1c8dd941dce47ab
here is the test payment that is 1 satoshi per transaction before the real payment:
https://blockchain.info/tx/29b1864321a918bc7b8c5d243f095a4fe8e1572db2a2e6786b98c802712638ec
The total number is 2754-26=2728. With the two different shareholders with 26 shares in total. Their GLBSE data only holds e-mail address and share number. We haven't successfully contacted yet for addresses.

The difference between 3958 and 2728 is our bought-back shares with another account before GLBSE shut down.

As an overdue fine, the hashrate per share in all weeks is also increased to the last week's instead gradually increasing per week.

The receiving addresses are based on the GLBSE data, with ~10 changed to the e-mail I received as confirmation of preferring the address claimed to us.

The re-listing will be done at the same time of ASICMINER's. And of course before that, weekly coupons are already stated paying, so they will be paid like the transaction like the above transactions.



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January 23, 2013, 05:57:28 AM
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This is just a warning. You are headed for a scammer thread if this asset isnt relisted on another exchange and all back dividends paid to the asset holders soon. Just because ASICMINER is getting all the attention doesnt mean you can scam the holders of other assets you issued.

You have been given the asset holder lists and theres plenty of other exchanges available that let you easily import the lists so you might want to deal with it the sooner the better if you want to avoid a tag.

Troll much? friedcat has already made it clear hes setting up a private exchange to handle all of his assets, including MOORE and ASICMINER. He no longer trusts any exchange enough to handle his assets.

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