why do people agree to pay taxes?

[dothebeats]

because i will go to jail if i didn't pay it
the gov force me to pay taxes, and said it for developing my country
but in fact, many tax money is corrupted by bad individual in government

If you are using social healthcare or socially funded infrastructures and you aren't paying tax you do deserve jail.

If you aren't using any of these and keep it 100% private then you don't deserve jail.

Simple as.

I wish that that could be this simple. But sadly, it isn't. You know, the governments of the world doesn't simply allow any individual to live as private as possible. You need to be registered in their list to be able to live in their country.

How I wish I live as private as I can. Without taxes, or anything that is connected to any government. That would be nice, but I think I can live without the government lol.

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[dothebeats]

because i will go to jail if i didn't pay it
the gov force me to pay taxes, and said it for developing my country
but in fact, many tax money is corrupted by bad individual in government

True. Some, if not all of the money that came from tax were used not in projects related to improving and developing the country, but to the politicians themselves. Very evident in my country. Sad thing.

[NotLambchop]

Governments got their power by being stronger, smarter, and more industrious than the people they control, just like the wealthy got their wealth by being generally superior to the poor.
Ask yourself:  Would John Galt moan about being poor, weak and lazy?  Hell no!

[tee-rex]

Governments got their power by being stronger, smarter, and more industrious than the people they control, just like the wealthy got their wealth by being generally superior to the poor.
Ask yourself:  Would John Galt moan about being poor, weak and lazy?  Hell no!

If you're so smart, why are you so poor? Being stronger... well, maybe, but being smarter and more industrious?! Have you ever heard about the notion of "old money"?

From Wiki:

"Old money" applies to those of the upper class whose wealth separates them from lower social classes. According to anthropologist W. Lloyd Warner, the upper class in the United States during the 1930s was divided into the upper-upper and the lower-upper classes. The lower-upper were those that did not come from traditionally wealthy families. They earned their money from investments and business rather than inheritance. In contrast to the nouveau riche, the upper-upper class was families viewed as "quasi-aristocratic" and "high-society". These had been rich for generations. They lived off idle inheritances rather than earned wealth

[NotLambchop]

Governments got their power by being stronger, smarter, and more industrious than the people they control, just like the wealthy got their wealth by being generally superior to the poor.
Ask yourself:  Would John Galt moan about being poor, weak and lazy?  Hell no!

If you're so smart, why are you so poor? Being stronger... well, maybe, but being smarter and more industrious?! Have you ever heard about "old money"?

Of course.  One doesn't get to the throne of power by being stupid & lazy.  It takes hard work and cunning!

[dothebeats]

Governments got their power by being stronger, smarter, and more industrious than the people they control, just like the wealthy got their wealth by being generally superior to the poor.
Ask yourself:  Would John Galt moan about being poor, weak and lazy?  Hell no!

If you're so smart, why are you so poor? Being stronger... well, maybe, but being smarter and more industrious?! Have you ever heard about "old money"?

Of course.  One doesn't get to the throne of power by being stupid & lazy.  It takes hard work and cunning!

And brains too. Don't forget the brains. Without it, you can't advance in power and rule the people under you.

[NotLambchop]

^Most certainly.  For me, intelligence = cunning

[dothebeats]

^Most certainly.  For me, intelligence = cunning

If I were to ask you a question, what would you pick between the two? Then after achieving it, will you be like the politicians too? 

[NotLambchop]

^Most certainly.  For me, intelligence = cunning

If I were to ask you a question, what would you pick between the two? Then after achieving it, will you be like the politicians too?  

Depends on a whole bunch of things, like my circumstances & how much of each.  If the whole world was out to get me, I'd definitely chose cunning.  Wouldn't you?
inb4 "intelligence 'coz smart enough to convince world it don't want me" or "intelligence bcoz invent super weapon & kill world."

[picolo]

Governments got their power by being stronger, smarter, and more industrious than the people they control, just like the wealthy got their wealth by being generally superior to the poor.
Ask yourself:  Would John Galt moan about being poor, weak and lazy?  Hell no!

If you're so smart, why are you so poor? Being stronger... well, maybe, but being smarter and more industrious?! Have you ever heard about the notion of "old money"?

From Wiki:

"Old money" applies to those of the upper class whose wealth separates them from lower social classes. According to anthropologist W. Lloyd Warner, the upper class in the United States during the 1930s was divided into the upper-upper and the lower-upper classes. The lower-upper were those that did not come from traditionally wealthy families. They earned their money from investments and business rather than inheritance. In contrast to the nouveau riche, the upper-upper class was families viewed as "quasi-aristocratic" and "high-society". These had been rich for generations. They lived off idle inheritances rather than earned wealth

You can smart and having character flaws or not wanting to get rich.

[polynesia]

because i will go to jail if i didn't pay it
the gov force me to pay taxes, and said it for developing my country
but in fact, many tax money is corrupted by bad individual in government

True. Some, if not all of the money that came from tax were used not in projects related to improving and developing the country, but to the politicians themselves. Very evident in my country. Sad thing.

Politicians taking their cut is nothing new.
The problem comes when that is all they do.

[adamas]

because i will go to jail if i didn't pay it
the gov force me to pay taxes, and said it for developing my country
but in fact, many tax money is corrupted by bad individual in government

True. Some, if not all of the money that came from tax were used not in projects related to improving and developing the country, but to the politicians themselves. Very evident in my country. Sad thing.

Politicians taking their cut is nothing new.
The problem comes when that is all they do.

Politicians and diapers should both be changed regularly - and for the same reason.

[5000Bitcoins]

I believe it to be of importance to contribute to society and those less fortunate, ofcourse not all of taxes paid go towards what you want them to according to your beliefs, but I think that the majority of it do. Ofcourse, there can be severe repurcussions if you don't pay it, which also plays a part in the decision.

[Amph]

no one say they agree to pay taxex, and actually is the contrary, they evade taxes as much as possible

taxes are a form of a legal theft

[Tsquared]

because i will go to jail if i didn't pay it
the gov force me to pay taxes, and said it for developing my country
but in fact, many tax money is corrupted by bad individual in government

True. Some, if not all of the money that came from tax were used not in projects related to improving and developing the country, but to the politicians themselves. Very evident in my country. Sad thing.

Politicians taking their cut is nothing new.
The problem comes when that is all they do.

Politicians and diapers should both be changed regularly - and for the same reason.

Good one, but what to do when some politicians are glued to their chairs? Take Putin for instance, the guy changed the constitution to stay in power.

Depending on what you believe, a higher power has already set an unavoidable term limit for all humans.  Sometimes nothing can be done, but eventually even Putin will need to relinquish his position.

TT

[Hot Carl]

no one say they agree to pay taxex, and actually is the contrary, they evade taxes as much as possible

taxes are a form of a legal theft

I think everyone agrees to pay taxes when they pay voluntarily pay them. If people want to live and work in certain countries they have to play by the rules and laws set there, but people are free to move to a country where you don't have to pay taxes but usually there's a good reason why they don't.

[neoneros]

no one say they agree to pay taxex, and actually is the contrary, they evade taxes as much as possible

taxes are a form of a legal theft

I think everyone agrees to pay taxes when they pay voluntarily pay them. If people want to live and work in certain countries they have to play by the rules and laws set there, but people are free to move to a country where you don't have to pay taxes but usually there's a good reason why they don't.

It is not wise never to question the rules and laws and seek justification for them. We pay taxes from our income, then from everything we buy part goes to taxes too, that what is left we pay taxes on our savings or assets for having not spent the value of it.

But where does the money go to? Does it reflect in my surroundings, is there enough to justify the amount collected to benefit my social wellbeing? Education, expensive royal families, infrastructure..

[NotLambchop]

...
But where does the money go to? ...

[najzenmajsen]

because i will go to jail if i didn't pay it
the gov force me to pay taxes, and said it for developing my country
but in fact, many tax money is corrupted by bad individual in government

True. Some, if not all of the money that came from tax were used not in projects related to improving and developing the country, but to the politicians themselves. Very evident in my country. Sad thing.

Politicians taking their cut is nothing new.
The problem comes when that is all they do.

Politicians and diapers should both be changed regularly - and for the same reason.

Good one, but what to do when some politicians are glued to their chairs? Take Putin for instance, the guy changed the constitution to stay in power.

Depending on what you believe, a higher power has already set an unavoidable term limit for all humans.  Sometimes nothing can be done, but eventually even Putin will need to relinquish his position.

TT

Dont you know , putin has more bitcoin that all of us together. Putin is the creator of bitcoins my friend , and he's gonna make sure all the russians in the world starts using it.

[tee-rex]

because i will go to jail if i didn't pay it
the gov force me to pay taxes, and said it for developing my country
but in fact, many tax money is corrupted by bad individual in government

True. Some, if not all of the money that came from tax were used not in projects related to improving and developing the country, but to the politicians themselves. Very evident in my country. Sad thing.

Politicians taking their cut is nothing new.
The problem comes when that is all they do.

Politicians and diapers should both be changed regularly - and for the same reason.

Good one, but what to do when some politicians are glued to their chairs? Take Putin for instance, the guy changed the constitution to stay in power.

Depending on what you believe, a higher power has already set an unavoidable term limit for all humans.  Sometimes nothing can be done, but eventually even Putin will need to relinquish his position.

TT

Dont you know , putin has more bitcoin that all of us together. Putin is the creator of bitcoins my friend , and he's gonna make sure all the russians in the world starts using it.

Putin here, Putin there... Is there a thread on this forum where he is not being mentioned in the end? Taxpayer, Russians are coming to steal your taxes!