why do people agree to pay taxes?

[sl@ppy]

"why is it ok for a group of people calling themselves the government to force everyone to buy their services?
if enough armed people refused to pay and told the government to go fuck itself there is nothing they could do."

Simply put, we would no longer have a world. Most pay tax due to the fear of what will happen to them should the protection come to an end.

Go to some craphole of a country where you can kill someone anywhere and walk away, you'll be happy to pay tax. Not to mention how much we would spend on shocks without solid roadways

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[mindrust]

Only noobs pay taxes,,

Pros don't give a flying puck about taxes.

They steal big and mostly they never get caught.

[TheButterZone]

"why is it ok for a group of people calling themselves the government to force everyone to buy their services?
if enough armed people refused to pay and told the government to go fuck itself there is nothing they could do."

Simply put, we would no longer have a world. Most pay tax due to the fear of what will happen to them should the protection come to an end.

Go to some craphole of a country where you can kill someone anywhere and walk away, you'll be happy to pay tax. Not to mention how much we would spend on shocks without solid roadways

Where is this country that has a cop <10 seconds away anywhere in it? You can effectively kill anyone anywhere (short of a police station or hot range) and walk away in every country where only cops and criminals carry guns everywhere.

Where is this country that has solid roadways where nobody's car ever gets damaged?

[sl@ppy]

Really Butter? Are you really that dense.

[TheButterZone]

The density of butter is 911 kg/m3
The average human body density is 1062 kg/m3

[sl@ppy]

Maybe you should get out and explore the world.  These discussions always crack me up.  There is only one outcome.  It is the same outcome there has always been.  Does nobody care about history?
Let's say we rise up>  Ok.  Cool.  Now what?  General lawlessness for a bit.  That lasts until some people pay a protection tax to not be bothered.  Once you pay tax you want comfort.  Someone always has a better answer, look at how all the different countries around the world are run.
It never stops, Just keeps going round and round.

[Atdhe]

People pay taxes to create a good place for live (with services like hospital, police ecc.). But in many country this isn't possible. I would like to live in the North of Europe, where there is very civilization (and very beautiful woman  ).

Yes everyone wants to live there, especially from IIIrd world countries. So they keep dreaming about the paradise in the Europe and do not make even smallest effort to do anything in their countries. Politicians are perfect scapegoat everywhere. But the poorer the country the bigger scapegoat politicians are. Paradoxically this false belief itself is the biggest obstacle of development. The obstacle are not the politicians who are useless and greedy everywhere.

[ravix5]

Paying taxes is good thing ,if nobody pays the taxes and for example someone  have car accident or someone get robbed  or killed or smth then where get help? Pure anarchy and jungle when no taxes.Problem is when the taxes is too high and harm humans.But the idea  paying equivalent tax is good ,i think.

[TheButterZone]

"Protection taxes" aka bribes are already paid around the world to government officials by those who want to have the usurped privilege (when it's the fundamental human right) to effectively defend themselves. In spite of your beloved "laws" which only disarm and punish those who can't afford the bribes.

I'd prefer your "lawlessness" equally for all, instead of just for those who can afford to bribe.

[Atdhe]

Paying taxes is good thing ,if nobody pays the taxes and for example someone  have car accident or someone get robbed  or killed or smth then where get help? Pure anarchy and jungle when no taxes.Problem is when the taxes is too high and harm humans.But the idea  paying equivalent tax is good ,i think.

Paying taxes is a good thing if the other people pay and not you. This implies for everyone and everyone is trying for that in more or less legal ways.

Paying equivalent tax is a nice idea as well. There are many definitions of equivalence and equivalent tax. Some extremes of equivalent tax are lump sum tax and tax that causes for all people the same disponibile income. Of course everyone likes most the tax that is most favourable to his own wallet.

I'd prefer your "lawlessness" equally for all, instead of just for those who can afford to bribe.

Unfortunatelly for you and for majority of people, reality is not what most people wish for. It never was like that and never will be. It will be even much less in BTC-economy, because it will be even more antidemocratic than recent systems.

[ravix5]

Look if there where not any single tax there no internet bcs paying for goods is tax what you must pay for this good.If you buy bitcoins you pay the tax for bitcoin which is it price ,if someone mine bitcoin the must pay for electricity internet and other things which is not possible to get when no taxes.Tax= equivalent of some goods ,the problem is that  in some places taxes is too high and peaple dont have money to pay so much and this taxes harm them and make live worst which is != idea of equvalent tax.

[Atdhe]

Someone taxed your english really heavily so it is hard to understand (and my english is far from perfect).

Sure there will be always taxable goods. But there will be less and less of them and many of BTC p2p transactions will not be those. If governemnts want to keep the same income from taxes, they would have to raise the taxes of shrinking pack of taxable goods to sky, which will totally distort market and only support further tax evasion. It is not bearable for economy to tax houses 20% of their value p.a. or have 150% VAT.

Tax as equivalent of some goods, e.g. every person pays 2 goats and one rabit - nice idea, but that is too little for economies of most countries which developed social system, public healthcare etc.

[teukon]

I'd prefer your "lawlessness" equally for all, instead of just for those who can afford to bribe.

Unfortunatelly for you and for majority of people, reality is not what most people wish for. It never was like that and never will be. It will be even much less in BTC-economy, because it will be even more antidemocratic than recent systems.

Err... I'm pretty sure TheButterZone is not a big fan of democracy.

[TheButterZone]

I'd prefer your "lawlessness" equally for all, instead of just for those who can afford to bribe.

Unfortunatelly for you and for majority of people, reality is not what most people wish for. It never was like that and never will be. It will be even much less in BTC-economy, because it will be even more antidemocratic than recent systems.

Err... I'm pretty sure TheButterZone is not a big fan of democracy.

Correct. Whether it be one man/woman or the entire population of the world, their "vote" to murder an innocent is invalid.

[bf4btc]

"Protection taxes" aka bribes are already paid around the world to government officials by those who want to have the usurped privilege (when it's the fundamental human right) to effectively defend themselves. In spite of your beloved "laws" which only disarm and punish those who can't afford the bribes.

I'd prefer your "lawlessness" equally for all, instead of just for those who can afford to bribe.

The problem with this theory is that not everyone is able to sufficiently fend for themselves, and when they cannot do so, if taxes were not required then the government would have no way of protecting it's poeple.

[TheButterZone]

"Protection taxes" aka bribes are already paid around the world to government officials by those who want to have the usurped privilege (when it's the fundamental human right) to effectively defend themselves. In spite of your beloved "laws" which only disarm and punish those who can't afford the bribes.

I'd prefer your "lawlessness" equally for all, instead of just for those who can afford to bribe.

The problem with this theory is that not everyone is able to sufficiently fend for themselves, and when they cannot do so, if taxes were not required then the government would have no way of protecting it's poeple.

My theory does not exclude charity defenders, aka Good Samaritans (who the government destroys far too often). It is settled law that the government has no duty to protect anyone - and perversely, harms everyone far more often than it has the chance to protect them.

[pereira4]

If you ever go into a bad situation that you cant yourself solve you'll understand why paying taxes is good.

[TheButterZone]

If you ever go into a bad situation that you cant yourself solve you'll understand why paying taxes is good.

Like getting shot in the back by a government agent for walking down the street?

[bitcoinmining]

People pay taxes to create a good place for live (with services like hospital, police ecc.). But in many country this isn't possible. I would like to live in the North of Europe, where there is very civilization (and very beautiful woman  ).

Yes you're right Northern Europe's women are beautiful; but people don't gain what they deserve. When I was in Romania three years ago, it was devastating for me to learn that general practitioner doctor gains 800 Euro as a salary 

[goregrind]

People pay taxes to create a good place for live (with services like hospital, police ecc.). But in many country this isn't possible. I would like to live in the North of Europe, where there is very civilization (and very beautiful woman  ).

Yes you're right Northern Europe's women are beautiful; but people don't gain what they deserve. When I was in Romania three years ago, it was devastating for me to learn that general practitioner doctor gains 800 Euro as a salary 

If Romania was a Northern Europe country then your comment would make sense.