Bitcoinica stolen coin returns

[hazek]

the police, checking the pawn shops, will collect the stolen property and not provide any compensation to the pawn shop.

Is that suppose to mean something to me? Is what the police does somehow indicative of what should be done or more so what I should do? News flash I don't give a rats ass what violent thugs in a blue costume do or think I should do.

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[hazek]

but they are still States with legitimate authority.

if by legitimate you mean self asserted and enforced through the threat of violence, then you are right.

[hazek]

No! Godwin's law dammit! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

It's too late.  Luke wins the thread.  He is now your king and lawful ruler... amen.

Everyone BOW to the king or PERISH 4evahhh! 

[EhVedadoOAnonimato]

I found this: http://wbl.github.com/bitcoinanon.pdf

I read it once, and my conclusion is: I'm too ignorant in cryptography.
I just can't understand what's in that paper. I'll search if it has been discussed here already. By discussed I mean explained in a language mere mortals may understand.

I opened this topic about this subject: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82947.0

[Hunterbunter]

I don't consent to your "no murder" rule. Now what?

Btw we hired this excellent security firm that will use deadly force in case you try to hurt us to get any of the above stuff by using force.

How does that sound?

That's ok I just paid them more.

[Clipse]

Do not, I repeat, DO NOT send any of these coins to anyone involved with bitcoinica before bitcoinica reveal their endgame strategy.

There is decent speculation that they are planning to make a "run on the bank", if that doesnt happen then it would be the right thing to send them the coins accumulated from the hacker funded wallet.

[arby]

His reasoning is simple, he wants to be famous.

Bragging "hackers" (I use the quotes because he actually broke into an e-mail account) are the worse kind.

The good thing about it, is that they get caught first.

[mb300sd]

Thanks for the build, didnt get any stolen coins, but Ive been looking for a copy of 0.6.2 with coin control, without the security risks of running next-test 24/7.

[molecular]

Screw tracking coins!

I want bitcoin to be money. Without fungibility it is not money.

had to spew this somewhere, probably not the most appropriate thread. Can anyone point me to a fruitful discussion about this?

[malevolent]

Anyone know what happened after the linode hack? Linode was clearly responsible, I wonder if they covered the damages and repaid to Bitcoinica.

[giszmo]

Anyone know what happened after the linode hack? Linode was clearly responsible, I wonder if they covered the damages and repaid to Bitcoinica.

Off topic! Moderators do something!!

... meanwhile let me speculate with you: All hosting I know has regulation saying that you will not have to pay for days that their service is offline if that is above a certain percentage. None of them askes how much the service is worth running per hour and surely none of them cares if you put crypto tokens on it that can be stolen. Most likely if you want to off-load that risk, you would have to find an insurance and if I were an insurance I would certainly not insure bitcoins that lay outside of my influence. insure - steal -claim it wasn't you - profit.

[malevolent]

Off topic! Moderators do something!!

Wasn't sure in which Bitcoinica topic to post.

... meanwhile let me speculate with you: All hosting I know has regulation saying that you will not have to pay for days that their service is offline if that is above a certain percentage. None of them askes how much the service is worth running per hour and surely none of them cares if you put crypto tokens on it that can be stolen. Most likely if you want to off-load that risk, you would have to find an insurance and if I were an insurance I would certainly not insure bitcoins that lay outside of my influence. insure - steal -claim it wasn't you - profit.

Just read their Terms of Service here: http://www.linode.com/tos.cfm
I wonder if they were different prior to the hack? If anyone has a copy we could see if there is still any hope apart from seeing if their current ToS is valid according to law.

[kano]

Anyone know what happened after the linode hack? Linode was clearly responsible, I wonder if they covered the damages and repaid to Bitcoinica.

Off topic! Moderators do something!!

... meanwhile let me speculate with you: All hosting I know has regulation saying that you will not have to pay for days that their service is offline if that is above a certain percentage. None of them askes how much the service is worth running per hour and surely none of them cares if you put crypto tokens on it that can be stolen. Most likely if you want to off-load that risk, you would have to find an insurance and if I were an insurance I would certainly not insure bitcoins that lay outside of my influence. insure - steal -claim it wasn't you - profit.

It was an inside job - so that's different ...

[westkybitcoins]

the development of an alt-coin (double blinding signing) which makes such registries more such lunacy more difficult to implement.

Are you suggesting it is possible to combine eCash blinded signature with a decentralized blockchain, somehow? In other words, a fully anonymous p2p currency??
Please, explain a little more if that's the case. Perhaps open a new topic about it...

Yeah, it would be like magic. I mean Bitcoin is like magic sort of, but no double spending and no trail just seems like fairy tales. Obv I'm very interested if someone can explain how this could be possible.

I found this: http://wbl.github.com/bitcoinanon.pdf

I read it once, and my conclusion is: I'm too ignorant in cryptography.
I just can't understand what's in that paper. I'll search if it has been discussed here already. By discussed I mean explained in a language mere mortals may understand.

Interesting, but it's not good enough.

That paper details a method whereby the sender of coins can easily defraud the recipient(s), and simply shrugs it off because the fraud would eventually be detected.

[R-]

Nearly forgot about this one