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[klondike_bar]

So will we get S5 orders going b4 Xsmas?

My guess is after Christmas.  It is a guess so take it worth a grain of salt.   

right now the SP20 or SP31 are clear winners - Bitmain's prices have been stagnant for over a month while spondoolies has now come down to similar $/GH with about 20-40% better efficiency. The same spondoolies chip will easily keep pace with Bitmain down to 0.35W/GH, perhaps further

[Seketsuna]

I think those orders will be shipped after jan. 1, its been taking so looooong 

[Dexter770221]

You don't need to speculate anymore:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902305.0

[ChuckBuck]

You don't need to speculate anymore:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902305.0

Wow that's quite impressive specs in that form factor!  Bitmain has come along way in 1 year.  This same this year, they had the Antminer S1 at 180 GH/s on regular clock.

Now if they sell at the right price, they have a best seller once again.

[jackbox]

You don't need to speculate anymore:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902305.0

Wow that's quite impressive specs in that form factor!  Bitmain has come along way in 1 year.  This same this year, they had the Antminer S1 at 180 GH/s on regular clock.

Now if they sell at the right price, they have a best seller once again.

$450 USD

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201412220650169743S9QlmHx069D

[mavericklm]

how about 22dec?

YESSSSSSSS! 

[philipma1957]

You don't need to speculate anymore:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902305.0

Wow that's quite impressive specs in that form factor!  Bitmain has come along way in 1 year.  This same this year, they had the Antminer S1 at 180 GH/s on regular clock.

Now if they sell at the right price, they have a best seller once again.

$450 USD

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201412220650169743S9QlmHx069D

plus shipping and maybe 2 as a minimum.  so 450 + 450 + 100 = 1k for 2?

right now that would be a tiny bit better then an sp20.
  If I have to buy 2  and pay 1000 usd I may wait for batch 2.
I do have a batch 1 s-3  and it did a btc roi and a usd roi and is still mining as I type.  but it likes running at freq 212 and hash 425gh

  I need to know :
A) shipping
 B) min order
C) are they close to spec.

I can get my sp20's under .47watts a gh with 0 worries.

[spazzdla]

Seems like it has now just come down to which company you like, a good thing?

Competition keeps Spoodlies and Bitmain always trying to out do each other!!

[aclass]

Let's see if the price of S3 and S4 come down after the S5 is released

[AJinNYC]

Let's see if the price of S3 and S4 come down after the S5 is released

Probably not... the S5 is twice the price, and a marginal power efficiency and speed improvement over the S3. It's essentially two S3s in one body, without the water cooling of the C1, plus a marginal improvement in performance.

And really they just gave people a reason not to buy the C1. They just made their own product obsolete.

[spazzdla]

Let's see if the price of S3 and S4 come down after the S5 is released

Probably not... the S5 is twice the price, and a marginal power efficiency and speed improvement over the S3. It's essentially two S3s in one body, without the water cooling of the C1, plus a marginal improvement in performance.

And really they just gave people a reason not to buy the C1. They just made their own product obsolete.

The C1 was probably way to much for most people.  I have zero interest in taking care of liquid cooling.  I am considering the S5.

[raskul]

Let's see if the price of S3 and S4 come down after the S5 is released

Probably not... the S5 is twice the price, and a marginal power efficiency and speed improvement over the S3. It's essentially two S3s in one body, without the water cooling of the C1, plus a marginal improvement in performance.

And really they just gave people a reason not to buy the C1. They just made their own product obsolete.

The C1 was probably way to much for most people.  I have zero interest in taking care of liquid cooling.  I am considering the S5.

you probably want to shop around before you commit to that S5... we are moving into a dense time in mining and any rig bought now needs to be super-clockable up and down to stay profitable.

[spazzdla]

Let's see if the price of S3 and S4 come down after the S5 is released

Probably not... the S5 is twice the price, and a marginal power efficiency and speed improvement over the S3. It's essentially two S3s in one body, without the water cooling of the C1, plus a marginal improvement in performance.

And really they just gave people a reason not to buy the C1. They just made their own product obsolete.

The C1 was probably way to much for most people.  I have zero interest in taking care of liquid cooling.  I am considering the S5.

you probably want to shop around before you commit to that S5... we are moving into a dense time in mining and any rig bought now needs to be super-clockable up and down to stay profitable.

I am only running 1THash/sec.  I only mine as a hobby.  I have 1 S1 and 2 S3's mining away .  My S1 is for an Altcoin I love and my S3's are for bitcoin.  I like having my "vote" on the network.  I am tempted to get an S5 then I could shutdown the S1 and use one S3 on BTC and the other on the Altcoin I like.  Not sure though, I would like to keep my power draw under 1KW.  Although I suppose 1.3 Kw is pretty darn close but still.  I guess I could just run the S5 and 1 S3 and keep the other one as backup.

Although on the same page the heat the S1 gives off is amazing in these cold months lol, mind you slippers and sweaters are a solid and cheap counter to cold lmao.

[raskul]

Let's see if the price of S3 and S4 come down after the S5 is released

Probably not... the S5 is twice the price, and a marginal power efficiency and speed improvement over the S3. It's essentially two S3s in one body, without the water cooling of the C1, plus a marginal improvement in performance.

And really they just gave people a reason not to buy the C1. They just made their own product obsolete.

The C1 was probably way to much for most people.  I have zero interest in taking care of liquid cooling.  I am considering the S5.

you probably want to shop around before you commit to that S5... we are moving into a dense time in mining and any rig bought now needs to be super-clockable up and down to stay profitable.

I am only running 1THash/sec.  I only mine as a hobby.  I have 1 S1 and 2 S3's mining away .  My S1 is for an Altcoin I love and my S3's are for bitcoin.  I like having my "vote" on the network.  I am tempted to get an S5 then I could shutdown the S1 and use one S3 on BTC and the other on the Altcoin I like.  Not sure though, I would like to keep my power draw under 1KW.  Although I suppose 1.3 Kw is pretty darn close but still.  I guess I could just run the S5 and 1 S3 and keep the other one as backup.

Although on the same page the heat the S1 gives off is amazing in these cold months lol, mind you slippers and sweaters are a solid and cheap counter to cold lmao.

Just trying to help here...
In the image below you see the ASIC stats page of an SP20... Divide the calc number by 0.92 to get the ~w/gh at the wall... the SP20 already does what the S5 purports to be able to do.



ADD: i have the fan set at 30 and it's in the room next to my lounge.
I can't hear it from here (before the trolls begin to presume how loud this SP20 actually is).

[DevonMiner]

the SP20 already does what the S5 purports to be able to do.

True, SP20s are highly configurable ... up and down with power usage/per gh ... the S5 will be fairly fixed in its power consumption and hashing rate.

Would be interesting to know what db level the S5 sounds like ... The SP20 might look a little more expensive right now (Bitmain just dropped the S5 price in the last few hours) ... but the SP20 gives you room for movement and change as the market and your power supply dictates.

[raskul]

the SP20 already does what the S5 purports to be able to do.

True, SP20s are highly configurable ... up and down with power usage/per gh ... the S5 will be fairly fixed in its power consumption and hashing rate.

Would be interesting to know what db level the S5 sounds like ... The SP20 might look a little more expensive right now (Bitmain just dropped the S5 price in the last few hours) ... but the SP20 gives you room for movement and change as the market and your power supply dictates.

BitMainWarranty recently stated on the S5 thread that it would be highly advisable not to OC the S5.

so, it's ~1.1TH/s for 0.51w/GH and that's what you get

I'm not too bothered about the noise, after reading thru philipma1957's thread, i've found a very sweet spot for my SP20 that makes it unhearable in the next room unless I turn off the telly and tell the missus to sssshhhhhhh.

ADD: the missus never ssssshhhhhh's.

[mavericklm]

sp20 configurable up? i wnat to see a 1.8th/s sp20!

carefull with the s5! it should have come out from stock on 17 last month!
bugs maybe? .....

i'll wait for c2!

[raskul]

sp20 configurable up? i wnat to see a 1.8th/s sp20!

carefull with the s5! it should have come out from stock on 17 last month!
bugs maybe? .....

i'll wait for c2!

I concur, Sp-Tech should have had SP20 marketed at 1.5-1.6TH/s.
HOWEVER...  overclock and underclock are indeed superbly configurable, right down to the 0.001v

SP-Tech miner, you have to admit, no-matter what side of the fence you are on, have been and remain to be the highest quality miners on the market.

FYR... price...?

[mavericklm]

u cant use overclock in the same sentence with sp20, sorry

my first new bought miners are 2 sp20 and i hope they get fast here!

[raskul]

u cant use overclock in the same sentence with sp20, sorry

my first new bought miners are 2 sp20 and i hope they get fast here!

  i quite agree, and i'll reiterate.. 1.5/1.6THs would have held it in higher regard.. with basic medium settings you should get 1.5TH/s.. on turbo it should put it to 1.65TH/s... but if you go advanced in the config, you should be able to push it up to 1.68 or 1.69TH/s

I run mine at 500w and get 1.1TH/s.. pretty much what BMT are trying to sell with the S5, which is completely non-overclockable, as pointed out on their main s5 thread. to be honest it's a bit of a disappointment, but i'll buy a few to put on ebay.