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August 09, 2017, 12:01:33 PM
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2 weeks have past, and still nobody has managed to create a faster opensource signatum kernel based on your work. Stop trolling and show some skills.
I think you'd better write good code than make wars on forum.
Your skunk miner was already beated in terms of speed at least by CWI. Their miner completely beats yours in terms of CPU usage which is 0-0.3% usual, while yours uses 1-2-3-4 cores completely depending on intensity.
Your sp3/5 give ~231Mh/s on 6*1080 while CWI 250Mh/s. The same clocks.
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August 09, 2017, 12:07:01 PM
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no: GPL gives right of requesting the sources to everyone that has the binary, not just the copyright holder.
you, as a user of the binary, are not obliged to share it, but YOU CAN.

This isn't technically accurate - GPL is based on copyright law, and only the owner of a copyright has any right to enforce the terms of the copyright. A user with a binary can request the source code, but the obligation to distribute it is an obligation to the copyright holder, not the user. The user has no rights to enforce a copyright they do not own, and thus would have no standing to force distribution of the source code.

You are correct that under GPL a user an distribute a binary, but the user would have to be careful and be sure they actually received it under GPL. As I mentioned before, the copyright holder could enter into a separate license allowing someone else to distribute binaries without source code for a fee.

Again no, to both sentences.
You should read more about the GPL.
Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License

I edited to make clear I'm talking about enforcement, not just the right to request. Someone with the binary can request the source code, and has the right to receive it, but only the copyright holder can enforce those rights. (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhoHasThePower)

As for the second part, nothing prevents the copyright holder from releasing code under GPL, and then releasing a separate version under a different license for resale. But that right only belongs to the copyright holder - not anyone who received GPL-licensed software. They must distribute the code, or they are violating the copyright holder's rights under GPL.
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August 09, 2017, 12:26:54 PM
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sp_ why don't you just start your own self-moderated thread? I am sick of reading through looking for updates and tips/tricks and seeing people shitting on your obviously superior work and being all butthurt about it.

To those who keep crying about his work: how about you produce a faster binary than his (with an included fee) and everyone will happily switch to it and you'll make a ton of money?

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August 09, 2017, 12:46:33 PM
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no: GPL gives right of requesting the sources to everyone that has the binary, not just the copyright holder.
you, as a user of the binary, are not obliged to share it, but YOU CAN.

This isn't technically accurate - GPL is based on copyright law, and only the owner of a copyright has any right to enforce the terms of the copyright. A user with a binary can request the source code, but the obligation to distribute it is an obligation to the copyright holder, not the user. The user has no rights to enforce a copyright they do not own, and thus would have no standing to force distribution of the source code.

You are correct that under GPL a user an distribute a binary, but the user would have to be careful and be sure they actually received it under GPL. As I mentioned before, the copyright holder could enter into a separate license allowing someone else to distribute binaries without source code for a fee.

Again no, to both sentences.
You should read more about the GPL.
Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License

I edited to make clear I'm talking about enforcement, not just the right to request. Someone with the binary can request the source code, and has the right to receive it, but only the copyright holder can enforce those rights. (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhoHasThePower)

As for the second part, nothing prevents the copyright holder from releasing code under GPL, and then releasing a separate version under a different license for resale. But that right only belongs to the copyright holder - not anyone who received GPL-licensed software. They must distribute the code, or they are violating the copyright holder's rights under GPL.

an IP lawyer? ... have you even read the GPL? ...

here - let me help you with your non-conforming advice ( or non-advice as your post seems to be ) with the link - https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.en.html ...

pay close attention to the details - particularly to sections 4 5 and 6 ... where source is BY LAW part of the verbatim - non-verbatim - and modified distributed versions ...

sp ( rune ) is BREAKING THE LAW - by receiving PAID PURCHASES for products that he does NOT hold the copyright to - WITHOUT providing the source code to the modified source ...

while ive maintained my silence with all this hooha - i totally agree with you ( and so does the law ) that sp needs to EDUCATE himself on the meanings of certain terms and words of the english vocabulary ...

this link is to help rune understand what a donor ( what he calls 'donator' ) is and means ...

donor ( thats 'donator' to you sp ) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donor ...
donation - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation ...

and here is what you are ACTUALLY doing - and fooling everyone into thinking that they are 'donating' ...

purchase ( your meaning of 'donating' ) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing ...
buy ( also your meaning of 'donating' ) - http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/buy ...

being the sly conniving scum that you are - you will just ignore all these things posted and STILL think that you are doing nothing wrong ...

but wait a minute - redistributing the cuda90 dll to 'donators' too? ... isnt that breaking the nvidia license as well? ...

yup - sure does ...

just on that point also - as i know YOU rune - and alexis intimately ... have worked with both of you closely - and have watched and geared our business ( CWI ) to protect ourselves from scumbags of the likes of you - i can say this much ...

the difference between you and alexis is a chasm the size of the grand canyon ...

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August 09, 2017, 12:47:08 PM
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sp_ why don't you just start your own self-moderated thread? I am sick of reading through looking for updates and tips/tricks and seeing people shitting on your obviously superior work and being all butthurt about it.

To those who keep crying about his work: how about you produce a faster binary than his (with an included fee) and everyone will happily switch to it and you'll make a ton of money?

we have ...

here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2054431 ...

and further - if you prefer a thief and cheat to create your work - then you deserve what you get with him ...

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August 09, 2017, 12:55:36 PM
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sp_ why don't you just start your own self-moderated thread? I am sick of reading through looking for updates and tips/tricks and seeing people shitting on your obviously superior work and being all butthurt about it.

To those who keep crying about his work: how about you produce a faster binary than his (with an included fee) and everyone will happily switch to it and you'll make a ton of money?

i would say well said, but you have to think about the other side.
without the open source version sp_ mod wouldnt exsist.
i love open source and im all for it.
i wish i could code but each time i try to learn my brain explodes.
in a perfect world we would all work together and release everything opensource so we can advance from each other.
but all we do is fight and compromise each others work.

now we have a binary that really is superior to most others out there and if sp_ chooses to collect a really minor donation so i can enjoy this advantage.

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August 09, 2017, 12:55:59 PM
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does he need to open source it? no, he doesnt even have to provide us with updates or as a matter of fact some binary at all.
if it was about the money he would go to some china farm or btc whale and collect 1000btc from just one company with enough hashing power to roi in a couple of weeks

now is it the best thing to do? or the right thing to do?! arguing about it wont matter.
sp_ donators are very happy with their donation and all the service they get.

it still a long way untill we all work together.

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can you answer my pm i would like to know more about the tribus  mod
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and here is what you are ACTUALLY doing - and fooling everyone into thinking that they are 'donating' ...


i am sorry but i did donate.
i donated virtual money and got a nice virtual present in return.
bending the rules is not breaking the rules.
if he doesnt "break your law" here he can do it everywhere else.
but he is not. he is asking for donations for a private unreleased version of an open source miner.
well yeah, we all know thats not true, but dont hate the player, hate the game.
he got something everybody wants. why would he give it to you.
he is not obligated to help the community, but still he does.
maybe not in a way you would approve, but still donators are happy.

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August 09, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
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Hi!
Who bought and use sp-mod for bitcore (btx) on 1060 6Gb? Can u write me PM your hashrate? Thx!
2017-08-08 22:23:47] [S/A/T]: 2/2090/2099, diff: 3.380, 77.35MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:23:52] bitcore block 27340, diff 461.413
[2017-08-08 22:24:10] [S/A/T]: 2/2091/2100, diff: 21.077, 77.35MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:24:13] [S/A/T]: 2/2092/2101, diff: 0.697, 77.35MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:24:20] [S/A/T]: 2/2093/2102, diff: 0.278, 77.35MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:24:22] GPU#0:Zotac GTX 1060 6GB, 12.75MH/s
[2017-08-08 22:24:33] [S/A/T]: 2/2094/2103, diff: 2.481, 77.34MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:24:41] [S/A/T]: 2/2095/2104, diff: 0.236, 77.34MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:24:49] GPU#1:Zotac GTX 1060 6GB, 12.85MH/s
[2017-08-08 22:24:54] bitcore block 27341, diff 461.413
[2017-08-08 22:25:04] [S/A/T]: 2/2096/2105, diff: 0.353, 77.33MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:25:32] [S/A/T]: 2/2097/2106, diff: 0.258, 77.33MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:25:34] Stratum difficulty set to 44.2676 (0.17292)
[2017-08-08 22:25:34] bitcore block 27342, diff 461.413
[2017-08-08 22:25:39] [S/A/T]: 2/2098/2107, diff: 0.721, 77.32MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:25:51] [S/A/T]: 2/2099/2108, diff: 0.461, 77.32MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:26:06] [S/A/T]: 2/2100/2109, diff: 0.204, 77.31MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:26:09] [S/A/T]: 2/2101/2110, diff: 0.220, 77.31MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:26:12] [S/A/T]: 2/2102/2111, diff: 0.392, 77.31MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:26:27] [S/A/T]: 2/2103/2112, diff: 0.201, 77.31MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:26:31] GPU#2:Zotac GTX 1060 6GB, 12.87MH/s
[2017-08-08 22:26:43] bitcore block 27343, diff 461.413
[2017-08-08 22:26:51] [S/A/T]: 2/2104/2113, diff: 0.463, 77.30MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:27:14] [S/A/T]: 2/2105/2114, diff: 0.846, 77.30MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:27:15] [S/A/T]: 2/2106/2115, diff: 0.846, 77.30MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:27:18] [S/A/T]: 2/2107/2116, diff: 9.713, 77.30MH/s yes!
[2017-08-08 22:27:31] [S/A/T]: 2/2108/2117, diff: 0.332, 77.30MH/s yes!


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August 09, 2017, 01:53:11 PM
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and here is what you are ACTUALLY doing - and fooling everyone into thinking that they are 'donating' ...


i am sorry but i did donate.
i donated virtual money and got a nice virtual present in return.
bending the rules is not breaking the rules.
if he doesnt "break your law" here he can do it everywhere else.
but he is not. he is asking for donations for a private unreleased version of an open source miner.
well yeah, we all know thats not true, but dont hate the player, hate the game.
he got something everybody wants. why would he give it to you.
he is not obligated to help the community, but still he does.
maybe not in a way you would approve, but still donators are happy.

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wrong ...

you are PURCHASING a miner ...

do you not read? ...

donation is voluntary and in no way constitutes anything in return ...

you 'donate' ( ie - PAY ) for a miner ... that is a very different thing altogether ... a miner that he has created OFF the backs of other devs AND breaking the GPL licenses ...

whe someone says 'unless you 'donate' you dont get the miner' - that is NOT donation - that is BUYING ... and as such - he is liable and under - the laws of the governing state and country ... especially IP law ...

so regardless of how happy you are -or not - he IS breaking the law ... and it will catch up to him ...

i know - i use to be a huge backer of sp - until his true color were shown ... he not only breaks the law - but will eventually turn his back on you - and every one else ... especially when he calls all his customers ( yes - CUSTOMERS ) not donors ) all sorts of names and obscenities ...

i can swear like any one here - but to call what rune stensland is doing - LEGAL? ... you REALLY need to watch where this takes you - and take a VERY close look at it ... because if you condone this - and see it as not breaking international licenses and law - then how are you likely to be a moral decent citizen in everyday life? ...

i dont wish anything bad on you - but WHEN he kicks you and all his so called 'donors' - then ill be just looking on from the sidelines - as i take notes as to WHO has morals and decency here -
 and who doesnt ...

but this is why you wouldnt understand the differences ... turning a blind eye to it - does NOT mean he is not doing anything wrong ...

#crysx

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August 09, 2017, 02:10:52 PM
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I get donations and continue to update the miner for free.

I could sell my work to bigger farms and earn alot of bitcoins. I have plenty of offers.

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August 09, 2017, 02:27:38 PM
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I think we wasting our time here.


If you dont like SP there are 3 ways to "Destroy" Him,

1. Create something equaliy good or better With Lower fees than him  or for free

 2 Find hackes to break into his code

 3 Earn His Trust buy(or group buy) his miners and spread them for free


till then we are wasting our time here,  Btw Yes ok I understand the Claymore thing

Genoil improved hashes for 1060,  Claymore a day later  used it and Now all Eth hashers are hashing more (Hence getting exactly the same ) and he gets 2%  I really do understand what is happening but the question is what can you do about it?  Well simple "Break the rules" and be honest about it.


Someone made a thread Claymore no fee miner  thats how you do it,   Btw If i was Genoil and made an improvement on 1060 i would Close source it and then Post it for free so that Claymore or others wont take his work and gain from it
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August 09, 2017, 02:51:47 PM
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There is alot of coordinated Head activity in my thread today. Green team? Red Team? Blue Team? Black Team? Alpha team?

Stop bitching and start coding..

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I WOKE UP TODAY HUNGOVER--

And, when tending my miners, started reading my favorite blogs.  FOUR UNREAD PAGES on my top favorite mining blog, spMOD.  GADZOOKS!  Well, I also read CryptoMining-Blog's latest post, downloaded Epsylon3's latest Signatum (SIGT) build, and my 1080ti is mining SIGT at 52MH/s with stock clocks and "-i 25".  No errors, no rejects yet, on Win 7 x64.  Faster than spMOD v5 (and the others) and PalginMod SIGT CCminers.

So, while everyone was arguing, Epsylon3 dished out some more smooth, checked and tested FOSS (Free Open Source Software).  And, yes, I got a pirated copy of sp_'s version that was clean, ran it on YIIMP long enough to earn 1 SIGT, and then went back to mining Equihash.  Epsylon3's "krnlx" build is faster.

I'll save spMOD v5 along with my collection of old BBS system software and pirated Pascal v7.  Somewhere on a floppy.  Anyone want to buy a super 1337 9600 baud modem?       --scryptr

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Epsylon3's miner, where can i found?
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but this is why you wouldnt understand the differences ... turning a blind eye to it - does NOT mean he is not doing anything wrong ...

#crysx

doing anything wrong?
who does he hurt? anyone feeling scamed? crime?
smuggle human, sell drugs, provide gunpower?

the law you try to cling on never had any real meaning in the virtual world, the internet and it never will.
it was made by greedy individuals, not to protect intellectual property, its to maximise profit.

but im sure you are one of those people that say streaming a pirate movie is stealing and not free advertising.

im just saying how it is, you can hate it or love it, sh*t is gone happen anyway.

sorry sp_ love the topic and rasing my onion count while trolling, done now Smiley

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August 09, 2017, 03:32:12 PM
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but this is why you wouldnt understand the differences ... turning a blind eye to it - does NOT mean he is not doing anything wrong ...

#crysx

doing anything wrong?
who does he hurt? anyone feeling scamed? crime?
smuggle human, sell drugs, provide gunpower?

the law you try to cling on never had any real meaning in the virtual world, the internet and it never will.
it was made by greedy individuals, not to protect intellectual property, its to maximise profit.

but im sure you are one of those people that say streaming a pirate movie is stealing and not free advertising.

im just saying how it is, you can hate it or love it, sh*t is gone happen anyway.

sorry sp_ love the topic and rasing my onion count while trolling, done now Smiley

hehehe ...

and it is this mentality that allows such disgraceful behaviour to continue ...

regardless of the outcome - there are those ( especially the real devs of the community ) that find it appalling to see such blatant disregard for the code of opensource - and code of ethics - flushed down the gurgler for a few bits of hashrate to pleasure your senses and make you feel like its all good and right because he seems to be NOT hurting anyone - while filling his pockets in a dishonest manner ...

all good ...

you dont know of the history sp and i share - and im sure he will just jump on and say something ridiculous and palm it off as a 'nothing' ... but i can assure you that anyone that has his hands soaked in others green from their pockets - in an ongoing dishonest manner - will get what coming to them sooner or later ...

BUT in saying that - it obviously falls on deaf ears - as people like you have no issue with those that break the LAW created by these greedy people you speak of ... a LAW that is written to protect intellectual property - not just pirated movies ...

in fact - the issue here really isnt sp and his ripping code off - and making money from it ... the issue here is that the authorities havent policed it ... or are they watching right now - allowing enough rope to hang him with? ... id be curious to know ...

this is not a lynching - this is the cleaning up of vagrancy in the extreme when it comes to the desecration of other peoples work - and profiteering from it illegally ...

ill get back to you with this real issue at a later date ...

if i find anyone policing anything in this software arena ...

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You miss a enter between each sentence.

Anyway. I am launching a new coin soon with a new algo. Pure POW, no bullshit.
Opensource cpu and NVIDIA miner will be included at launch. No premine. Fair blockreward.
Make sure you reserve a seat on the skytrain, and mine with me and support my coin.


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You miss a enter between each sentence.

Anyway. I am launching a new coin soon with a new algo. Pure POW, no bullshit.
Opensource cpu and NVIDIA miner will be included at launch. No premine. Fair blockreward.
Make sure you reserve a seat on the skytrain, and mine with me and support my coin.



Can't wait to optimise and sell it LoL!

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