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November 05, 2014, 04:55:14 PM
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ITO end at midnight, but in which city / time zone?

IDK anymore.  The OP says it ends at 23:59:00 EST on November 5th, which is in about 12 hours and 4 minutes.

But then the tweet from a page or so back says it ends at 7:59:59 GMT tomorrow which is 15 hours and 4 minutes from now.
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November 05, 2014, 04:55:23 PM
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ITO end at midnight, but in which city / time zone?

It'll end in about 6 hours

No, it ends in 15 hours.

23:59:59 PDT 5 November

08:00 GMT 6 November

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November 05, 2014, 04:57:58 PM
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ITO end at midnight, but in which city / time zone?

It'll end in about 6 hours

No, it ends in 15 hours.

23:59:59 PDT 5 November

08:00 GMT 6 November

No, the official released document said 23:59:00 EST on November 5th not PDT
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November 05, 2014, 04:58:02 PM
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ITO end at midnight, but in which city / time zone?

It'll end in about 6 hours

No, it ends in 15 hours.

23:59:59 PDT 5 November

08:00 GMT 6 November

* The ITO will run for 7 days beginning October 29, 2014 at 5am PDT and ending on November 5th 23:59:59 PDT

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November 05, 2014, 05:01:50 PM
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they did not change anything you are saying the same as it is written above

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November 05, 2014, 05:02:21 PM
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For anyone still wondering about Dan's ability to code, I have had a private discussion with Xander Shepard recently. He does the Linux builds for XC and is listed on the XC team roster on the official website.

He has seen the private github repository and has verified with me that Dan makes very regular commits and that he is indeed a skilled coder with the experience he says he has.

I just wanted to help clarify this matter.



We do know that he paid loljosh to create XC. He's never publicly admitted it.

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For LolJosh's involvement, he assisted in some of the original QT work and as you can see he didn't start offering an X11/PoS coin until after x11coin was released

(just posting this because its not like it's a secret)


He paid loljosh for a standard PoS clone, which Dan then turned into the unique thing that XC is. Loljosh does not have the skills to create anything like XC.

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November 05, 2014, 05:11:03 PM
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ITO end at midnight, but in which city / time zone?

It'll end in about 6 hours

No, it ends in 15 hours.

23:59:59 PDT 5 November

08:00 GMT 6 November

No, the official released document said 23:59:00 EST on November 5th not PDT

The text in the OP says:

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The ITO will run for 7 days beginning October 29, 2014 at 5am PDT and ending on November 5th 23:59:59 PDT

The official PDF says:

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The Blocknet's ITO will begin on 05:00 EST, Oct 29th, and end at 23:59:00 EST on November 5th.

I can guarantee that the ITO did not start at 5am PDT since that is 8am EST and I bought Block at 5am EST.
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November 05, 2014, 05:15:02 PM
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ITO end at midnight, but in which city / time zone?

It'll end in about 6 hours

No, it ends in 15 hours.

23:59:59 PDT 5 November

08:00 GMT 6 November

No, the official released document said 23:59:00 EST on November 5th not PDT

The text in the OP says:

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The ITO will run for 7 days beginning October 29, 2014 at 5am PDT and ending on November 5th 23:59:59 PDT

The official PDF says:

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The Blocknet's ITO will begin on 05:00 EST, Oct 29th, and end at 23:59:00 EST on November 5th.

I can guarantee that the ITO did not start at 5am PDT since that is 8am EST and I bought Block at 5am EST.

Bittrex has announced that their close time is 23:59:59 PDT.

Since they've announced this time, it is unfair on investors to now change it to an earlier time.

Therefore the close time is now 23:59:59 PDT. The OP will be updated to reflect this.

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November 05, 2014, 05:19:52 PM
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I've got 2 issues at the moment - hopefully some of you know the answer Smiley.

a) My wallet isn't synchronizing anymore (and thus not staking)
It just goes to 88% and then it stops, keeps hanging there.
Restarted and tried 'repairwallet'

b) on Bittrex BLOCKS is still disabled. You can buy and sell but you can't transfer it to an address (or put BLOCKS into bittrex for that matter)
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November 05, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
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hmm bought another 7k BLOCK on polo today ranging from 23k-22.334 hoping my other wall would be filled by now, but prices went up, damn :/
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November 05, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
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I've got 2 issues at the moment - hopefully some of you know the answer Smiley.

a) My wallet isn't synchronizing anymore (and thus not staking)
It just goes to 88% and then it stops, keeps hanging there.
Restarted and tried 'repairwallet'

b) on Bittrex BLOCKS is still disabled. You can buy and sell but you can't transfer it to an address (or put BLOCKS into bittrex for that matter)

a) copy/backup your wallet.dat file to safe place , remove your blocknet folder from app\roaming\ and run the wallet to download the blockchain again

b) https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203325664-BlockNet-ITO-What-happened-and-next-steps-

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November 05, 2014, 05:26:54 PM
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November 05, 2014, 05:27:44 PM
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b) on Bittrex BLOCKS is still disabled. You can buy and sell but you can't transfer it to an address (or put BLOCKS into bittrex for that matter)

You can buy at the ITO price.  You can not currently sell or transfer any Block to or from Bittrex during the ITO.

After the ITO is complete, if you bought Block on Bittrex, you will have 48 hours to sell them back at the ITO price if you so desire.  During this 48 hour window, you can not transfer Block to or from Bittrex.

After the 48 hour sell back period, you can actively trade Block on Bittrex.
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November 05, 2014, 05:27:48 PM
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I've got 2 issues at the moment - hopefully some of you know the answer Smiley.

a) My wallet isn't synchronizing anymore (and thus not staking)
It just goes to 88% and then it stops, keeps hanging there.
Restarted and tried 'repairwallet'

b) on Bittrex BLOCKS is still disabled. You can buy and sell but you can't transfer it to an address (or put BLOCKS into bittrex for that matter)

a).  Save your wallet.dat file and delete everything else from your Roaming folder.  Restart the wallet.

b) Blocks remains disabled on Bittrex until the official market opens.  This prevents withdrawals/adds to their wallets until the ITO conditions are met.  Also after the offering ends, there will be a 48 hr window where a BUY WALL will be set up, so those that want out can get out.    
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November 05, 2014, 05:27:54 PM
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183 lines of code?? c´mon...

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November 05, 2014, 05:38:51 PM
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The ITO is to fund development. Funds first, code later.

If people don't like this, they shouldn't buy BLOCK.

Nonetheless we created the Github repo early in order to build trust with the community. It's an open source project and we want to indicate this, and also allow coders to get involved if they want to.


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November 05, 2014, 05:43:25 PM
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For anyone still wondering about Dan's ability to code, I have had a private discussion with Xander Shepard recently. He does the Linux builds for XC and is listed on the XC team roster on the official website.

He has seen the private github repository and has verified with me that Dan makes very regular commits and that he is indeed a skilled coder with the experience he says he has.

I just wanted to help clarify this matter.



My view of the situation so far is this:

Dan is probably more of a networks guy than an A level crypto developer. Evidence seems to suggest he's paid tens of thousands of dollars for outsourcing. The break down of this exactly we're never going to know. I'd guess a lot of that money has been paid to Christan Howe and that he's done the vast majority of development for XC. With Dan possibly coming up with the ideas about the mixer and such. I'd bet that Dan is in fact very technical and does have a lot of specific domain knowledge in his professional field, but that he's not necessarily the lead developer type. None of this in itself is inherently bad.

We do know that he paid loljosh to create XC. He's never publicly admitted it, but we can see in that screenshot that we have the additional evidence for that now as well.

The problem as I see it is that his image has been cultivated to be some sort of crypto coding god. "One of crypto's best" as everyone likes to throw around. And XC has built a kind of cult of personality around him. This ways parlayed in to his "freelance" work with Prometheus, including the code reviews.

I will say this though: if XC ever actually goes open source, and their mixer does actually turn out to be as good as it's been sold to XC holders as, and Dan was the designer(but not the coder of it) then that would be a positive mark for him. If it's tested by third parties and the code is reviewed by experts, and it does what it says on the tin, then that would be a good thing. Until then though we have no idea, and I don't know why it hasn't been open sourced yet. Because a true decentralised trustless mixer would probably shut a lot of people up and provide some evidence that at least someone was able to design some legit tech.

Read the pastebin of the conversation between the SDC devs and the XC team: https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d

You'll see that Dan is way more than a "networks guy."

He's an "infrastructure developer", who "started back in the 80's[, and] outside of XC most of [his] work is mesh networking/development for IP over RF." He's a "full systems guy, the whole 9, linux through security and windows (ug)" and has done numerous secure systems for government and corporations.

He did not "pay loljosh to create XC". Neither is it true that he's "never publicly admitted it." He has.

He paid loljosh for a standard PoS clone, which Dan then turned into the unique thing that XC is. Loljosh does not have the skills to create anything like XC.

One thing everyone should realise is that two conflicting claims were presented in the smear campaign:
- Dan can't code
- Dan is a master coder and that's why Prometheus valued him so highly, and used him to create so many coins.

So let's just get this nonsense out of the way forever. Dan is a master coder. He's a uniquely skilled and highly experienced systems architect.

Importantly, being a systems architect means you don't have to work on all the low level stuff. You get other devs to create various bits and pieces for you. How else do you think XC has achieved such a ridiculous rate of development? Look at the timeline: it would take more than the 1000+ hours Dan has sunk into XC for one person to create all that.

Ahem... the Rev 1 mixer tech was open sourced. Go and look at it yourself.



You are quoting what Dan says about himself and saying because he said it that it is fact. Wow. Really?
Ask Kennedy/Green about his skills and you will get the same answer. But does that make it true?
A git means nothing. That could be pasted it. There is evidence that the use of british english is all over the github.
The other person being mentioned as proof that Dan is a master coder is none other than a xc team member.  Roll Eyes

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November 05, 2014, 05:47:29 PM
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For anyone still wondering about Dan's ability to code, I have had a private discussion with Xander Shepard recently. He does the Linux builds for XC and is listed on the XC team roster on the official website.

He has seen the private github repository and has verified with me that Dan makes very regular commits and that he is indeed a skilled coder with the experience he says he has.

I just wanted to help clarify this matter.



My view of the situation so far is this:

Dan is probably more of a networks guy than an A level crypto developer. Evidence seems to suggest he's paid tens of thousands of dollars for outsourcing. The break down of this exactly we're never going to know. I'd guess a lot of that money has been paid to Christan Howe and that he's done the vast majority of development for XC. With Dan possibly coming up with the ideas about the mixer and such. I'd bet that Dan is in fact very technical and does have a lot of specific domain knowledge in his professional field, but that he's not necessarily the lead developer type. None of this in itself is inherently bad.

We do know that he paid loljosh to create XC. He's never publicly admitted it, but we can see in that screenshot that we have the additional evidence for that now as well.

The problem as I see it is that his image has been cultivated to be some sort of crypto coding god. "One of crypto's best" as everyone likes to throw around. And XC has built a kind of cult of personality around him. This ways parlayed in to his "freelance" work with Prometheus, including the code reviews.

I will say this though: if XC ever actually goes open source, and their mixer does actually turn out to be as good as it's been sold to XC holders as, and Dan was the designer(but not the coder of it) then that would be a positive mark for him. If it's tested by third parties and the code is reviewed by experts, and it does what it says on the tin, then that would be a good thing. Until then though we have no idea, and I don't know why it hasn't been open sourced yet. Because a true decentralised trustless mixer would probably shut a lot of people up and provide some evidence that at least someone was able to design some legit tech.

Read the pastebin of the conversation between the SDC devs and the XC team: https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d

You'll see that Dan is way more than a "networks guy."

He's an "infrastructure developer", who "started back in the 80's[, and] outside of XC most of [his] work is mesh networking/development for IP over RF." He's a "full systems guy, the whole 9, linux through security and windows (ug)" and has done numerous secure systems for government and corporations.

He did not "pay loljosh to create XC". Neither is it true that he's "never publicly admitted it." He has.

He paid loljosh for a standard PoS clone, which Dan then turned into the unique thing that XC is. Loljosh does not have the skills to create anything like XC.

One thing everyone should realise is that two conflicting claims were presented in the smear campaign:
- Dan can't code
- Dan is a master coder and that's why Prometheus valued him so highly, and used him to create so many coins.

So let's just get this nonsense out of the way forever. Dan is a master coder. He's a uniquely skilled and highly experienced systems architect.

Importantly, being a systems architect means you don't have to work on all the low level stuff. You get other devs to create various bits and pieces for you. How else do you think XC has achieved such a ridiculous rate of development? Look at the timeline: it would take more than the 1000+ hours Dan has sunk into XC for one person to create all that.

Ahem... the Rev 1 mixer tech was open sourced. Go and look at it yourself.



You are quoting what Dan says about himself and saying because he said it that it is fact. Wow. Really?
Ask Kennedy/Green about his skills and you will get the same answer. But does that make it true?
A git means nothing. That could be pasted it. There is evidence that the use of british english is all over the github.
The other person being mentioned as proof that Dan is a master coder is none other than a xc team member.  Roll Eyes

So which is it Lee?

- Dan can't code
- Dan is a master coder and that's why Prometheus valued him so highly, and used him to create so many coins.

At least get the FUD to be non-contradictory.


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November 05, 2014, 05:48:20 PM
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The ITO is to fund development. Funds first, code later.

If people don't like this, they shouldn't buy BLOCK.

Nonetheless we created the Github repo early in order to build trust with the community. It's an open source project and we want to indicate this, and also allow coders to get involved if they want to.



You sir have my respect for all what You are doing here, but You can´t be serious with this statement. This is crypto and You generally asked for $1m.. I am aslo pretty sure that there was some statement that "most xbridge code is already wroten" in this thread, but I don´t have a time to dig for it.

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November 05, 2014, 05:49:27 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.msg9434389#msg9434389
Lies have been exposed? The truth was twisted by "sdc investors", who are using the old cinni em dev's for their SDC project, which is the same EM code in aero

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.msg9439093#msg9439093
Smurf,
isn't true that the same investors who quietly exited cinni after hiring dev's to implement the CINNI EM [and leaving the CINNI community to rot], are the same investors involved with SDC? And used the same cinni EM devs for SDC.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Dan

sdc dev is cinni dev?
uh-oh the true about this scam sdc/shadowcash is being exposed!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=847952.0

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