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November 03, 2014, 10:21:29 AM
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Never in other projects I saw so much FUD.

Why is this in Blocknet so?

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November 03, 2014, 10:26:13 AM
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Never in other projects I saw so much FUD.

Why is this in Blocknet so?


I would say it is very good sign Smiley

Don`t let them mess with your head

Someone just doesn`t want to see Blocknet on the market

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November 03, 2014, 10:27:15 AM
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Never in other projects I saw so much FUD.

Why is this in Blocknet so?



Cause Supernet can't afford to let Blocknet to succeed....  They know Blocknet is far superior.

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November 03, 2014, 10:41:11 AM
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Question for people who don't plan to accept Bittrex's refund offer:

You've all been asking for facts to prove the so called 'FUD' that Dan was behind Halcyon. Many of you(including myself) asked Dan straight up whether or not he was involved and he repeatedly denied it.

If by 'public information' it meant that people in this inner circle of Prometheus and other people in the know knew that he was the guy behind Halcyon then that's pretty weak. [No, code reviews were announced publicly in the XC thread and occasionally in press releases.]



Your answers are in bold:


I wanted to make a clear and concise statement about all of this mud slinging going around....

As everybody involved with XC's knows I did numerous freelance projects, some of which Prometheus was involved in, like KeyOS and Halc.  Yesterday I was so frustrated with everything that was ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE [stated on twitter and in the XC OP/ANN] being portrayed as some type of scam.. Accusing me of being Prometheus, accusing me of being the dev. of numerous coins and half the coins in blocknet...that I simply answered no to any and all questions.   None of these allegations are true, I am DAN METCALF and I have never used any other account than ATCSECURE on this forum.  Nor did I ever participate into any scam's, nor would I ever...  the comments about XC's POW being stopped because I was paid off is a complete fabrication.

What I find most interesting about this amount of FUD is that all the information was already public, and to think that I have all these alias's on this forum is complete insanity.

My full statement on the matter can be viewed at http://www.atcsecure.com/blog/Official_Statement.pdf


Also blocknet's assets and funds will be held in escrow and released as development progress's.  Blocknet is not a scam, but a legitimate project and proof of concept code will be available shortly.


Sincerely,

Dan Metcalf




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November 03, 2014, 10:44:38 AM
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Never in other projects I saw so much FUD.

Why is this in Blocknet so?



Cause Supernet can't afford to let Blocknet to succeed....  They know Blocknet is far superior.

Exactly, and it also seems that some do not want to reach the 2 500 BTC to have more %
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November 03, 2014, 10:47:30 AM
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What happens with the BLOCK bought on poloniex ?
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November 03, 2014, 10:49:37 AM
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What happens with the BLOCK bought on poloniex ?

sell them? The market is open AFAIK.

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November 03, 2014, 10:50:16 AM
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Crypto Boh = Mr. Boh = Pookielax31 from shadowcoin/shadowcash community

I'd like to be clear that I have nothing against ShadowCash as a technology (i.e. I think it is legit) and I also have nothing against its developer, Rynomster. In fact, my experience of him is that he's a nice guy.

The smear campaign we've all witnessed has been planned and propagated by a bunch of SDC bagholders/pumpers. The dev team is not implicated at all as far as I'm aware.



Just to flesh out the claim I've just made, about three weeks ago I was notified that this smear campaign was being planned.

I had access to the screenshots that were leaked a few days ago. Oddly enough they were presented back then as pastebins of IRC chat logs.


Whatever these materials originally were, this smear campaign has been a long time coming and I have no reasonable doubt as to its origins.



LOL

Thanks for the heads up.

Oh, wait...

You left us loyal XC holders out to dry.

"This dumping makes no sense at all...it's so illogical."

It's clear you don't have our backs.

I'm done covering yours.

 Roll Eyes

I did not leave anyone out to dry.

What makes you think that the dumping *prior* to the start of this smear campaign was related to some trolls making up a pile of internet trash?

But the real issue here is the matter of my "having your backs." I'm done nannying the XC community. Nannying doesn't respect you as adults and it places an intolerable tax on my time.

The general expectation that people have some sort of right to information that'll help allay their fears is unfounded. I'm absolutely sick of being made to respond to every little piece of useless nonsense that's somehow made someone in the community worried.

Think independently. Recognise internet trash for what it is and ignore it. Do not stoop to the level of trolls by retaliating. If you can't master your fears then just get out.


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November 03, 2014, 10:52:34 AM
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Interesting project, lets see what is gonna happen  Wink
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November 03, 2014, 11:03:02 AM
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What happens with the BLOCK bought on poloniex ?

sell them? The market is open AFAIK.

Is it a joke ?

Market isn't supposed to be opened, and selling my share would immediately crash the price.

Why a buy wall on bittrex and not on poloniex? What is the official statements about that ?
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November 03, 2014, 11:04:23 AM
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What happens with the BLOCK bought on poloniex ?

sell them? The market is open AFAIK.

Is it a joke ?

Market isn't supposed to be opened, and selling my share would immediately crash the price.

Why a buy wall on bittrex and not on poloniex? What is the official statements about that ?

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/blocknet-ito-sale-bittrex-statement-poloniex-trading-rules-bter-trading-market

https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203325664-BlockNet-ITO-What-happened-and-next-steps-

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November 03, 2014, 11:07:56 AM
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What happens with the BLOCK bought on poloniex ?

sell them? The market is open AFAIK.

Is it a joke ?

Market isn't supposed to be opened, and selling my share would immediately crash the price.

Why a buy wall on bittrex and not on poloniex? What is the official statements about that ?

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/blocknet-ito-sale-bittrex-statement-poloniex-trading-rules-bter-trading-market

What means "The BlockNet team takes full responsibility for this occurance" ?
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November 03, 2014, 11:11:43 AM
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How is the price going to go up meanwhile if Blocknet is ready to be used in Q2 2015?
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November 03, 2014, 11:21:36 AM
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MrBoh and Longandshort are trolls that have spread FUD campaigns against several altcoins such as LXC and XST in the past.  Tranglee received word of their plan to discredit the BlockNET and destroy Dan's reputation on October 21st, days before this FUD campaign erupted.

Oh god this never ends with these guys. The 3 big 80% coin owners-bagholders of ShadowCash (pookie, trollsroyce and longandshort) overrode their dev's decision to break with trolling and cooperate with other coins by forcing him to remove SDC from the Blocknet. To take it even further they have begun subtle fud trolling of the blocknet. This will become more viceral and obvious as time moves on. It will peak with a website yes website they are building purely for the point of discrediting and fudding the blocknet and its founding coins. Who does that? Make a website replete with fake pastebin quotes, gifs, and other smear items, and fud threads? Wouldn't the resources and effort of this be better off to make zk-snarks work and promote SDC?

Seriously these guys must have small penis syndrome. Oh look XST,Fibre, Blocknet has a smaller penis than ours!  Roll Eyes

Mark my words this shit is real and you can quote this thread when they start their full on trolling of Blocknet and it's coins. Same for when the websit goes live. You heard about it here first.  Wink


Now here is more evidence showing that they conspired to destroy Dan's reputation for their own malicious purposes:
https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GkZ2H9tH


There is no denying that the evidence and facts are public knowledge regarding Dan, XC, and BlockNET... but are you really going to let these trolls, who have a reputation of FUD campaigns, interpret that information for you?  It is clear what their objective is.  

Well this is something.

An opponent of the Blocknet just validated the pastebin that winteriscoming5 posted above:

Check this out:





Here's the incriminating pastebin:






And here's a clone of it just in case someone deletes it: https://artikel-140.nl/bin/?d3c334bdb593cdec#CIjbr05jDkGDyFHk0YGl64PWwPU4bTAKaYY/Bjvgmio=





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November 03, 2014, 11:25:17 AM
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How is the price going to go up meanwhile if Blocknet is ready to be used in Q2 2015?

Why would anyone invest to sell it at lower price ? market trading and manipulation will occur of course as always to get more tokens

You will be able to follow the progress on each stage

BlockNet is long term advanced project - The Blocknet – an “internet of blockchains” – is a decentralised application platform built upon a revolution in
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I think people need to start realizing that they are investing in something more than a coin


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November 03, 2014, 11:37:41 AM
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wow just bought BLOCK on polo under 0.0002BTC, WTF!?  Shocked
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November 03, 2014, 11:40:45 AM
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How is the price going to go up meanwhile if Blocknet is ready to be used in Q2 2015?

Why would anyone invest to sell it at lower price ?

If selling happens only at the exact ITO price, you have to be the first sell order in the wall so the tokens bought will be yours. So if you want to sell in reasonable time, you have to set the price lower.

And also, tokens have been bought with lower price, so people selling lower than ITO might still be profiting. Especially if the tokens were bought with an illiquid altcoin on downtrend by someone holding huge amounts of them.
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November 03, 2014, 11:42:36 AM
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@Synechist

You appear to be responding to this drama with triumphant declarations that fail to actually support your argument in any way.

Your immediate reaction was to claim that "logs can be faked", yet you haven't provided any actual evidence that shows the logs were faked and, what is more, you allude to having logs of a couple of conversations that could 'vouch' for Prometheus, but you're not actually posting them.

Surely if you had actual evidence to either dismiss the allegations or, for that matter, support the credibility of those you are trying to defend, why simply continue to talk about it and not actually show it?


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November 03, 2014, 11:46:56 AM
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MrBoh and Longandshort are trolls that have spread FUD campaigns against several altcoins such as LXC and XST in the past.  Tranglee received word of their plan to discredit the BlockNET and destroy Dan's reputation on October 21st, days before this FUD campaign erupted.

Oh god this never ends with these guys. The 3 big 80% coin owners-bagholders of ShadowCash (pookie, trollsroyce and longandshort) overrode their dev's decision to break with trolling and cooperate with other coins by forcing him to remove SDC from the Blocknet. To take it even further they have begun subtle fud trolling of the blocknet. This will become more viceral and obvious as time moves on. It will peak with a website yes website they are building purely for the point of discrediting and fudding the blocknet and its founding coins. Who does that? Make a website replete with fake pastebin quotes, gifs, and other smear items, and fud threads? Wouldn't the resources and effort of this be better off to make zk-snarks work and promote SDC?

Seriously these guys must have small penis syndrome. Oh look XST,Fibre, Blocknet has a smaller penis than ours!  Roll Eyes

Mark my words this shit is real and you can quote this thread when they start their full on trolling of Blocknet and it's coins. Same for when the websit goes live. You heard about it here first.  Wink


Now here is more evidence showing that they conspired to destroy Dan's reputation for their own malicious purposes:
https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GkZ2H9tH


There is no denying that the evidence and facts are public knowledge regarding Dan, XC, and BlockNET... but are you really going to let these trolls, who have a reputation of FUD campaigns, interpret that information for you?  It is clear what their objective is.  

Well this is something.

An opponent of the Blocknet just validated the pastebin that winteriscoming5 posted above:

Check this out:





Here's the incriminating pastebin:






And here's a clone of it just in case someone deletes it: https://artikel-140.nl/bin/?d3c334bdb593cdec#CIjbr05jDkGDyFHk0YGl64PWwPU4bTAKaYY/Bjvgmio=







So they exposed the truth about Dan.

How does the fact that this information leak was premeditated take away from the fact that it's all now confirmed to be genuine?

They wanted to find an honest journalist who would be willing to write a truthful article which would expose the facts. Now they don't seem like a particularly honest bunch themselves but it seems they were part of this "inner circle" and knew what was behind XC and Blocknet. They knew exposing the truth would save people money, so I can't really fault them for that. These lines in particular are interesting:

9:52 AM <•MrBoh> coindada said the devs are all planing on making abusrd btc offf this
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9:54 AM <•MrBoh> he seems worried its gonna backfire on him though
9:54 AM <•MrBoh> the way hes talking... saying "if we can pul it off"
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9:58 AM <•MrBoh> just think its fucked people gonan get burnt hard on blocknet

You drawing attention to the fact that people from Shadowcoin were behind this info leak just sounds like an attempt to divert attention away from the fact that all these things that you were refusing to acknowledge as genuine and dismissing as baseless "FUD" are true.

You seem like you're trying to imply that because they potentially have something to gain from the downfall of XC and Blocknet(they are a competing coin after all) that everything that's been confirmed to be true now by Dan and Prometheus themselves should be discarded. I don't follow that logic.
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November 03, 2014, 11:57:43 AM
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@Synechist

You appear to be responding to this drama with triumphant declarations that fail to actually support your argument in any way.

Your immediate reaction was to claim that "logs can be faked", yet you haven't provided any actual evidence that shows the logs were faked and, what is more, you allude to having logs of a couple of conversations that could 'vouch' for Prometheus, but you're not actually posting them.

Surely if you had actual evidence to either dismiss the allegations or, for that matter, support the credibility of those you are trying to defend, why simply continue to talk about it and not actually show it?



"Logs can be faked"
- Umm... did you not see my post above? An opponent to the Blocknet with access to the SDC troll channel just validated the prior pastebin that winteriscoming5 leaked.
- Prior to this I was explicit that winteriscoming5's pastebin is no more verifiable than any of the junk perpetrated by the people behind the smear campaign.


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