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November 07, 2014, 07:33:13 PM
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Last time  I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s


I have copied their transaction history for BLOCK and put into Excel. Here's the stats as of 1 hour ago (without the 10%):



And without these transactions which were stuck at the start and processed manually too

http://wiki.blocknet.co/index.php/Addresses_of_Blocknet_Assets

I have also been through those wallet balances and compared them to the amount sold on coingateway:

Apex (APEX): AeBeaFvNbYPLKmUnZZyxoqSGzFL6uh9AUA
Balance: 325,608.09364232
Exchanged: 351,119.739
Difference: -25,511.64535768 APEX


BitSwift (SWIFT): bYMstRCJ7YCUqhm5A5Q9wvyNRYyL1RugSd
Balance: 191,963.70558638
Exchanged: 182,615.1011
Difference: +9,348.60448638 SWIFT


Fibre (FIBRE): FQ8KQJio7ncdMDKYDaBH4eV1bQaWP1ufAF
Balance: 26,262.23414526
Exchanged: 22,581.9797
Difference: +3,680.25444526 FIBRE


LibrexCoin (LXC): DSJZAgkYxsFoU7UdUtLxHVddg5NVvctCe7
Balance: 68,918.36344923
Exchanged: 48,484.9313
Difference: +20,433.43214923 LXC


StealthCoin (XST): SLcP3vckWKkZYdUuYw46b9vAXvWZ3xvsM9
Balance: 1,244,874.457323
Exchanged: 1,604,616
Difference: -359,741.542677 XST


UtilityCoin (UTIL): UaiwbBREPphtqNB832gVpLy4B5AFwwuBFX
Balance: 60,417.15863445
Exchanged: 55,974.39
Difference: +4,442.76863445 UTIL


XCurrency (XC): XXVTS3279gzC5kagTCrEe4x5R7urnm6h2b
Balance: 340,473.460578
Exchanged: 294,647.2546
Difference: +45,826.205978 XC

Sonic (SSD): (Still on exchange due to wallet sync issue)
Balance: ?
Exchanged: 960,198.4854


There's obviously been some staking on those wallets but some of those differences are quite large.
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November 07, 2014, 07:35:11 PM
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Last time  I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s


I have copied their transaction history for BLOCK and put into Excel. Here's the stats as of 1 hour ago (without the 10%):



And without these transactions which were stuck at the start and processed manually too

http://wiki.blocknet.co/index.php/Addresses_of_Blocknet_Assets

I have also been through those wallet balances and compared them to the amount sold on coingateway:

Apex (APEX): AeBeaFvNbYPLKmUnZZyxoqSGzFL6uh9AUA
Balance: 325,608.09364232
Exchanged: 351,119.739
Difference: -25,511.64535768 APEX


BitSwift (SWIFT): bYMstRCJ7YCUqhm5A5Q9wvyNRYyL1RugSd
Balance: 191,963.70558638
Exchanged: 182,615.1011
Difference: +9,348.60448638 SWIFT


Fibre (FIBRE): FQ8KQJio7ncdMDKYDaBH4eV1bQaWP1ufAF
Balance: 26,262.23414526
Exchanged: 22,581.9797
Difference: +3,680.25444526 FIBRE


LibrexCoin (LXC): DSJZAgkYxsFoU7UdUtLxHVddg5NVvctCe7
Balance: 68,918.36344923
Exchanged: 48,484.9313
Difference: +20,433.43214923 LXC


StealthCoin (XST): SLcP3vckWKkZYdUuYw46b9vAXvWZ3xvsM9
Balance: 1,244,874.457323
Exchanged: 1,604,616
Difference: -359,741.542677 XST


UtilityCoin (UTIL): UaiwbBREPphtqNB832gVpLy4B5AFwwuBFX
Balance: 60,417.15863445
Exchanged: 55,974.39
Difference: +4,442.76863445 UTIL


XCurrency (XC): XXVTS3279gzC5kagTCrEe4x5R7urnm6h2b
Balance: 340,473.460578
Exchanged: 294,647.2546
Difference: +45,826.205978 XC

Sonic (SSD): (Still on exchange due to wallet sync issue)
Balance: ?
Exchanged: 960,198.4854


There's obviously been some staking on those wallets but some of those differences are quite large.


The balances in the wallet are what was sent from coingateway on day #1, so CoinGW has additional coins waiting to be sent.


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November 07, 2014, 07:41:08 PM
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to buy with bitcoin or alts?


You can buy with the participating Coins.
https://coingateway.net

I want to buy, but i only have BTC Sad and participating coins don't have enough liquidity to buy

Try on Poloniex and Bter , some are still selling below the ITO price

I tried poloniex, no luck. Want to buy 3 BTC worth of it, no way it will get me filled, even a small portion doesn't work, someone else puts an order above me aswell

On Bittrex there seems to be some available for 0.00025001 and there is still some trading activity so if you put up an order for 3 BTC @ 0.00025001 it will probably get filled in a few hours.
However you will be able to withdraw your Blocks only in 2 days from now.
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November 07, 2014, 07:45:40 PM
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It's not fair we can't buy block with NHZ at coingateway. This should be fixed asap.

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November 07, 2014, 07:49:27 PM
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Last time  I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s


I have copied their transaction history for BLOCK and put into Excel. Here's the stats as of 1 hour ago (without the 10%):

http://s23.postimg.org/kodvhut6z/Untitled.jpg

And without these transactions which were stuck at the start and processed manually too

http://wiki.blocknet.co/index.php/Addresses_of_Blocknet_Assets

I have also been through those wallet balances and compared them to the amount sold on coingateway:

Apex (APEX): AeBeaFvNbYPLKmUnZZyxoqSGzFL6uh9AUA
Balance: 325,608.09364232
Exchanged: 351,119.739
Difference: -25,511.64535768 APEX


BitSwift (SWIFT): bYMstRCJ7YCUqhm5A5Q9wvyNRYyL1RugSd
Balance: 191,963.70558638
Exchanged: 182,615.1011
Difference: +9,348.60448638 SWIFT


Fibre (FIBRE): FQ8KQJio7ncdMDKYDaBH4eV1bQaWP1ufAF
Balance: 26,262.23414526
Exchanged: 22,581.9797
Difference: +3,680.25444526 FIBRE


LibrexCoin (LXC): DSJZAgkYxsFoU7UdUtLxHVddg5NVvctCe7
Balance: 68,918.36344923
Exchanged: 48,484.9313
Difference: +20,433.43214923 LXC


StealthCoin (XST): SLcP3vckWKkZYdUuYw46b9vAXvWZ3xvsM9
Balance: 1,244,874.457323
Exchanged: 1,604,616
Difference: -359,741.542677 XST


UtilityCoin (UTIL): UaiwbBREPphtqNB832gVpLy4B5AFwwuBFX
Balance: 60,417.15863445
Exchanged: 55,974.39
Difference: +4,442.76863445 UTIL


XCurrency (XC): XXVTS3279gzC5kagTCrEe4x5R7urnm6h2b
Balance: 340,473.460578
Exchanged: 294,647.2546
Difference: +45,826.205978 XC

Sonic (SSD): (Still on exchange due to wallet sync issue)
Balance: ?
Exchanged: 960,198.4854


There's obviously been some staking on those wallets but some of those differences are quite large.

The orders that were processed manually because of technical problems are not shown in the orders history at coingateway.net.
That makes the difference.
I know that because I checked after one of my orders was processed manually.
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November 07, 2014, 07:50:57 PM
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Last time  I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s

That's 455 BTC. How many BTC has been "inadvertently locked" and is selling now?

You own us the figure on BTER, then the propper callculation can be known how many total BTC has been sold. Why are you hiding these figures? They should be most transparent figures in ITO.

I am not with holding anything - I was waiting for exact #'s to be confirmed


BTER - 112.008634 BTC
CoinGW - 1,820,142.00 Tokens Sold [on first day] of 2000000
Polo - it is a mix of NHZ/BTC about 90btc worth total
Trex - TBD but I believe the # is at 282btc worth currently


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Dan

Regarding CoinGateway we have a figure quoted several times in the tables above of 1,392,748.27 (348 BTC) instead of 1,820,142.00. Which figure is correct? Is the difference "inadvertently locked" funds?

There's also the difference with reported figure from Poloniex, it was said 38 BTC sold, you said 90 NHZ/BTC combined. It's hard to believe NHZ sold for 52 BTC in this ITO. Both Poloniex, BTER or Blocknet developers haven't released a single press release with report what exactly happened, it's long overdue because ITO ended long time ago on both BTER and Poloniex. This is not a way to be transparent to the community, and just raises more questions.
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November 07, 2014, 07:52:35 PM
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It's not fair we can't buy block with NHZ at coingateway. This should be fixed asap.

NHZ was never on CoinGateway, it was on polo and it was sold out with in 2hours

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November 07, 2014, 07:56:26 PM
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Last time  I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s

That's 455 BTC. How many BTC has been "inadvertently locked" and is selling now?

You own us the figure on BTER, then the propper callculation can be known how many total BTC has been sold. Why are you hiding these figures? They should be most transparent figures in ITO.

I am not with holding anything - I was waiting for exact #'s to be confirmed


BTER - 112.008634 BTC
CoinGW - 1,820,142.00 Tokens Sold [on first day] of 2000000
Polo - it is a mix of NHZ/BTC about 90btc worth total
Trex - TBD but I believe the # is at 282btc worth currently


if anybody has a question that they feel is not getting answered in a timely manner - Please PM me


Dan

Regarding CoinGateway we have a figure quoted several times in the tables above of 1,392,748.27 (557 BTC) instead of 1,820,142.00. Which figure is correct? Is the difference "inadvertently locked" funds?

There's also the difference with reported figure from Poloniex, it was said 38 BTC sold, you said 90 NHZ/BTC combined. It's hard to believe NHZ sold for 52 BTC in this ITO. Both Poloniex, BTER or Blocnet developers haven't released a single press release with report what exactly happened, it's long overdue because ITO ended long time ago on both BTER and Poloniex. This is not a way to be transparent to the community, and just raises more questions.


CoinGateway will need to answer that part of question and/or I will need to get that from them as there was manual transactions done.


As for Polo, over 32Million NHZ were exchanged [you can check the balance] and polo didn't say 38btc sold [they said 38btc total sold but not all of it was from the ITO fund], it was lower, like 23.4Btc



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[2:54:02 PM] Jay CoinGateway: But right now we cant calculate that, you sent us 2Million tokens, and we sold a total of 1823928.80034 Tokens

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November 07, 2014, 08:01:54 PM
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to buy with bitcoin or alts?


You can buy with the participating Coins.
https://coingateway.net

I want to buy, but i only have BTC Sad and participating coins don't have enough liquidity to buy

Try on Poloniex and Bter , some are still selling below the ITO price

I tried poloniex, no luck. Want to buy 3 BTC worth of it, no way it will get me filled, even a small portion doesn't work, someone else puts an order above me aswell

Then there is a wall on Bittrex waiting for you 0.00025001 12828.35499136 3.2072

Hey i just got back, just saw it but there is rouphly 0.4 BTC available, has it been chewed already?
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November 07, 2014, 08:04:08 PM
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So we have confirmed numbers so far:
- Poloniex = 24 BTC + 32Million NHZ (how much is that in BTC?)
- BTER = 112 BTC
- Bittrex = 282 BTC left, refund still in progress
- CoinGateway = 348 BTC + 107 BTC "inadvertently locked" or anacounted or ...

Total = 766 BTC sold in ITO + 32Million NHZ (+ 107 BTC unclear state on CoinGatway)

Is this total what everyone agrees right now? Can somebody who has some official status in this mess confirm/deny?
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November 07, 2014, 08:05:01 PM
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to buy with bitcoin or alts?


You can buy with the participating Coins.
https://coingateway.net

I want to buy, but i only have BTC Sad and participating coins don't have enough liquidity to buy

Try on Poloniex and Bter , some are still selling below the ITO price

I tried poloniex, no luck. Want to buy 3 BTC worth of it, no way it will get me filled, even a small portion doesn't work, someone else puts an order above me aswell

On Bittrex there seems to be some available for 0.00025001 and there is still some trading activity so if you put up an order for 3 BTC @ 0.00025001 it will probably get filled in a few hours.
However you will be able to withdraw your Blocks only in 2 days from now.

This is what I would do if I were you.  You will get them, and it helps the project's bottom line.
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November 07, 2014, 08:07:00 PM
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Last time  I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s


I have copied their transaction history for BLOCK and put into Excel. Here's the stats as of 1 hour ago (without the 10%):



And without these transactions which were stuck at the start and processed manually too

http://wiki.blocknet.co/index.php/Addresses_of_Blocknet_Assets

I have also been through those wallet balances and compared them to the amount sold on coingateway:

Apex (APEX): AeBeaFvNbYPLKmUnZZyxoqSGzFL6uh9AUA
Balance: 325,608.09364232
Exchanged: 351,119.739
Difference: -25,511.64535768 APEX


BitSwift (SWIFT): bYMstRCJ7YCUqhm5A5Q9wvyNRYyL1RugSd
Balance: 191,963.70558638
Exchanged: 182,615.1011
Difference: +9,348.60448638 SWIFT


Fibre (FIBRE): FQ8KQJio7ncdMDKYDaBH4eV1bQaWP1ufAF
Balance: 26,262.23414526
Exchanged: 22,581.9797
Difference: +3,680.25444526 FIBRE


LibrexCoin (LXC): DSJZAgkYxsFoU7UdUtLxHVddg5NVvctCe7
Balance: 68,918.36344923
Exchanged: 48,484.9313
Difference: +20,433.43214923 LXC


StealthCoin (XST): SLcP3vckWKkZYdUuYw46b9vAXvWZ3xvsM9
Balance: 1,244,874.457323
Exchanged: 1,604,616
Difference: -359,741.542677 XST


UtilityCoin (UTIL): UaiwbBREPphtqNB832gVpLy4B5AFwwuBFX
Balance: 60,417.15863445
Exchanged: 55,974.39
Difference: +4,442.76863445 UTIL


XCurrency (XC): XXVTS3279gzC5kagTCrEe4x5R7urnm6h2b
Balance: 340,473.460578
Exchanged: 294,647.2546
Difference: +45,826.205978 XC

Sonic (SSD): (Still on exchange due to wallet sync issue)
Balance: ?
Exchanged: 960,198.4854


There's obviously been some staking on those wallets but some of those differences are quite large.

The orders that were processed manually because of technical problems are not shown in the orders history at coingateway.net.
That makes the difference.
I know that because I checked after one of my orders was processed manually.

The only manual payments from coingateway that I remember seeing were the 10% bonus for buying with alts? They said themselves that when they were recovering the wallet from cold storage that all transactions were fine and were recorded on the blockchain (which I assume is listed within their transaction log on their site).
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November 07, 2014, 08:08:15 PM
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So we have confirmed numbers so far:
- Poloniex = 24 BTC + 32Million NHZ (how much is that in BTC?)
- BTER = 112 BTC
- Bittrex = 282 BTC left, refund still in progress
- CoinGateway = 348 BTC + 107 BTC "inadvertently locked" or anacounted or ...

Total = 766 BTC sold in ITO + 32Million NHZ (+ 107 BTC unclear state on CoinGatway)

Is this total what everyone agrees right now? Can somebody who has some official status in this mess confirm/deny?


CoinGW: 1823928.80034 Tokens (455.9822001 BTC worth aprox.)
BTER:  112 BTC
POLO-BTC: 23 Btc
POLO-NHZ: 182,503.68 Tokens - (about 45btc worth)

Trex: 280 BTC (TBD at end)

Those are the current official #'s

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November 07, 2014, 08:09:05 PM
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to buy with bitcoin or alts?


You can buy with the participating Coins.
https://coingateway.net

I want to buy, but i only have BTC Sad and participating coins don't have enough liquidity to buy

Try on Poloniex and Bter , some are still selling below the ITO price

I tried poloniex, no luck. Want to buy 3 BTC worth of it, no way it will get me filled, even a small portion doesn't work, someone else puts an order above me aswell

Then there is a wall on Bittrex waiting for you 0.00025001 12828.35499136 3.2072

Hey i just got back, just saw it but there is rouphly 0.4 BTC available, has it been chewed already?

lol someone pulled it already Smiley i should have sent you pm Smiley

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November 07, 2014, 08:11:06 PM
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to buy with bitcoin or alts?


You can buy with the participating Coins.
https://coingateway.net

I want to buy, but i only have BTC Sad and participating coins don't have enough liquidity to buy

Try on Poloniex and Bter , some are still selling below the ITO price

I tried poloniex, no luck. Want to buy 3 BTC worth of it, no way it will get me filled, even a small portion doesn't work, someone else puts an order above me aswell

Then there is a wall on Bittrex waiting for you 0.00025001 12828.35499136 3.2072

Hey i just got back, just saw it but there is rouphly 0.4 BTC available, has it been chewed already?

lol someone pulled it already Smiley i should have sent you pm Smiley

thats too bad, i'll place my order at 0.000251 anyway, lets see what happens, waiting for btc to arrive
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November 07, 2014, 08:11:51 PM
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So we have confirmed numbers so far:
- Poloniex = 24 BTC + 32Million NHZ (how much is that in BTC?)
- BTER = 112 BTC
- Bittrex = 282 BTC left, refund still in progress
- CoinGateway = 348 BTC + 107 BTC "inadvertently locked" or anacounted or ...

Total = 766 BTC sold in ITO + 32Million NHZ (+ 107 BTC unclear state on CoinGatway)

Is this total what everyone agrees right now? Can somebody who has some official status in this mess confirm/deny?


CoinGW: 1823928.80034 Tokens (455.9822001 BTC worth aprox.)
BTER:  112 BTC
POLO-BTC: 23 Btc
POLO-NHZ: 182,503.68 Tokens - (about 45btc worth)

Trex: 280 BTC (TBD at end)

Those are the current official #'s

Dan


So that's a total of 915.98 right now, if no more refunds are taken on Trex from that wall.
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November 07, 2014, 08:12:06 PM
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The only manual payments from coingateway that I remember seeing were the 10% bonus for buying with alts? They said themselves that when they were recovering the wallet from cold storage that all transactions were fine and were recorded on the blockchain (which I assume is listed within their transaction log on their site).

Before they released 10% bonus transactions they were doing too manual transactions which were stuck earlier and were being sorted by support tickets , they weren`t recorded

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November 07, 2014, 08:14:16 PM
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The only manual payments from coingateway that I remember seeing were the 10% bonus for buying with alts? They said themselves that when they were recovering the wallet from cold storage that all transactions were fine and were recorded on the blockchain (which I assume is listed within their transaction log on their site).

Before they released 10% bonus transactions they were doing too manual transactions which were stuck earlier and were being sorted by support tickets , they weren`t recorded
Coingateway doesn't give 10% extra anymore.
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November 07, 2014, 08:16:43 PM
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Looks like it might fail. What a crying shame. Sad
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November 07, 2014, 08:17:25 PM
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The only manual payments from coingateway that I remember seeing were the 10% bonus for buying with alts? They said themselves that when they were recovering the wallet from cold storage that all transactions were fine and were recorded on the blockchain (which I assume is listed within their transaction log on their site).

Before they released 10% bonus transactions they were doing too manual transactions which were stuck earlier and were being sorted by support tickets , they weren`t recorded
Coingateway doesn't give 10% extra anymore.

10% discount was given at start , i don`t know if the discount is still available today

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