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June 13, 2012, 01:42:45 PM
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if I buy this: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/242098/lee-deluxe-carbide-4-die-set-45-acp

what other dies to I need for other calibers? does the decapping die work on handgun and rifle ammo?

I'm looking to reload .380-.45 and .223,.30-06

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June 13, 2012, 02:39:00 PM
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good deal here: http://shop.sigsauerguns.com/Accessories/Rifle-Bags/Sig-Sauer-GoBag-Black.html

normally like $120+

I just picked up a black one for my non-sig AR.
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June 13, 2012, 03:07:25 PM
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Thought a reloading setup costed 2-3k, so I never cared about it. $100 sounds nice for getting started! Just watched a couple vids on youtube to help get me started. Thanks guys! Will buy some of this stuff in the coming weeks.

So if I were to buy this: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/423081/lee-challenger-breech-lock-single-stage-press-anniversary-kit
I would also need to buy a die set, and shell holder, correct? (Obviously, would still need to buy manual, bullets, powder, and primers)

Shell holders come with the kit.

But you will need a caliber specific gage for case length sizing.

and a Die set.  Probably its best to start with larger handgun calibers the straight cases and large size make them easy to work with and you see the most profit from reloading the bigger handgun ammo too, especially the big boy calibers like .44 mag, .454 casull, .460 S&W, .50 S&W, .50 AE.  I started with .357, nice straight cases and easy to make a healthy profit, plus the dies can be used for .38 special also.

So to get started with .357 for example you'd need the kit +

case length gage http://www.midwayusa.com/product/318658/lee-case-length-gage-and-shellholder-357-magnum

dies (I like the 4 die carbide sets for handgun ammo) http://www.midwayusa.com/product/309802/lee-deluxe-carbide-4-die-set-38-special-357-magnum

and powder, primers, bullets, cases.
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June 13, 2012, 03:08:30 PM
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if I buy this: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/242098/lee-deluxe-carbide-4-die-set-45-acp

what other dies to I need for other calibers? does the decapping die work on handgun and rifle ammo?

I'm looking to reload .380-.45 and .223,.30-06



Start with .45 for sure.
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June 13, 2012, 03:15:13 PM
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if I buy this: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/242098/lee-deluxe-carbide-4-die-set-45-acp

what other dies to I need for other calibers? does the decapping die work on handgun and rifle ammo?

I'm looking to reload .380-.45 and .223,.30-06



Start with .45 for sure.

Can you explain the difference in bullet size .45? i see like 451 diameter, 452 diameter, etc. Will all of these work in my 45 acp 1911?
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June 13, 2012, 03:35:31 PM
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if I buy this: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/242098/lee-deluxe-carbide-4-die-set-45-acp

what other dies to I need for other calibers? does the decapping die work on handgun and rifle ammo?

I'm looking to reload .380-.45 and .223,.30-06



Start with .45 for sure.

Can you explain the difference in bullet size .45? i see like 451 diameter, 452 diameter, etc. Will all of these work in my 45 acp 1911?

mmm  you want .451 for bullet makers that differentiate ammo into .451 and .452, but if you see .452 that is 185-230 grain it should work.  Often with higher end larger (250 grain+) bullets .452 is for .454 Casull and .460 S&W.  

One of the best places to buy bullets, powder, primers online that I've found is http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/

To make 1000 .45s cheap (you can use plated bullets since .45s go so slow)  I'd get something like:

1000 Berry's .452s  185-230 grain pick whatever style you like, for Berry's the Round Nose or Flat point will probably cycle the most reliably.

1000 large pistol primers, I usually buy Winchester, but they are all pretty much the same.

1 lb of Hodgdon Universal Clays powder (7000 grains).  (~5.5 grains per shell) (I like universal cause you can use it for about any pistol round or shotgun shells)

So your looking at around $190 ( including hazmat fees + shipping) to your door, for the components to make 1000 rounds of .45, or 19 cents per round.

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June 13, 2012, 03:40:08 PM
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I don't see the Clays powder on powder valley. Am I missing it or is there another one I can use instead?
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June 13, 2012, 03:46:38 PM
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I don't see the Clays powder on powder valley. Am I missing it or is there another one I can use instead?

Hodgdon is the manufacturer, sorry Wink
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June 13, 2012, 06:09:32 PM
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Thought a reloading setup costed 2-3k, so I never cared about it. $100 sounds nice for getting started! Just watched a couple vids on youtube to help get me started. Thanks guys! Will buy some of this stuff in the coming weeks.

So if I were to buy this: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/423081/lee-challenger-breech-lock-single-stage-press-anniversary-kit
I would also need to buy a die set, and shell holder, correct? (Obviously, would still need to buy manual, bullets, powder, and primers)

Shell holders come with the kit.

But you will need a caliber specific gage for case length sizing.

and a Die set.  Probably its best to start with larger handgun calibers the straight cases and large size make them easy to work with and you see the most profit from reloading the bigger handgun ammo too, especially the big boy calibers like .44 mag, .454 casull, .460 S&W, .50 S&W, .50 AE.  I started with .357, nice straight cases and easy to make a healthy profit, plus the dies can be used for .38 special also.

So to get started with .357 for example you'd need the kit +

case length gage http://www.midwayusa.com/product/318658/lee-case-length-gage-and-shellholder-357-magnum

dies (I like the 4 die carbide sets for handgun ammo) http://www.midwayusa.com/product/309802/lee-deluxe-carbide-4-die-set-38-special-357-magnum

and powder, primers, bullets, cases.
Thanks. Was looking to reload 7.62x54r for my Nagant, but I can already buy Surplus ammo for $0.19/round. I was looking up buying .308 bullets and everything, and I estimated it would cost me $0.26/round if I reloaded (not including the Lee set). So I figure it's not worth it, unless I want to make some non-corrosive ammunition, and want a slightly better bullet. I will however be buying a Saiga chambered in .308, so I figure a round will cost me ~$0.70. Would be great to reload for something like that. Also, not really worth reloading for my 9mm. I can pick-up 100rds of 9mm Winchester at walmart for $24. So yeah, I will be looking to reload in the future once I expand my collection a bit more. But never the less, great info, and thanks!

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June 13, 2012, 06:16:11 PM
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Thought a reloading setup costed 2-3k, so I never cared about it. $100 sounds nice for getting started! Just watched a couple vids on youtube to help get me started. Thanks guys! Will buy some of this stuff in the coming weeks.

So if I were to buy this: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/423081/lee-challenger-breech-lock-single-stage-press-anniversary-kit
I would also need to buy a die set, and shell holder, correct? (Obviously, would still need to buy manual, bullets, powder, and primers)

Shell holders come with the kit.

But you will need a caliber specific gage for case length sizing.

and a Die set.  Probably its best to start with larger handgun calibers the straight cases and large size make them easy to work with and you see the most profit from reloading the bigger handgun ammo too, especially the big boy calibers like .44 mag, .454 casull, .460 S&W, .50 S&W, .50 AE.  I started with .357, nice straight cases and easy to make a healthy profit, plus the dies can be used for .38 special also.

So to get started with .357 for example you'd need the kit +

case length gage http://www.midwayusa.com/product/318658/lee-case-length-gage-and-shellholder-357-magnum

dies (I like the 4 die carbide sets for handgun ammo) http://www.midwayusa.com/product/309802/lee-deluxe-carbide-4-die-set-38-special-357-magnum

and powder, primers, bullets, cases.
Thanks. Was looking to reload 7.62x54r for my Nagant, but I can already buy Surplus ammo for $0.19/round. I was looking up buying .308 bullets and everything, and I estimated it would cost me $0.26/round if I reloaded (not including the Lee set). So I figure it's not worth it, unless I want to make some non-corrosive ammunition, and want a slightly better bullet. I will however be buying a Saiga chambered in .308, so I figure a round will cost me ~$0.70. Would be great to reload for something like that. Also, not really worth reloading for my 9mm. I can pick-up 100rds of 9mm Winchester at walmart for $24. So yeah, I will be looking to reload in the future once I expand my collection a bit more. But never the less, great info, and thanks!

You can save money reloading 9mm, but not as much as you can on other calibers.  If you use plated bullets you can reload 9mm for 12-14 cents a round  (if you cast your own, you can get it down to about 5-6 cents a round).
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June 13, 2012, 06:33:42 PM
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You can save money reloading 9mm, but not as much as you can on other calibers.  If you use plated bullets you can reload 9mm for 12-14 cents a round  (if you cast your own, you can get it down to about 5-6 cents a round).
Yeah! I was looking into buying my own furnace and everything, but right now I only own 4-5 firearms, and don't shoot them too often. But I'd love to be completely independent, and make my own stuff eventually.

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June 13, 2012, 08:20:44 PM
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Ok, I'm going to buy the entire loading kit and all the stuff I need to make my own .45 ammo. I will post some pictures and stuff after I get settled in to the new house.

I seem to have depleted everyones ammo supplies Sad

If anyone has ammo for sale, don't be shy!

Also if anyone has a five-seven pistol they'd like to sell, I'm interested.
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June 13, 2012, 08:36:26 PM
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Ok, I'm going to buy the entire loading kit and all the stuff I need to make my own .45 ammo. I will post some pictures and stuff after I get settled in to the new house.


Woot!  Have fun, don't blow yourself up Wink

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June 13, 2012, 08:44:45 PM
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The only thing I ever found worth reloading was my .50 beowulf.  even brass is on perpetual backorder.

I have reloading kits and supplies and such, but I only have it in case I have to.
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June 13, 2012, 09:17:24 PM
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Ok, I'm going to buy the entire loading kit and all the stuff I need to make my own .45 ammo. I will post some pictures and stuff after I get settled in to the new house.


Woot!  Have fun, don't blow yourself up Wink



is that possible?
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June 13, 2012, 09:22:24 PM
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Ok, I'm going to buy the entire loading kit and all the stuff I need to make my own .45 ammo. I will post some pictures and stuff after I get settled in to the new house.


Woot!  Have fun, don't blow yourself up Wink



is that possible?

Not really, modern smokeless powder isn't explosive.  If you accidently put a double powder charge into a case, things can get pretty crazy..



Specially in them there new fangled plastic pop guns.. Glocks methinks they call em..

Don't watch tv while putting the powder charges in Wink.  I find an ice cold beer or 3 helps to pass the time while reloading  Grin Shocked Tongue
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June 13, 2012, 09:28:33 PM
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Ok, I'm going to buy the entire loading kit and all the stuff I need to make my own .45 ammo. I will post some pictures and stuff after I get settled in to the new house.


Woot!  Have fun, don't blow yourself up Wink



is that possible?

Not really, modern smokeless powder isn't explosive.  If you accidently put a double powder charge into a case, things can get pretty crazy..



Specially in them there new fangled plastic pop guns.. Glocks methinks they call em..

Don't watch tv while putting the powder charges in Wink.  I find an ice cold beer or 3 helps to pass the time while reloading  Grin Shocked Tongue

that looks painful.
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June 13, 2012, 09:37:34 PM
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that looks painful.

Possibly even deadly. Don't let that scare you off though, you can do the same thing by putting you firearm back together wrong or not cheacking the breach/muzzle before loading.

Reloading yourself isn't just for saving money. If you ever get into precision shooting it's key. Weighing your own charge and bullet along with loting your own ammo will take you to the next level down range. Wink
Have fun and stay safe!

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June 14, 2012, 01:25:10 AM
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$800 for a .22 pistol is insane.  Figures Beretta would make one, the government version is probably $2k.

If someone would make an auto handgun that has three barrels in a equalateral triangle, with a triple wide, single stacked magazine, and eats 22lr; I'd love to have one.  The total impuse of three 22lr rounds at once is on par between a 380 and a 9mm, and with greater area trama that comes with the 'multiple tap' engagement stragedy.  And three standard 22lr rounds are often cheaper than one of either 380 or 9mm.

I'd like to see the same thing in a PDW, but that the barrels aren't quite parallel and the impact triangle pattern spreads out slightly.

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June 14, 2012, 02:36:39 AM
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anyone have a midway coupon?
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