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January 13, 2015, 03:16:57 PM |
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One thing is filing a complaint, another is accusing a company of being a ponzi, and randomly trashing its reputation when no harm was done; and even worse - non customers randomly trashing a business around and ruining its reputation - thats sabotage.
Keep doing what you are doing and you will end up with a self fulfilling prophecy, roaming around forums and posting false acusations on a business will destroy its reputation and scare away customers, and this will ultimatelly kill the business, it dies and yes if it died it must be a scam... sheesh Good. Cloud mining services that refuse to provide evidence of legitimacy deserve to die. If they were legitimate though, they'd still be able to pay their customers and wouldn't even consider running away with the money. They'd also be able to refute the false allegations.
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January 13, 2015, 03:25:45 PM |
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One thing is filing a complaint, another is accusing a company of being a ponzi, and randomly trashing its reputation when no harm was done; and even worse - non customers randomly trashing a business around and ruining its reputation - thats sabotage.
Keep doing what you are doing and you will end up with a self fulfilling prophecy, roaming around forums and posting false acusations on a business will destroy its reputation and scare away customers, and this will ultimatelly kill the business, it dies and yes if it died it must be a scam... sheesh Good. Cloud mining services that refuse to provide evidence of legitimacy deserve to die. If they were legitimate though, they'd still be able to pay their customers and wouldn't even consider running away with the money. They'd also be able to refute the false allegations. I guess it´ll be a moot point when everything goes belly up, legitimate or not. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi1213.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc466%2Fgaldur%2F13.png&t=665&c=9pIG5FJhJXT-nQ)
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January 13, 2015, 04:14:46 PM |
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I guess it´ll be a moot point when everything goes belly up, legitimate or not.
Meh, I've seen worse drops in exchange price.
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January 13, 2015, 04:19:06 PM |
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July 650, September 450, November 350, January 230, March...meh can´t happen.
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Mabsark
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January 13, 2015, 04:26:13 PM |
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July 650, September 450, November 350, January 230, March...meh can´t happen.
Meh, right after the 1st MtGox hack, June 2011, ~$32 to ~$1
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January 13, 2015, 06:41:14 PM |
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Let ATCkit post his address and number of GH he owns. Something is wrong with his numbers. I have 260 GH from the beggining and my address is 17A3gis3VSC5iymakjCmrQSmuYT6XvYkoB. At Dec 8 was my first payout, payout from Jan 5 is 72% of Dec 8. I have dissabled hold and autoreinvest. Maybe he has this turned on and thats why low payouts. ... Dexter also happens to be a far more active Hero member with a cloudmining.website sig. ...
You think that I have some favors becuse I'm active member of this forum? I'm present here for over 3 years, never had anything in my sig, till December. Why not earn something while posting, since my financial situation is worst for years... And I'm posting only facts, if you enter my address into blockchain you will see that every number is the same... No, I'm not accusing you of any wrong doing or anything. I'm saying you're better for advertising the service so it's good to keep you happy with the service. Like I said earlier, The payouts on Jan 12 was 68.65% of the payout on Jan 5 and the number of addresses increased by 39. You're payout should have decreased too, yet it didn't, it increased. I submitted a ticket and got a fast reply (in bold below to differentiate from my request): Re: much lower withdrawal on Jan 12 compared to Jan 5, 2015 ATCkit wrote: Hi Cloud Mining Website, My user Id is 2667. My BTC address: 1C5Nv1eBXhXP15Ep3ErZ3EjUzdJYszFK7e Compared to most of your customers, my withdrawals on Jan 12th are much lower. In fact, it was 48.2 % of my Jan 5th withdrawal. That's a huge decrease in one week. Why ? Jan 5: 0.03885774 BTC Jan 12: 0.01881513 BTC NOTE: there's an inconsistency as my payouts are lot lower percentage wise from the previous payout compared to other clients. That is evident when you compare my payout decrease to others on the block chain. For example: If you read the bitcoin talk thread, you will see that Dexter even agreed- given that neither of us increased or our hash power and both of us have the reinvestment boxes unchecked. i feel like CM.W are sending some of my payout to someone else :cry: Thx, ATCkit
Sent: Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:20 pm From: support Recipient: ATCkit
We are extremely sorry to know that your miners are not performing as per your expectation. The reason of different payout is different orders are mapped to different mining block of equipment and we give you what we get. May be for some order, the mining luck favored the customer and for some others, it did not. We dont have much to do about it. If you give it some time, you might see the favor of mining luck once again.
Thanks, Cloud Mining www.cloudmining.website
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January 14, 2015, 09:50:48 AM |
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What a bullshit answer. For argument's sake, lets assume they actually own any miners; surely they are pointed to a pool. Each miner will get exactly the same revenue per GH as any other miner mining the same pool. Thats what you have a pool for.
Not that it matters, because there is no hardware, this is just an excuse to pay out arbitrary sums to manage the ponzi.
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January 14, 2015, 10:45:58 AM |
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What a bullshit answer. For argument's sake, lets assume they actually own any miners; surely they are pointed to a pool. Each miner will get exactly the same revenue per GH as any other miner mining the same pool. Thats what you have a pool for.
Not that it matters, because there is no hardware, this is just an excuse to pay out arbitrary sums to manage the ponzi.
I'm sure u r one of the followers of that Puppet gawd, who is desperately trying to proof legitimacy of an ilegal service call HaveLock Investments. Anyway, if any logical sense is left to u, u'll check the FAQ of CloudMining.website, where it is clearly stated that they dont mine at any specific pool. Definitely, you'll come up with excuses why you dont bother check the FAQ... but I dont bother about that. I just wonder about 2 facts... i. Non customers are more interested now-a-days in cloud mining services than customers who actually paid and own some hash power. ii. The OP of this thread is a retard, not to delete any of the BS that is trying to disturb a business that is paying consistently for more almost 3 months. OP must know, that the Puppet gawd deletes any strong counter opinion that gets posted in his moderated HaveLock promotional thread.
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Mabsark
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January 14, 2015, 10:54:31 AM |
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[ANN] Jan 14th, 2014 - Umisoo, ANTS2, & ANTS3 Hardware Powered OffToday, at 08:05 GMT, all Hashnest Umisoo, ANTS2, & ANTS3 units were powered off, as their maintenance fee became higher than their payout. This procedure was previously outlined in this post https://forum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/969. At the moment, we are examining the situation to determine what further action will be taken. We will be doing our best to keep you updated with the latest information. As long as the machines are switched off, there will be no new revenue payments from these machines. Further, we will collect no maintenance fee on the Umisoo, ANTS2, and ANTS3 during this time. Note: GH/s trading for these units will continue as normal. Users may still buy or sell mining contracts for the Umisoo, ANTS2, and ANTS3 during this time. Isn't is funny how a major ASIC manufacturer can no longer offer profitable cloud mining yet these "services" that refuse to provide any evidence of legitimacy can. I'm sure u r one of the followers of that Puppet gawd, who is desperately trying to proof legitimacy of an ilegal service call HaveLock Investments.
Yeah, you're definitely not SpanishSoldier. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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P4man
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January 14, 2015, 12:07:53 PM |
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I'm sure u r one of the followers of that Puppet gawd, who is desperately trying to proof legitimacy of an ilegal service call HaveLock Investments.
What havelock does is indeed most likely illegal in most countries, and moreover, not a single security trading there is worth buying (maybe BDD at times). So no, Im not promoting it, and unlike you, Im not desperate. Im just calling a scam a scam, and you a piece of shit.
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RussianRaibow
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January 14, 2015, 09:03:27 PM |
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I'm sure u r one of the followers of that Puppet gawd, who is desperately trying to proof legitimacy of an ilegal service call HaveLock Investments.
Yeah, you're definitely not SpanishSoldier. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Looks like SpanishSoldier kicked you so hard to throw you out of the DefaultTrust that you have not yet been able to cope up with the pain instead of having the consolation +ve trust from Canary ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I'm sure u r one of the followers of that Puppet gawd, who is desperately trying to proof legitimacy of an ilegal service call HaveLock Investments.
What havelock does is indeed most likely illegal in most countries, and moreover, not a single security trading there is worth buying (maybe BDD at times). So no, Im not promoting it, and unlike you, Im not desperate. Im just calling a scam a scam, and you a piece of shit. Still u have to come back to this thread again again in the name of awareness campaign. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Instead of all your collaborative effort for almost 3 months now, we are still getting paid every Monday on time and on the contrary, your super legit CEX.io has stopped mining after giving -ve payout for a few week. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Cloud Mining (OP)
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January 14, 2015, 10:37:07 PM |
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Successfully completed the first week of the campaign. Now we are accepting Jr. Members and above for the upcoming monthly campaign. Join us & earn bitcoins simply by posting... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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GermanGiant
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January 15, 2015, 02:01:58 PM |
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Successfully completed the first week of the campaign. Now we are accepting Jr. Members and above for the upcoming monthly campaign. Join us & earn bitcoins simply by posting... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yeppie... I'll be in \ ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) /
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Cloud Mining (OP)
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January 17, 2015, 11:08:50 AM |
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This is to inform everyone that our minimum amount of withdrawal is now 0.01 BTC. If you have any queation regarding this, feel free to ask in our support forum => http://forum.cloudmining.website
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January 17, 2015, 11:10:14 AM Last edit: January 17, 2015, 12:13:02 PM by whitewhidow |
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This is to inform everyone that our minimum amount of withdrawal is now 0.01 BTC. If you have any queation regarding this, feel free to ask in our support forum => http://forum.cloudmining.websitewhat a load .. so the ppl who only bought like 20 GHS for 0.02, get 1 payout at 50% roi, and the second one at 100% roi (if it makes it that far) ?
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TO WHOEVER STOL MY ACCOUNT AND WAS NOW USING IT AS HIS OWN, FCK OFF PLEASE - The REAL WHITEWHIDOW
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January 17, 2015, 02:17:24 PM |
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This is to inform everyone that our minimum amount of withdrawal is now 0.01 BTC. If you have any queation regarding this, feel free to ask in our support forum => http://forum.cloudmining.websiteThis sucks.
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January 17, 2015, 02:19:01 PM |
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This is to inform everyone that our minimum amount of withdrawal is now 0.01 BTC. If you have any queation regarding this, feel free to ask in our support forum => http://forum.cloudmining.websitewhat a load .. so the ppl who only bought like 20 GHS for 0.02, get 1 payout at 50% roi, and the second one at 100% roi (if it makes it that far) ? Ppl who bought like 10Ghs will never get a payout.
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January 18, 2015, 12:30:06 AM |
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This is to inform everyone that our minimum amount of withdrawal is now 0.01 BTC. If you have any queation regarding this, feel free to ask in our support forum => http://forum.cloudmining.websiteThis sucks. This REALLY sucks. I hope that OP will change his mind, idk why people would invest here and not in any other ponzi if they do not at least give weekly (very small) payouts...
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January 18, 2015, 12:38:33 AM |
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I hope that OP will change his mind, idk why people would invest here and not in any other ponzi if they do not at least give weekly (very small) payouts...
Seriously, there are ponzis that will double your money every 100 hours, yet some people still choose cloudmining ponzis that will return ~10% profit in 3-6 months. (assuming it doesn't collapse prior) Disclaimer: I don't advocate gambling/promoting ponzis. Just go to a casino where the risk/reward ratio is better and you get free drinks.
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January 18, 2015, 01:20:37 PM |
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dr1980m tried to purchase 30 Gh by sending 0.003 BTC to 1F91HzJaQZ1WGU9NG2ZhFaXctZD6vMsV3L from 13RJvPMzxdAyzXQNnLAAimrMQBGseRJRmC. which was later refunded from Cloud Mining Website's payout address (not the address it was sent to) as shown below: From 1F91HzJaQZ1WGU9NG2ZhFaXctZD6vMsV3L, the 0.003 BTC is sent to 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec. The first payment to 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec was on 2014-11-02 08:42:37 (when Cloud Mining Website started) and receives multiple payments of amounts that are integer multiples of 0.001 BTC (Cloud Mining Website's price per Gh/s). Also, out of 242 transactions, only 3 involve coins moving from 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec. 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec is quite clearly a receiving address for "customer" payments which seem to pass through a unique address first. The first payment out of 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec sends 15.349 BTC to 1Ng9UahczApASvLVPCEoJmvnMAHTvXpFPH on 2015-01-11 18:26:36. From 1Ng9UahczApASvLVPCEoJmvnMAHTvXpFPH, 10.0803785 BTC is sent to 1DoXReLhoc4Qw528ejwhYBWE4DyctGJsRv, which sends the coins to 14uiWYG2kwjbm3AorVaB6qK6o2eSETCqRV and with a few other addresses, finally on to 1FsVcdeHbpvUVT3gjeuVR2ZSDnpcsJMsLL. This give the following chain of transactions: 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec > 1Ng9UahczApASvLVPCEoJmvnMAHTvXpFPH > 1DoXReLhoc4Qw528ejwhYBWE4DyctGJsRv > 14uiWYG2kwjbm3AorVaB6qK6o2eSETCqRV > 1FsVcdeHbpvUVT3gjeuVR2ZSDnpcsJMsLL The latest transaction with 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec shows that it received 0.01091639 BTC and a 1KufA3z7mLntENepGKo9Ktu9S7qAL2oLF3 received 0.3613364 BTC. Given that 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec is the customer payment receiving address where the coins where sent to, 1KufA3z7mLntENepGKo9Ktu9S7qAL2oLF3 is a change address which is also belong to Cloud Mining Website. The coins that 1KufA3z7mLntENepGKo9Ktu9S7qAL2oLF3 receives are sent on to 1LAAhMSLXhLhvgrmdHancjhUyVE2rbcTuJ, then 11QSYSjTjadhNbKXgBcg4B3k5WjnEMkqP, then 1P9GfsxGavQVgZndXk1EbPyKmYwdtDYufB, to finally reach 1MPxhNkSzeTNTHSZAibMaS8HS1esmUL1ne (Eobot cloud mining) This give the following chain of transactions: 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec > 1KufA3z7mLntENepGKo9Ktu9S7qAL2oLF3 > 1LAAhMSLXhLhvgrmdHancjhUyVE2rbcTuJ > 1P9GfsxGavQVgZndXk1EbPyKmYwdtDYufB > 1MPxhNkSzeTNTHSZAibMaS8HS1esmUL1ne (Eobot cloud mining) So Cloud Mining Website, can you explain why you are sending payments from customers to Eobot cloud mining? Also, why are your customers payments being sent to 1FsVcdeHbpvUVT3gjeuVR2ZSDnpcsJMsLL (an address familiar to recent cloud mining ponzi victims)? If anyone posts on Cloud Mining Website's forums, ask them to come and explain that.
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