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January 23, 2015, 01:41:31 PM |
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I want to bet with you that...
1. 1KufA3z7mLntENepGKo9Ktu9S7qAL2oLF3 can not be proven as owned by the owner of 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec in any way by blockchain analysis.
2. Owner of 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec has no hand in the transaction link between 1F91HzJaQZ1WGU9NG2ZhFaXctZD6vMsV3L (pay in address) > 1GNmnxWkComFYF7k8EBeKtgQz2sprUGYvM.
How much you want to bet ?
So Muppet, you are accepting that you were lying all through and can not accept the bet above ? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Fist of all, I've told you repeatedly to shove your unwinnable bet up your arse. Second, I never said that 1KufA3z7mLntENepGKo9Ktu9S7qAL2oLF3 could be proven to be the owner of 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec by blockchain analysis. I simply claimed it was the owner because that's what the evidence strongly suggests. With 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec being CMW's incoming payment collection address, it stands to reason that payments to it will be from CMW owned addresses which I've shown to be true for numerous other addresses. If the input addresses belong to CMW and one of the two output addresses belongs to CMW, given all the other evidence provided and the very distinct repeating pattern of the transactions, it's bloody obvious that 1KufA3z7mLntENepGKo9Ktu9S7qAL2oLF3 is also owned by CMW. Thirdly, I've already shown that 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec was involved in the transaction between 1F91HzJaQZ1WGU9NG2ZhFaXctZD6vMsV3L and 1GNmnxWkComFYF7k8EBeKtgQz2sprUGYvM, as well as a shit load of other transactions involving CMW addresses and that Eobot address. Fourthly, what lies have I told? Point to a specific one. Lastly, who gives a shit about those 2 chains though when I just provided 9 chains with that very same distinct flow of funds. Basically, you'd have to be a SimplemindedSpanishSoldier, a RetardedRussianRainbow or a GullibleGermanGiant to ignore such evidence. Answer me a very simple Q... Do you have a proof that cloudmining.website is sending fund to Eobot ? Either u have the proof or u dont. Which one is true ? 1. If you dont have proof, why are you screaming ? 2. If you do have proof, why are not you accepting the bet ?
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January 23, 2015, 01:47:44 PM |
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Your bet is like, asking to bet in December whether CEX.io will cease cloud mining operation or not. No, its like asking if they will honor their contracts in December, a bet Im quite willing to accept for cex.io too, or any company I listed as legit. Of course Id be betting the other way for legitimate companies. Why would you not accept such a bet for cloudmining.website, or what odds would you require to accept it? If you accept it, then it is a gambling. Because, none of us know who will stop when. Did not KNC show mining proof ? But, did not they fail ? How am I supposed to know who will fail, when the industry leader like CEX.io is failing ? My point is clear. I'll take bet only when I have blockchain proof of something, like Mabshark's claim. For your claim, I have no proof. If you ask me to bet n your listed legitimate companies, then also I will not take the bet. If you talk about HaveLock, then also I'll not take the bet. Because, I will not gamble. I need blockchain proof before I bet. Clear ?
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January 23, 2015, 01:54:16 PM |
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Answer me a very simple Q...
Do you have a proof that cloudmining.website is sending fund to Eobot ? Either u have the proof or u dont. Which one is true ?
1. If you dont have proof, why are you screaming ?
2. If you do have proof, why are not you accepting the bet ?
1. I have already provided lots of evidence which shows conclusively that Cloud Mining Website is sending funds to Eobot. Taken altogether, I'd say that's proof. 2. Because I don't want to and whether I accept your bet or not has no bearing on any of the evidence I've provided. Your bet is nothing but an attempt to divert peoples attention away from the evidence of Cloud Mining website sending funds to Eobot. I've already listed 9 chains that show that Cloud Mining Website is sending funds to Eobot and that was just from addresses listed in the first payout. I can guarantee you I could find a lot more with the exact same pattern.
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January 23, 2015, 01:55:13 PM |
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Your bet is like, asking to bet in December whether CEX.io will cease cloud mining operation or not. No, its like asking if they will honor their contracts in December, a bet Im quite willing to accept for cex.io too, or any company I listed as legit. Of course Id be betting the other way for legitimate companies. Why would you not accept such a bet for cloudmining.website, or what odds would you require to accept it? If you accept it, then it is a gambling. Because, none of us know who will stop when. Its not about "stopping" if disclosed fees > revenue, its about violating their contracts. Can you really not tell the difference? Because I can, I correctly predicted the 9 out of the 9 recent ponzi's that collapsed and ran away, and so far I correctly predicted the 7 legitimate offers would continue to honor their contracts to date, even those that had to close. Am I that lucky you think? Did not KNC show mining proof ? But, did not they fail ? They have not violated their cloudmining contracts. How am I supposed to know who will fail, when the industry leader like CEX.io is failing ? They have not violated their cloudmining contracts. For your claim, I have no proof. If you ask me to bet n your listed legitimate companies, then also I will not take the bet. If you talk about HaveLock, then also I'll not take the bet. Because, I will not gamble. Its not a gamble. Cloudmining.website WILL run away with the money, if you think there is even a remote chance of that not being true, just tell me what odds you will take.
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January 23, 2015, 02:21:31 PM |
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Answer me a very simple Q...
Do you have a proof that cloudmining.website is sending fund to Eobot ? Either u have the proof or u dont. Which one is true ?
1. If you dont have proof, why are you screaming ?
2. If you do have proof, why are not you accepting the bet ?
1. I have already provided lots of evidence which shows conclusively that Cloud Mining Website is sending funds to Eobot. Taken altogether, I'd say that's proof. 2. Because I don't want to and whether I accept your bet or not has no bearing on any of the evidence I've provided. Your bet is nothing but an attempt to divert peoples attention away from the evidence of Cloud Mining website sending funds to Eobot. I've already listed 9 chains that show that Cloud Mining Website is sending funds to Eobot and that was just from addresses listed in the first payout. I can guarantee you I could find a lot more with the exact same pattern. Very good. You have proof, evidence bla bla bla. Accept the bet, prove it and win the money. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Your bet is like, asking to bet in December whether CEX.io will cease cloud mining operation or not. No, its like asking if they will honor their contracts in December, a bet Im quite willing to accept for cex.io too, or any company I listed as legit. Of course Id be betting the other way for legitimate companies. Why would you not accept such a bet for cloudmining.website, or what odds would you require to accept it? If you accept it, then it is a gambling. Because, none of us know who will stop when. Its not about "stopping" if disclosed fees > revenue, its about violating their contracts. Can you really not tell the difference? Because I can, I correctly predicted the 9 out of the 9 recent ponzi's that collapsed and ran away, and so far I correctly predicted the 7 legitimate offers would continue to honor their contracts to date, even those that had to close. Am I that lucky you think? Did not KNC show mining proof ? But, did not they fail ? They have not violated their cloudmining contracts. How am I supposed to know who will fail, when the industry leader like CEX.io is failing ? They have not violated their cloudmining contracts. For your claim, I have no proof. If you ask me to bet n your listed legitimate companies, then also I will not take the bet. If you talk about HaveLock, then also I'll not take the bet. Because, I will not gamble. Its not a gamble. Cloudmining.website WILL run away with the money, if you think there is even a remote chance of that not being true, just tell me what odds you will take. Even if you are talking about a company listed in NASDAQ, its gamble unless u have insider information. You are simply "trusting" someone to stay. I dont want to "Trust". I rely on the proof on blockchain, which is unavailable for each and every company.
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January 23, 2015, 02:28:14 PM |
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I dont want to "Trust". I rely on the proof on blockchain,
So where is the blockchain proof (or ANY proof whatsover) cloudmining.website is doing any mining? And if there isnt any, why would you trust them, when many other companies do provide that proof?
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January 23, 2015, 02:36:44 PM |
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I dont want to "Trust". I rely on the proof on blockchain,
So where is the blockchain proof cloudmining.website is doing any mining? And if there isnt any, why would you trust them, when many other companies do provide that proof? You are master of changing the topic of conversation. We are talking about why I will not bet on how long this company or any other mining company will stay. If you have Q about their service or proof, ask it in their forum... http://forum.cloudmining.website^^^This is a result of wrong blockchain analysis and hence I am inviting you in the bet, if u think they are correct. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 23, 2015, 02:49:46 PM |
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^^^This is a result of wrong blockchain analysis and hence I am inviting you in the bet, if u think they are correct. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) No it isn't. That's just you not understanding how transactions work. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcaUaxsh.png&t=665&c=LDcWuhYjlO3U6g) 1F91HzJaQZ1WGU9NG2ZhFaXctZD6vMsV3L is a CMW pay-in address. It belongs to CMW. Therefore the other input address - 159L7bbpjvYuMT5PQnFyQvJwws3f7D5BpL also belongs to CMW. That transaction sends funds to 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec (which is CMW's pay-in collection address) and 1GNmnxWkComFYF7k8EBeKtgQz2sprUGYvM. Every single one of the above transactions follows the same format which very strongly suggest that in all those transactions, the output address below 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec also belongs to CMW. The evidence is far too overwhelming for any other conclusion.
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January 23, 2015, 03:02:11 PM |
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does somebody know why minethatcloud website now redirected to cloudmining.website? I have (had) some ghs on minethatcloud.
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January 23, 2015, 03:10:45 PM |
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You are master of changing the topic of conversation. This has always been the topic, you where the one changing it to your stupid bet. SO let me get this right, you are saying you are not aware of any shred of evidence cloudmining.website is doing any mining, correct? You also stated you do not want to trust, but that you require proof. Moreover, you have proven to be unwilling to bet (/invest) even a satoshi cloudmining.website will be around for more than a few months, regardless of the odds (/ROI). So given that, do you think it sensible to invest in this? You think it sensible to recommend it to anyone?
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January 23, 2015, 03:25:27 PM |
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^^^This is a result of wrong blockchain analysis and hence I am inviting you in the bet, if u think they are correct. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) No it isn't. That's just you not understanding how transactions work. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcaUaxsh.png&t=665&c=LDcWuhYjlO3U6g) 1F91HzJaQZ1WGU9NG2ZhFaXctZD6vMsV3L is a CMW pay-in address. It belongs to CMW. Therefore the other input address - 159L7bbpjvYuMT5PQnFyQvJwws3f7D5BpL also belongs to CMW. That transaction sends funds to 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec (which is CMW's pay-in collection address) and 1GNmnxWkComFYF7k8EBeKtgQz2sprUGYvM. Every single one of the above transactions follows the same format which very strongly suggest that in all those transactions, the output address below 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec also belongs to CMW. The evidence is far too overwhelming for any other conclusion. If I can prove the statement in bold as wrong, then will you wear my cloudmining.website affiliate signature link for next 1 year ? You are master of changing the topic of conversation. This has always been the topic, you where the one changing it to your stupid bet. SO let me get this right, you are saying you are not aware of any shred of evidence cloudmining.website is doing any mining, correct? You also stated you do not want to trust, but that you require proof. Moreover, you have proven to be unwilling to bet (/invest) even a satoshi cloudmining.website will be around for more than a few months, regardless of the odds (/ROI). So given that, do you think it sensible to invest in this? You think it sensible to recommend it to anyone? You dont need to get it straight after 5 post and make it look like a dramatic realization. I have made it straight from the very beginning. I will bet against Mabshark because I know what he is claiming is wrong and that is proven by the blockchain. I will not bet against you because you are trying to gamble on an uncertain event in future, which is applicable to every single cloud mining company. I dont even know who is FriedCat. Hence I dont see a reason to bet on his businesses like AM hash, AsicMiner etc even for next 3 months as he can vanish in the air anytime with the fund. Same applies to all cloud mining services.
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January 23, 2015, 06:45:00 PM |
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You dont need to get it straight after 5 post and make it look like a dramatic realization. I have made it straight from the very beginning. I will bet against Mabshark because I know what he is claiming is wrong and that is proven by the blockchain. I will not bet against you because you are trying to gamble on an uncertain event in future
Its not uncertain.
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January 23, 2015, 07:07:08 PM |
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If I can prove the statement in bold as wrong, then will you wear my cloudmining.website affiliate signature link for next 1 year ?
If you prove me wrong, then I'll admit that I was wrong and apologise. There are simply too many addresses connecting Cloud Mining Website to Eobot so you'll need solid proof. How could you possibly prove that CMW doesn't own that address though unless you were somehow involved with this operation?
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January 24, 2015, 01:33:08 AM |
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does somebody know why minethatcloud website now redirected to cloudmining.website? I have (had) some ghs on minethatcloud.
now cloudmining.website is down too and shows the same hosting error as minethatcloud yesterday
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January 24, 2015, 08:58:21 AM |
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We have noticed that the www.cloudmining.website is now down. There is absolutely no reason to panic. All your data are safe at our offline storage and all miners are working perfectly. We are trying to solve the website problem as soon as possible.
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January 24, 2015, 09:47:46 AM Last edit: January 24, 2015, 10:51:12 AM by Mabsark |
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We have noticed that the www.cloudmining.website is now down. There is absolutely no reason to panic. All your data are safe at our offline storage and all miners are working perfectly. We are trying to solve the website problem as soon as possible. How about commenting on why so many of your pay-in addresses are involved in transactions that fund Eobot. From what I can tell 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec was your pay-in collection address which collected funds from individual customer pay-in addresses. During the transfer from the individual pay-in addresses, you were mixing coins with addresses that went on to fund Eobot. To do so, you had to be cooperating with the owners of the addresses that funded Eobot or you would have to be the owners of those addresses. All the transactions I looked at involving 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec receiving bitcoins showed this pattern. So, what exactly is your connection to the owners of those addresses and why do they always go on to fund Eobot?
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January 25, 2015, 12:01:34 PM |
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We have noticed that the www.cloudmining.website is now down. There is absolutely no reason to panic. All your data are safe at our offline storage and all miners are working perfectly. We are trying to solve the website problem as soon as possible. After experiencing intense DDoS www.CloudMining.website is now back to normalcy. Sorry for the interim downtime.
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January 25, 2015, 03:52:14 PM |
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We have noticed that the www.cloudmining.website is now down. There is absolutely no reason to panic. All your data are safe at our offline storage and all miners are working perfectly. We are trying to solve the website problem as soon as possible. After experiencing intense DDoS www.CloudMining.website is now back to normalcy. Sorry for the interim downtime. http://www.cloudmining.website/login.phpLogin website is not working for me.
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January 26, 2015, 08:30:27 AM |
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We have noticed that the www.cloudmining.website is now down. There is absolutely no reason to panic. All your data are safe at our offline storage and all miners are working perfectly. We are trying to solve the website problem as soon as possible. After experiencing intense DDoS www.CloudMining.website is now back to normalcy. Sorry for the interim downtime. http://www.cloudmining.website/login.phpLogin website is not working for me. We faced another DDOS and CloudFlare was showing cached copy. Everything should be fine by now.
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