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March 20, 2023, 12:41:05 PM
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The Smiley logo has changed...

There is a plain logo which can be used with anything in the Smiley family (SmileyCharity, SmileyCoin etc)




There is a version for the coin, with the text under the logo




There is also a wide version for the coin


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April 11, 2023, 09:33:02 PM
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The first SmileyCoin halvening is expected to occur on May 14th 2023 (give or take a day or two).

If you have looked at the code, please let us know if there is anything you think we should take a look at!
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May 12, 2023, 05:35:39 AM
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SmileyCoin halvening in 40 hours
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May 12, 2023, 08:07:45 PM
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I hope you're all keeping track: SMLY coinbase will be halved in 24 hours!
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May 13, 2023, 08:05:16 AM
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I hope you're all keeping track: SMLY coinbase will be halved in 24 hours!
12 hours now
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May 13, 2023, 05:56:49 PM
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I hope you're all keeping track: SMLY coinbase will be halved in 24 hours!
12 hours now

30 more blocks - 90 minutes...

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December 08, 2023, 06:58:38 PM
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So the coinbase halving (halvening?) went just fine.

There is lots of news from the SmileyCoin and SmileyCharity teams, but it doesn't make it much into this thread any more.

You may want to check out the various other links provided in the OP...

We were in Kenya in October - there are now thousands of students in over 45 locations using the SmileyTutor and SmileyCoin.

For followers in Iceland: there will be a splash even in early January...

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January 12, 2024, 10:40:42 PM
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Everyone knows @southxchange is closing, right?

You need to withdraw your $SMLY funds - and everything else.
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February 02, 2024, 02:34:32 PM
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Recent news:

southXchange closed down. Applications have been made to other exchanges. Work is underway to get into a DEX.

SmileyCoin is currently not registered on an exchange and is therefore not being mined by mining pools. However all algorithms are being mined by multiple CPU miners. The chain is fine.

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February 05, 2024, 12:21:57 PM
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By all means check out the new project web page for the SmileyCharity
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February 05, 2024, 07:48:16 PM
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Looks like work is ongoing to accept SMLY onto FreiXLite -- wallet setup does not seem complete yet, but this is definitely ongoing.



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February 12, 2024, 05:40:33 PM
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Is there an English version of the website?

Iceland seems like a very crypto-friendly place. Is there any service in Iceland where I can spend Smileycoin? For example a domain name service?
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February 16, 2024, 12:52:53 AM
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Is there an English version of the website?

Iceland seems like a very crypto-friendly place. Is there any service in Iceland where I can spend Smileycoin? For example a domain name service?

We've actually postponed the translation of the website since the Kenyan folks had no problem reading the Google-translation.

I don't know of any service that currently accepts SmileyCoin in Iceland - except for coupon sales and donations from within the web wallet.

Feel free to help with establishing such services.
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February 24, 2024, 12:23:24 PM
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The pools closed when southXchange closed.
New exchanges are on the way.
One pool is in development.
Check the discord channel.
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February 24, 2024, 07:51:43 PM
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Wow, cool. That would be very useful.

Please take into account that the coinbase for SMLY is a 3-way split where the miner's reward is 10% of the coinbase.

AFAIK there is nothing "wrong". We just got caught with our pants down when southXchange closed down after having been very stable and extremely useful for a long time. SmileyCoin is now being considered for several exchanges.

Thanks, I have a pool and looking into adding SMLY to it, just making sure nothing's wrong with it.  Smiley

The pools closed when southXchange closed.
New exchanges are on the way.
One pool is in development.
Check the discord channel.

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March 03, 2024, 05:00:55 AM
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wait, so miners gets only 10% of block rewards?
Miners get 10% of coinbase.

The coinbase is not a "block reward".
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March 05, 2024, 03:59:31 AM
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5k is the block reward.
2250 to someone
2250 to someone else
500 TO THE MINER

appears to me that coinbase IS the block reward since miner gets 10% of 5,000, which is 500.


The first post even says this: miners (10%), dividends (45%) and donations (45%)

wtf is a dividend, and why is that wallet not being used? where are donations being spent?

One wallet has 486,045,000 SMLY, another 27,826,000. Nothing out, only in. More than one of these wallets earning, too. Each block shows other wallets for the 45%.

The 'official' coin fund( I assume dividends) is at 9,543,133,975.82 SMLY (25% of all coins produced, by the way)
The 'official' Charity fund(donations is most logical) is at 2,619,266,032.25 SMLY.

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March 05, 2024, 09:10:53 AM
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Page 1 literally says it is: "Coinbase (block reward): 10 000 SMLY (halved after 7 years) goes to miners (10%), dividends (45%) and donations (45%)"

Only 10% for miners is incredibly discouraging.   Sad
Ah, yes, sorry, I've changed this to just say coinbase since it now confused me as well.

Usually we think of coinbase=block reward = miner's reward for a coin and this is not the case for SmileyCoin.
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March 05, 2024, 09:49:43 AM
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5k is the block reward.
2250 to someone
2250 to someone else
500 TO THE MINER

appears to me that coinbase IS the block reward since miner gets 10% of 5,000, which is 500.


The first post even says this: miners (10%), dividends (45%) and donations (45%)

wtf is a dividend, and why is that wallet not being used? where are donations being spent?

One wallet has 486,045,000 SMLY, another 27,826,000. Nothing out, only in. More than one of these wallets earning, too. Each block shows other wallets for the 45%.

The 'official' coin fund( I assume dividends) is at 9,543,133,975.82 SMLY (25% of all coins produced, by the way)
The 'official' Charity fund(donations is most logical) is at 2,619,266,032.25 SMLY.



All of this is detailed in a peer-reviewed professional publication, which you can find here: https://ledger.pitt.edu/ojs/ledger/article/view/103

I've removed the reference to "block reward" since it's not really a "reward" and I suspect most of us think "miner's reward" when we hear "block reward".

Allow me to summarise, first the coinbase split. The coinbase is currently 5000 SMLY:
  • Miners receive 10% of the coinbase, currently 500
  • 45% form a donation: paid in a rotation to 10 income streams for charities - payments from every block to the SmileyCharity  
  • 45% automatically pays dividends to those who hold 25M SMLY in one address - rotating payments from every block


Next, allow me to explain some of the addresses which are at the top of the rich list:
  • The SmileyCoinFund is a formal fund with a Board, to support edTech and related activities. To date the only applications have come from the SmileyTutor, which has a reward scheme used to support students in African slums who borrow tablets in libraries to study. As they progress in their studies, the students earn SmileyCoin which they can use to purchase foodstuffs, sanitary pads, airtime or even the tablets themselves. This is currently used in 45 SmileyLibraries in Kenya. These coins were set aside back in 2014 and subsequently moved to a formal fund which is designed to be a traceable as possible: Each transaction out of the fund is described with a plaintext string describing where the funds are being sent. Four organisations each have one member on the Board.
  • The donation address for the SmileyCharity is the next one on the list. When the students purchase tablets or purchase foodstuffs in the SmileyStores, these items have in fact been donated by the SmileyCharity which therefore receives the actual SmileyCoin payments.
  • Most of the donations in the 10 income streams are still unused. One income stream is used to test Universal Basic Income in African slums and another two are simply paid forward to 40 other charities.


The dividends are simply rotating payments to any address containing at least 25 M SMLY. The reason for this is that these are the HODL-ers who have purchased SmileyCoin to support the project. If the amount in such an address falls below 25M then the address stops receiving dividends. If  any spending occurs from the address, then it moves to the back of the list. The point is to encourage support for the coin.

Some history for those of you who are new to the coin:
When the coin started i 2014, a 50% premine (24 bn SMLY) was set up to support the SmileyTutor. The intention was to spend the premine roughly at the same speed as the miners generated new coins. Today the SmileyCoinFund has 9bn left whereas 12bn have yet to be mined, so the spending from the fund is a bit more than new coins from mining, but the mining is also a bit behind schedule.

In 2017 the coinbase split was set up. There were many reasons for this, among them was incredibly difficult logistics introduced by mining pools who aggressively mined the coin (using bad allocation algorithms) and then left it with an extremely high difficulty (this is actually why the mining is behind schedule). This was also why we changed the coin to allow mining using several mining algorithms.

If we had known in 2014 that we could simply split the coinbase, then we would probably have doubled the coinbase and gone with a coinbase split directly to the SmileyTutor but no premine. It's easy to be clever in hindsight.



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March 05, 2024, 10:14:13 AM
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If you managed to get through the previus post:

The SmileyCoinFund donates to the SmileyTutor, which pays students who purchase stuff from SmileyLibraries and the SmileyCharity basically buys back those coins.

Since there has never been much of a market for SmileyCoin, for the most part this just stays in the SmileyCharity's wallet.

Further, the SmileyCharity is in charge of the 10 donation addresses which receive 45% of the coinbase. Three of these are actively used for UBI or forwarded to other charities.

As more coins leave the SmileyCoinFund and more students purchase more stuff, more coins end with the SmileyCharity. There have never been much of a market for SmileyCoin and the SmileyCharity has never really been able to sell many of its coins.

For the SmileyCharity it would be optimal if an active SmileyCoin market would exist, with some demand for the SmileyCoin. However, this has not materialised even though the coin is now almost 10 years old.

The net result is that the SmileyCharity is accumulating too many coins...

Give it another 3-4 years and the SmileyCoinFund will no longer be at the top of the rich list.

As this trend continues, we need to start thinking whether the SmileyCharity should eventually take over from the SmileyCoinFund, donating coins back to the SmileyTutor. The SmileyCharity has a mission to help students in slums and refugee camps to get into university. It doesn't really run the SmileyTutor, which is open software developed by the University of Iceland and Shuttle Thread, but if the coins can not be sold and just keep accumulating then the SmileyCharity may just as well donate them back to the SmileyTutor.

Comments welcome...

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