Support OpenBazaar!!!

[slaveforanunnak1]

thanks for clearing that up.

[CryptoGuu]

do OpenBazaar have any solution for child pornography or terrorism funding?

[inBitweTrust]

do OpenBazaar have any solution for child pornography or terrorism funding?

Terrorists are much better funded with fiat currencies as they can function anonymously and have ways of better controlling their currency to support their efforts. Terrorism is inappropriately used to describe actions of opponents, lunatics, and small gangs when it should also be applied to states as well. The DEA and SWAT team attacking a family and stealing all of their assets for consuming a plant peacefully do qualify to be labeled terrorists as well. Thus supporting Bitcoin and OpenBazaar can lead to a reduction in terrorism as it makes their efforts futile and possibly lead to decriminalizing more drugs in the future.

Child Pornography, murders for hire, and terrorism all has to be handled with good old fashion investigations and sting operations. Frankly, I could care less if perverts are jerking off to underage cartoons or simulated pictures of children. I think its disgusting but it doesn't harm any children directly. If any real children are used we can investigate into it and track them down based on the photos themselves providing leads. We can investigate murders for hire by a sting operation where any bounty hunters are arrested or killed defensively as soon as they attack the bait.

[Lethn]

I don't speak for OpenBazaar but I would hate to see an entire network shut down over a few psychopaths when the rest of the people using it are just using it for relatively innocent purposes in comparison, I'm sure the community will inform somebody if that kind of shit happens but a true free market should never be jeopardised because of the actions of a few.

If you've looked around I'm sure you realise that the media have a habit of painting us all as terrorists, drug dealers and paedophiles when we're quite obviously not.

[rollingMyCar]

OpenBazaar shares would ruin the whole point of it being open source and decentralised, if you want shares then get the OpenBazaar code and start your own company.

That's my thoughts on the matter

I'm sure people will do this. People are always greedy and will want to make money from this great idea. Hopefully the market will dictate which way these kind of marketplaces will go and how they will develop without centralised entities or people taking their cut.

This is expected, and in fact, is the reason the licence was changed from GPL to MIT recently.

Plz can you explain differenze between GPL and MIT license in a few words?
Thanks

GPL use in a project requires all code mods to be GPL/public. MIT doesn't.
There are exceptions, but basically that means a group could use OB in a commercial product without being required to contribute their whole project (or even the OB enhancements) to the public domain.

ok.

if so is not good for us because we can never see the source code....

if i understand well

no?

[inBitweTrust]

ok.

if so is not good for us because we can never see the source code....

if i understand well

no?

No, its completely open source and will remain so. The source code is on github.

[turvarya]

ok.

if so is not good for us because we can never see the source code....

if i understand well

no?

No, its completely ope source and will remain so. The source code is on github.

He meant, that somebody could make a clone that isn't open source anymore, as far as he understood MIT-license.

[hoffmabc]

Someone could clone the code and create a closed source version. There is nothing stopping that from happening with or without the license. TBH we wouldn't have enough funds to go and fight something like that if it did violate our license ATM. Our core project and reference implementation client will remain open source and this will not change. Our goal is to build a free and open protocol that can be used in open and/or closed projects. Users will have to be vigilant to root out bad forks or derivations or remain using the core team's software which can be audited and openly reviewed.

In terms of content on the network it's closer to an agnostic marketplace transport and facilitator than a content inspector and that is not under the purview of this project. If someone wants to step up and provide a plugin or extension to help end users filter their content that is viewable that is possible and we would of course view this as an outside interest. We're not aiming to support illegal behavior, rather we are deferring that responsibility to an outer layer rather than as part of the core protocol. Does that help?

[troy112]

Why couldn't one buy shares in this? Such as freemarket did. Would have been win win

^coming soon... 

Hey everyone, Sam Patterson here from the OpenBazaar team.

We admittedly don't have a very good presence here in the forums, we are mostly in our /r/openbazaar subreddit or on IRC. So claims like the quote above should be treated very skeptically; this appears to be a scammer.

We aren't offering shares, or any investment of any kind. There are no fees for using OpenBazaar - that's one of the cores benefits of it - so it's unclear how anyone could get a return on investment. We do take donations, but aren't soliciting them, we don't really need them at this point. If we do, we'll do a proper crowdfunding campaign.

Happy to answer questions about OpenBazaar is anyone has them. We're really excited to see how much the community has supported us over the past few months, it's been a lot of work but very rewarding.

Wow, The whole thread is a burst!! People here are talking about burning bitcoin and Openbazaar are not even doing any IPO...

[inBitweTrust]

Wow, The whole thread is a burst!! People here are talking about burning bitcoin and Openbazaar are not even doing any IPO...

Proof of burn isn't for an IPO with open bazaar,but a way to bolster the reputation of a merchant or arbitrator.

Read more about it here directly from the source:

https://blog.openbazaar.org/proof-of-burn-and-reputation-pledges/

https://blog.openbazaar.org/why-proof-of-burn/

[theblacksquid]

UPDATE: added OB's mutisig wallet address to OP

[deluxeCITY]

do OpenBazaar have any solution for child pornography or terrorism funding?

No. Although things like terrorism funding is not really something that would likely take place on a platform like OB unless entities like ISIS were to sell stuff on OB and use the proceeds to finance themselves, however I think they could use many other marketplaces to accomplish this if what they are selling is not illegal.

I have seen a couple of teaser youtube videos advertising OB before the project was as far along as it is now and the videos were advertising that any buyer could use plausible deniability if the police were ever to intercept a package sent to them containing drugs. 

[evok3d]

OpenBazaar is a great platform and i hope to see it develop into a fully decentralized and open platform for all to use. I think its time we stop using the governments internet and make our own one too

[Flashman]

I think its time we stop using the governments internet and make our own one too

Particularly since the likes of Comcast et al have done a regulatory capture of the FCC and monopolise high speed access to it. Cut them out too, send them to the poorhouse.

Best initiative I've seen so far are Mesh networks, using routers. There was also a free "data hose" one way satellite internet idea in the works. Now for offloading lowest common denominator donkey work of fetching high traffic sites on, and putting all the interesting stuff across the mesh wifi, we might have something.

[dwdoc]

I don't speak for OpenBazaar but I would hate to see an entire network shut down over a few psychopaths when the rest of the people using it are just using it for relatively innocent purposes in comparison, I'm sure the community will inform somebody if that kind of shit happens but a true free market should never be jeopardised because of the actions of a few.

If you've looked around I'm sure you realise that the media have a habit of painting us all as terrorists, drug dealers and paedophiles when we're quite obviously not.

People may decide not to use it but it can't be shut down. It's a decentralized peer to peer network like Bitorrent and Bitcoin.

[williamevanl]

If there's going to be a Bitcoin killer app, I feel like this is going to be it. Does anybody know when this is going live?

[Febo]

What made you think so?

[inBitweTrust]

Early next year it should be safe to use.


https://github.com/OpenBazaar/OpenBazaar/wiki/Development-Roadmap

Roadmap and Timeline
Beta 1.0 (August 31):

    Generation, signing, and verification of Ricardian Contracts.
    Generation, signing, and broadcasting of 2-of-3 multisig.
    Reputation Pledges, a proof-of-burn implementation for bootstrapping trust.
    Ability to back up database.
    GUI to manage these features.
    UPnP port mapping support.
    One-click .tar.gz backups of the database and keys.

Beta 2.0 (September 30):

    Multiple bug fixes.
    New feature: "Add Node" by entering Store GUID.
    New feature: Shutdown from within the web client. (Settings > Advanced)
    New feature: Web port is now randomized by default.
    New feature: Automatically opens preferred web browser by default on start.
    UX-Upgrade: stores on home page are now scrollable.
    Tests converted to formal unit tests, travis integration.
    Code reorganization, normalization, cleanup, refactors.
    Debian binary now lintian error and warning free.
    Compatibility and stability improvements in configure.sh
    Search improvements

Beta 3.0 (October 31):

    Emphasis on increasing unit testing coverage significantly
    More pricing options #123
    Direct transactions #121
    Add location to contract #104
    Edit contracts
    Block store
    Windows build
    Refund buyer
    Automated installation testing #630
    Improved notary selection
    Simple arbitration system
    NSFW tagging and search filter
    Namecoin integration
    Shipping address improvements #433
    Network stability improvements (fix zmq errors)

Beta 4.0 (November 30)

    UI and UX overhaul (Mike's changes)
    Reputation network (WoT)
    Reviews
    Tor integration
    Instant messaging integrated #192
    Login and password protection
    Search improvements
    Ecommerce tools (import products from other platforms, integrate with commerce tools)
    Private contracts / Private stores
    Add donation option (Tips to notary and/or dev team)

Future releases

    Simple installation on all major OS
    More Contract types
    Detailed arbitration system
    Support for auctions

[LiteCoinGuy]

there is no one killer app. bitcoin has so many use cases that it will have alot killer apps.

[Flashman]

Killer app be like the first tank in WWI ...

Bitcoin be like bear cavalry, 50,000 strong.