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Author Topic: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?  (Read 13481 times)
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November 07, 2014, 03:34:06 AM
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I decided to update the tittle of this thread. Why, every time I go on the Altcoin Discussion section on this forum, am I forced to see his shitscam thread ?
Everyone here knows it is a scam, so why is he not banned ?

I'd like this thread to be removed for the sake of the official bitcoin forum, my god guys wtf

Don't get fooled by his amazing explanations and stuff… Half on his screenshots are faked if you check well. He owns every account posting great reviews on his topic. He will make you pay the fee and then ask you to follow him so he can dump his coins on ur face Cheesy

You're warned.


Let's start by pointing out, what Ryan says in his advert:

https://i.imgur.com/7Pc5Lai.png

Especially pay attention to the highlighted areas, stating what membership of Ryan's group includes. I liked what Ryan promised, not only that I would be advised what to do, but that I would be active participant, which would also allow me to learn how successful traders operate. Maybe naive of me, but true. I specifically asked about this in my first PM to Ryan:

https://i.imgur.com/Dbd9BSZ.png

Here is what Ryan replied to me:

https://i.imgur.com/Uoj9GAZ.png

Exactly what I wanted to hear. Daily tips on coins, group meets on IRC to discuss "moves", everything is explained and I will learn something new (educational element). Sounds nice? Well the truth is that the IRC channel doesn't exist and I never spoke to any other member. As soon as I paid the membership fee, Ryan sent me a message, that the IRC channel is down and that he's working on setting up a new one. As you can see from the PM history posted down below, at first it was supposed to be up the same day, then at the end of the week/weekend. It would probably be pushed again onto the next week which I haven't paid for so I wouldn't see it's all part of the play. I even suggested other form of real-time communication, but without response.

Absence of an IRC channel was a big bummer for me, but at least first pick arrived:

https://i.imgur.com/CKsJslo.png

Seems like Ryan was artificially controlling the market with a couple of other traders and his bots. So that's how it's done? Quite a disappointment. Nevertheless I stuck with the plan and followed Ryan's directions. There were further PM's exchanged about LTCD (check PM history), but the essence was this: Accumulate above 2k, up to 2.5k and be ready for a lift-off. This was the last PM:

https://i.imgur.com/35fG3eg.png

As you may know, several hours after this message, the price of LTCD plummeted. From 2.2k to 0.8k. By complete luck, I was up early to check my trading position and managed to sell in time, rebuy under 1k and profit from this situation. But had I been following Ryan's advice, I would have been in a great loss. Strangely enough, Ryan posted in this thread about how flawlessly he played this whole event (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=765426.msg8882241#msg8882241), yet I received none of that information from him. And he had the courage to tell me later in our conversation, that I profited from LTCD sell-off because of his advice.

As a coincidence, the night before, I read this nice thread from louie6925 about trading altcoins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=785977.0). Later after that LTCD disaster, the second point from louie's post lead me to an idea, that this could all be orchestrated. What if Ryan told members of his group to buy at certain price range, filled his sell orders that way and then caused a dump to rebuy lower? Seemed only slightly probable at the time, but very probable after I realized what's this all about.

Somewhere during our conversation about LTCD, Ryan sent me this message:

https://i.imgur.com/OSLirgu.png

Great! That's why I signed up and what Ryan advertised in his other thread, I will receive detailed analysis of coins that are going to move. Something similar what Ryan does in this topic, but in advance. Well, sadly for me, I never received such information. All I got, was promises, that this day he will surely send the write-up about the coins.

https://i.imgur.com/oPWE9rR.png

What shocked me though, was that, when I expressed my objections, he told me, how much I could have gained had I traded each coin on my own, completely disregarding what he wrote several times earlier and what he said in his advert -> every move explained / entry/exit points / members briefed exactly what to do and when / strategy for each coin etc.

That's when I had enough and wanted a refund. Sadly Ryan didn't want to return my coins.

To create a full picture of the whole conversation, here is a complete history of my PM's with Ryan, ordered chronologically and divided into two images due to size.

https://i.imgur.com/F6q8KHB.png
https://i.imgur.com/EKcooGe.png

If necessary, I'm prepared to give access to my account to a reputable Sr.+ member to confirm that indeed all these messages are authentic and I didn't omit any.

I'm not a native English speaker, so I can't explain everything as clearly as I would like to, but hopefully the main message is understandable.

This lesson cost me 0.5 BTC and the time to write down this post. I won't get them back, but the least I can do is to warn other people not to make the same mistake as I did.

Judge for yourself, but my advice is clear: Stay away from RyanPumper and others alike and certainly don't pay him/them anything.

John

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i thought there were real members in his group?
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i thought there were real members in his group?

Nothing is real here

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November 10, 2014, 12:48:59 AM
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All these pump and dump groups are scammers.
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November 10, 2014, 01:03:31 AM
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i thought there were real members in his group?

Nothing is real here

Real, serious P&D groups dont advertise on threads in the altcoin section.....and don't have accept a measly .5 btc as payment to join.
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i thought there were real members in his group?

Nothing is real here

Real, serious P&D groups dont advertise on threads in the altcoin section.....and don't have accept a measly .5 btc as payment to join.

True !

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December 02, 2014, 05:18:25 PM
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Well to call it a scam goes a bit to far for me but if you look at it your way indeed it is.

But basically its just a smart guy who acts like any winner would do except the fake members stuff offcourse. Every pump is done with a reason and everybody knows that!

People trade to win money so in case of a pump they accumulate first and then try to convince others that its a good buy moment so they buy up his coins.

But basically everybody is doing that only this guy does it on a big scale.

 
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December 02, 2014, 06:31:36 PM
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Of course it's a scam. Nobody should be surprised about that.

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ofcours its a scam jesus ...

lol no ty
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yes i know it, dont trust all groups pump. they are scamers

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It's a shame that he is a scammer because he is giving really good advices shah

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think first. every pump needs buyers. pumping all in all is about making the last holder lose everything. do not participate if you dont like risk.

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Wow, what a surprise. "Ryan Pumper" is a scammer. Shocking...
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Shame on RyanPumper...such a disgrace.
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December 03, 2014, 01:44:40 PM
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This is where I wish moderators would step in and ban people like RyanPUMPER.

We don't need all this pump and dump scam shit on these forums.

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I am amazed that people went to that conclusion so fast  Grin

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This is where I wish moderators would step in and ban people like RyanPUMPER.

We don't need all this pump and dump scam shit on these forums.



Why aren't they banned btw ?
I don't get it !

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1)Put 5$ on an exchange.
2)Buy 50different alts for an amount of 0.1$ each.
3)2 or 3 of them will eventually pump.
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5)Create fake btctalk accoutns to make them post nice words about your group.
6)Post some tip taken from investopedia.
7)Make people pay you the fee.
8)Enjoy the profit

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December 04, 2014, 04:40:11 AM
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Don't get fooled by his amazing explanations and stuff… Half on his screenshots are faked if you check well. He owns every account posting great reviews on his topic. He will make you pay the fee and then ask you to follow him so he can dump his coins on ur face Cheesy

You're warned.



Let's start by pointing out, what Ryan says in his advert:

https://i.imgur.com/7Pc5Lai.png

Especially pay attention to the highlighted areas, stating what membership of Ryan's group includes. I liked what Ryan promised, not only that I would be advised what to do, but that I would be active participant, which would also allow me to learn how successful traders operate. Maybe naive of me, but true. I specifically asked about this in my first PM to Ryan:

https://i.imgur.com/Dbd9BSZ.png

Here is what Ryan replied to me:

https://i.imgur.com/Uoj9GAZ.png

Exactly what I wanted to hear. Daily tips on coins, group meets on IRC to discuss "moves", everything is explained and I will learn something new (educational element). Sounds nice? Well the truth is that the IRC channel doesn't exist and I never spoke to any other member. As soon as I paid the membership fee, Ryan sent me a message, that the IRC channel is down and that he's working on setting up a new one. As you can see from the PM history posted down below, at first it was supposed to be up the same day, then at the end of the week/weekend. It would probably be pushed again onto the next week which I haven't paid for so I wouldn't see it's all part of the play. I even suggested other form of real-time communication, but without response.

Absence of an IRC channel was a big bummer for me, but at least first pick arrived:

https://i.imgur.com/CKsJslo.png

Seems like Ryan was artificially controlling the market with a couple of other traders and his bots. So that's how it's done? Quite a disappointment. Nevertheless I stuck with the plan and followed Ryan's directions. There were further PM's exchanged about LTCD (check PM history), but the essence was this: Accumulate above 2k, up to 2.5k and be ready for a lift-off. This was the last PM:

https://i.imgur.com/35fG3eg.png

As you may know, several hours after this message, the price of LTCD plummeted. From 2.2k to 0.8k. By complete luck, I was up early to check my trading position and managed to sell in time, rebuy under 1k and profit from this situation. But had I been following Ryan's advice, I would have been in a great loss. Strangely enough, Ryan posted in this thread about how flawlessly he played this whole event (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=765426.msg8882241#msg8882241), yet I received none of that information from him. And he had the courage to tell me later in our conversation, that I profited from LTCD sell-off because of his advice.

As a coincidence, the night before, I read this nice thread from louie6925 about trading altcoins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=785977.0). Later after that LTCD disaster, the second point from louie's post lead me to an idea, that this could all be orchestrated. What if Ryan told members of his group to buy at certain price range, filled his sell orders that way and then caused a dump to rebuy lower? Seemed only slightly probable at the time, but very probable after I realized what's this all about.

Somewhere during our conversation about LTCD, Ryan sent me this message:

https://i.imgur.com/OSLirgu.png

Great! That's why I signed up and what Ryan advertised in his other thread, I will receive detailed analysis of coins that are going to move. Something similar what Ryan does in this topic, but in advance. Well, sadly for me, I never received such information. All I got, was promises, that this day he will surely send the write-up about the coins.

https://i.imgur.com/oPWE9rR.png

What shocked me though, was that, when I expressed my objections, he told me, how much I could have gained had I traded each coin on my own, completely disregarding what he wrote several times earlier and what he said in his advert -> every move explained / entry/exit points / members briefed exactly what to do and when / strategy for each coin etc.

That's when I had enough and wanted a refund. Sadly Ryan didn't want to return my coins.

To create a full picture of the whole conversation, here is a complete history of my PM's with Ryan, ordered chronologically and divided into two images due to size.

https://i.imgur.com/F6q8KHB.png
https://i.imgur.com/EKcooGe.png

If necessary, I'm prepared to give access to my account to a reputable Sr.+ member to confirm that indeed all these messages are authentic and I didn't omit any.

I'm not a native English speaker, so I can't explain everything as clearly as I would like to, but hopefully the main message is understandable.

This lesson cost me 0.5 BTC and the time to write down this post. I won't get them back, but the least I can do is to warn other people not to make the same mistake as I did.

Judge for yourself, but my advice is clear: Stay away from RyanPumper and others alike and certainly don't pay him/them anything.

John

Sounds just like @Altcointips or Fortress Crypto.

Took me for .25 and three dumps.  Feel free to visit @Altscamtips to ease the pain... screw pump groups buy blue chip.  $PINK $SYNC
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