galdur
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December 08, 2014, 02:36:04 AM |
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Here we go again.
"Here we go again, lunatics asking for evidence." "Why can't they take it on blind faith that this incredibly suspicious service will continue paying them for 5 years without any maintenance fees?" People will only stop asking for this evidence once it is provided and nobody should have bought into these services without such evidence in the first. Whatever happens with these companies is all of their own making and they can put a stop to these question quite easily if they are legitimate. Refusing to provide the evidence simply harms their business, so it's a logical conclusion that they're not legitimate. Fine, you´re not gonna buy. Good for you.
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Mabsark
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December 08, 2014, 02:46:46 AM |
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Here we go again.
"Here we go again, lunatics asking for evidence." "Why can't they take it on blind faith that this incredibly suspicious service will continue paying them for 5 years without any maintenance fees?" People will only stop asking for this evidence once it is provided and nobody should have bought into these services without such evidence in the first. Whatever happens with these companies is all of their own making and they can put a stop to these question quite easily if they are legitimate. Refusing to provide the evidence simply harms their business, so it's a logical conclusion that they're not legitimate. Fine, you´re not gonna buy. Good for you. And hopefully, newcomers won't buy from companies like this either until they stop acting so scammy and provide some evidence of legitimacy.
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galdur
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December 08, 2014, 02:50:17 AM |
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Point taken.
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galdur
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December 08, 2014, 03:12:14 AM |
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That's 98% of the theoretical payout. So, why is that percentage considerably different from last weeks payout? The only reasonable explanation for that difference is that they're paying out from blocks mined like CEX.io and it's just variance. So, have any of your payments been above theoretical value and what blocks have Cloudminr mined.
Why would cloud miner refuse to provide evidence of mined blocks? And if all your payments are under theoretical value then that's rather suspicious wouldn't you say? Tell you what Mabsarak, I´m gonna back you on this. cloudminr, please comply and provide the requested data.
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Chris_Sabian
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December 08, 2014, 03:20:40 AM |
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That's 98% of the theoretical payout. So, why is that percentage considerably different from last weeks payout? The only reasonable explanation for that difference is that they're paying out from blocks mined like CEX.io and it's just variance. So, have any of your payments been above theoretical value and what blocks have Cloudminr mined.
Why would cloud miner refuse to provide evidence of mined blocks? And if all your payments are under theoretical value then that's rather suspicious wouldn't you say? Tell you what Mabsarak, I´m gonna back you on this. cloudminr, please comply and provide the requested data. I asked these questions on November 8 and got a very vague reply: A few questions:
*Which pool are you using to mine?
*Which mining company did you purchase hardware?
*Can you post your mining pool address?
*Can you post a 3rd party verification of your operation?
Applying for free 10 GH/s
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galdur
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December 08, 2014, 03:27:30 AM |
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All right, these seem reasonable questions.
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Mabsark
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December 08, 2014, 03:49:35 AM |
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Here's the response to those questions: All we can say is that the main components of miners (ASIC chips and PCB boards) come directly from the manufacturer in China with an order quantity discount. We cannot reveal more specific details such as prices and the manufacturer due to agreements we had to agree on to get the deals.
We don't have a pool of our own, as mentioned previously - our hashing power is split between the main pools except for KnCMiner.
Following our twitter will be enough to verify us for most, however we are open to suggestions about 3rd party verification.
We have the same fee policy as our main competitors - no fees. Doing that has certain risks but so does everything in regards to Bitcoin. The risks are likely lower than for others because our electricity costs are extremely low, however we have no information regarding our competitors energy costs. If we wanted to ask for electricity costs, our cost per GH/s would have to go lower causing a lot of doubt about us and we would have to explain the reasons over and over again. This is much simpler and less frustrating for everyone.
Can anybody tell me what Chinese companies sell bitcoin ASICs?
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galdur
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December 08, 2014, 03:55:31 AM |
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They´re in Norway right?
There must be some Norwegians around here.
Maybe they could be persuaded to go and check this out.
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Chris_Sabian
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December 08, 2014, 03:59:30 AM |
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They´re in Norway right?
There must be some Norwegians around here.
Maybe they could be persuaded to go and check this out.
This was already asked in early November: Here some questions:
a) Do you have a telephone number? b) Your domain has been registered by a "Tom Hassel" in Norway. There is indeed one Tom Hassel in Norway. When contacted, he didn't know anything about cloudminr. So where could Tom Hassel be found? c) You write in one post: "cloudminr.io is a Norwegian cloud mining company". However, there is no company registered by this name in Norway. Please explain. d) The only company in Trondheim with any connection to "Cloud" is a company which is active in candy import. e) You claim in the registry data that you are located at Olaf Tryggvasonsgate 2B in Trondheim. Nobody at this address knows anything about you or your operation. Please explain.
And their vague response: Here some questions:
a) Do you have a telephone number? b) Your domain has been registered by a "Tom Hassel" in Norway. There is indeed one Tom Hassel in Norway. When contacted, he didn't know anything about cloudminr. So where could Tom Hassel be found? c) You write in one post: "cloudminr.io is a Norwegian cloud mining company". However, there is no company registered by this name in Norway. Please explain. d) The only company in Trondheim with any connection to "Cloud" is a company which is active in candy import. e) You claim in the registry data that you are located at Olaf Tryggvasonsgate 2B in Trondheim. Nobody at this address knows anything about you or your operation. Please explain.
Should people feel safer with a phone number and an LLC, that is possible to do. However, it would be just as credible as having an email. A phone is a few dollars as well as a registering a company doesn't take longer than week. Our goal is not to convince people that we are real by creating companies that we won't use. We want people to see the way we operate, pictures of hardware and income that is not calculated by an algorithm unlike many have, while keeping a certain level of privacy. Would you post your facebook account alongside with your bitcoin address, signed? Rarely anyone would. Many transparent Bitcoin companies have failed - how many people have got their money back? Exactly. Not going all public with your business idea that tax office doubts while also not being a citizen lowers the chance of failure, while historically, results of failure don't change regardless of transparency. It is nice to see people care about things like that but in the end, it often just doesn't work that way.
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December 08, 2014, 04:14:00 AM |
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So, what was the payment like this week? Was it short again? Given the difficulty decrease, you should have got more than last week. Is that the case?
All the free miners, who did not buy any Ghs from this scammer, have been suspended by him. Bottom line is, if u have already fallen into this trap, DO NOT re-invest. Because, the day you start making ROI, the day they'll suspend U !!! Damn is this really true? Also on the comments on mined blocks proof, would really help me decide.. as well.
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galdur
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December 08, 2014, 04:18:47 AM |
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OK, I will be checking back for updates.
As for the free miners, I got one and it mined for a week
and I put the proceeds in hash. And then purchased some
more. Don´t know if they really throw out those who just
sign up to get the free miner and don´t buy anything.
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December 08, 2014, 04:20:27 AM |
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Hello, applying for the savings here!
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December 08, 2014, 08:22:59 AM |
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why payments is not confirmed yet?
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December 08, 2014, 08:44:57 AM |
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Payment non confirmed... Please fix it
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December 08, 2014, 10:12:33 AM |
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please fix payment!!!
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madmax6688
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December 08, 2014, 11:25:25 AM |
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Have today's payouts been made?
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ml73
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December 08, 2014, 12:29:24 PM |
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Payment non confirmed... Please fix it
Same here !!
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December 08, 2014, 12:52:25 PM |
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Payment non confirmed... Please fix it
Same here !! It was because of the low transaction fees, and had a medium prioirity . It has been confirmed now.
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DARKANGEL6415
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December 08, 2014, 05:16:10 PM |
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Payment non confirmed... Please fix it
Same here !! It was because of the low transaction fees, and had a medium prioirity . It has been confirmed now. i have noticed that myself in the past when transfering bitcoin. Seems the more the fee is to transfer seem to get btc transfer and confirmed faster in like 20 - 30 minutes in my experience. Then when i use sites that have like really low fees the transfers seems to take up to 90 minutes i always thought it was just me being a crackhead lol
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December 08, 2014, 06:48:55 PM |
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username = J0hnnyb
applying for 10GHS and VIP Vouchers.
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