GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[jibble]

Lets all remember josh claiming he had no control over certain sites so couldn't dump any coins ......yay another dumb ass lie

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[bitpop]

Look buds, he doesn't dump he "sells" just like he "escrows"

[bumpershot]

Just that one address verifies the lion's share of Revere's blockchain analysis. It's one of his top three "most interesting" addresses, and it can be directly tied to the PDpk... address that was speculated as being the axis of a lot of the pre-dumping maneuvers.

Nailed it. Congrats.

[bumpershot]

I don't know why, but that one address just makes me happy. This whole time all of Revere's intricate analysis was predicated on a hypothesis that hadn't really been proven. Because of exchange mixing, it could have been a whole ecosystem unrelated to GAW/Garza.

Now, with that PAjU... address being specifically identified as a source for dumping, all of that work means something. It's all real.

I have to admit, I thought you were barking up the wrong tree. Turns out you were right. Very right.

Cheers, bro.

[deep.throat]

I don't know why, but that one address just makes me happy. This whole time all of Revere's intricate analysis was predicated on a hypothesis that hadn't really been proven. Because of exchange mixing, it could have been a whole ecosystem unrelated to GAW/Garza.

Now, with that PAjU... address being specifically identified as a source for dumping, all of that work means something. It's all real.

I have to admit, I thought you were barking up the wrong tree. Turns out you were right. Very right.

Cheers, bro.

This is truly THE bullet buried in the body of the XPY community - with blockchain certainty attached to the murder.

[vObh0n]6W]

https://hashtalk.org/topic/36469/can-we-get-someone-in-here-to-see-this/54

Having said that. I am not sure I have ever been more excited about paycoin future

I think he's gone full retard now.

He even admitted dumping https://hashtalk.org/topic/36469/can-we-get-someone-in-here-to-see-this/93

[flyingplows]

The Grand Finale is happening
The shit exploding uncontrollably all around hashtalk
Homero is no longer even denying the shit that is bursting left and right
Enjoy the last moments responsibly and don't waste too much popcorns since they are one of the last

[Mi5h0]

I'm trying to imagine JG doing anything with root access and it's not a pretty thought.

This made me laugh to tears

[owlcatz]

https://hashtalk.org/topic/36469/can-we-get-someone-in-here-to-see-this/54

Having said that. I am not sure I have ever been more excited about paycoin future

I think he's gone full retard now.

He even admitted dumping https://hashtalk.org/topic/36469/can-we-get-someone-in-here-to-see-this/93

Then that Lewiscooper kid goes "ok that sounds fair just don't listen to all this fud and keep us all updates how things are getting on

You just can't get any dumber than those people. 

[kken01]

The Grand Finale is happening
The shit exploding uncontrollably all around hashtalk
Homero is no longer even denying the shit that is bursting left and right
Enjoy the last moments responsibly and don't waste too much popcorns since they are one of the last

grand finale is when the govs hammer strikes. this is just a starting dance  
so much for corporate veil. he admits of funding certain aspects from personal funds and then retrieving it by selling xpy later on

[vObh0n]6W]

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Nearly 1600 pages in and this guy thinks it's a stretch to assume the majority of the moves which netted the Garza cartel the most money were deliberate and calculated?

I had an argument a couple hundreds pages back, where I argued that most of it was planned out and the other people on this thread thought that it was mostly incompetence. I've changed my mind slightly towards the other opinion since, but not completely. But small details like this seem like they would require a lot more competence than what I think GAW has.

In this particular case, we know they lost some developers. The developers that worked on paycoin as it was weren't too competent, as the blockchain forked near the beginning.

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Excuse you, Satoshi, but exactly how in the motherloving fuck is NOT PROVIDING DESKTOP WALLETS TO A POS COIN A SMALL DETAIL?

They provided desktop wallets. The problem was that they didn't update the builds. It's not like every coin does releases all the time. Just looking over https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/releases we see a 3 month gap in releases last year.

Scam apologist. Goddamn. A genuine scam apologist.

Not every coin is backed by a $100 million non-existent coin adoption fund. Not every coin has a deluded community who believe it will replace Bitcoin. Not every coin is proof-of-stake. Not every coin is 100% hype.

Some coins don't claim shit, like Woodcoin. Woodcoin is an alt I approve of. It's never claimed shit. The price has gone up, the price has come back down. But when I came to it, it was much the same as Bitcoin was in its early days, except it was a different algo (double-skein.) All I had to do to get Woodcoin was mine some of it. And at that time it wasn't worth shit. But, what the hell. Not like my PC could mine anything else. Then I noticed I could do a thing to the wallet, and I did, and people liked it, and in the meantime they've given me twice as much as ever mined. Which is nice of them. But they're not doing it because they need me, and I didn't contribute because I thought the coin would ever be worth much. But so far it has proven to be inflation resistant, which is kind of key. Ah fuck I'm rambling.

Point is, if it turned out the creator's intentions had distinctly been to scam us all, I wouldn't spend a lot of time defending him. I'd just dump the coins I had. But so far funkenstein the dwarf and the woodcoin community in general just seem to be doing their own thing. They don't make promises, and people don't get into woodcoin looking for them. It has a true distinguishing feature, and, most importantly, it's fun.

And the reason it's fun is because none of the people involved in it had to bet their children's future on it. None of the people involved are multi-millionaires, unless they were before they got involved with it.

So what I'm saying is that if you're going to start bringing up other coins and saying, X bullshit coin was also a scam, that doesn't excuse fuck all. You and I both know why the wallets were buggy. With that much money you could hire someone, I don't give a fuck what you say. As much XPY has been dumped on through the ages, there was money to hire decent developers to do things besides build websites and databases.

But why the fuck should they when people are openly okay with a ponzi scheme for mining and a shittier ponzi for a wallet?

Not sure what you're accusing me of. I'm not saying it wasn't a scam, I didn't say any other coins were "also a scam" so "it's okay".

I'm trying to get at the truth over here. You seem to be assuming that any theory that implies bad intentions on GAW's part is automatically true, but that isn't a very good epistemology to have. If your argument is based on how much money GAW had, could you show me the math you used to figure out that GAW still has money?

[ligerzero459]

Ryan Mottley
ryan@xpydev.org


http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cnbAVXYR

Oh darn, you found me. I was trying so hard to hide my identity too.

[kken01]

i like fraud as a better term   scam seems something small like mt. gox    
this is coordinated defraud process from almost the beginning

[bitpop]

Should I listen to this gawtard?

Why did you post my name and e-mail on this BCT post?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.30960

I urge you to remove it. I have no idea with what reason it is up there, but it should not as it's my private e-mail. I don't like SPAM.

[ligerzero459]

Well he's not actually affiliated with any of the old GAW staff, besides being a former customer. So there's no real reason to have his email up there.

[Honeycutt22]

Should I listen to this gawtard?

Why did you post my name and e-mail on this BCT post?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.30960

I urge you to remove it. I have no idea with what reason it is up there, but it should not as it's my private e-mail. I don't like SPAM.

My only issue with that list is it assumes everyone there is somehow supporting Paycoin... I know at least a few people's addresses that were listed are hardcore against paycoin and were just caught up in your net.

A lot of people just watch those for the entertainment value and are in no-way associated with GAW/XPY.

[owlcatz]

Should I listen to this gawtard?

Why did you post my name and e-mail on this BCT post?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.30960

I urge you to remove it. I have no idea with what reason it is up there, but it should not as it's my private e-mail. I don't like SPAM.

It's from pastebin. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cnbAVXYR

Maybe all the whiners should get them to remove it, all bitpop did was copy it.

[bitpop]

Should I listen to this gawtard?

Why did you post my name and e-mail on this BCT post?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.30960

I urge you to remove it. I have no idea with what reason it is up there, but it should not as it's my private e-mail. I don't like SPAM.

My only issue with that list is it assumes everyone there is somehow supporting Paycoin... I know at least a few people's addresses that were listed are hardcore against paycoin and were just caught up in your net.

A lot of people just watch those for the entertainment value and are in no-way associated with GAW/XPY.

Just being transparent. Many are xpy foundation developers. This is for future claims if they say they weren't involved. Not for attacking.

I removed roberts tld, even though he's top 10 shill.

[subseaguru]

https://hashtalk.org/topic/36444/coming-clean-on-paybase

Somebody already translated this but I think I have more accurate translation to offer:

I Josh relied on a bunch of crooks and thieves like me to operate paybase and zencloud and guess what, they wanted to steal something.

They had a choice to make whether they would steal paybase and zencloud from me or whether they would steal the customer coins stored in there and unfortunately for me they chose the first option. The roll of dice could have equally well gone the other way and they could have chosen to steal the customer coins, but .... well ... actually ... they did that also.

But no worry, everything is fine now. The first set of crooks still have paybase and whatever else they stole but no worry, I am working with a second set of scammers and crooks to build new services for you to deposit coin on.

my grand father used to say "lay with dogs, you get fleas" it seems josh needs grandpa to knock him around some and put some sense in his head. fucking idiot.

[vizique]

My names on that list and I sure aint a supporter of GAW lol

but anyhoo, it's (the list) been there a while now and I know where my heads at.

carry on...