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December 17, 2014, 12:57:24 AM
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Small Exhanges Allowing the Dumping of XPY- Its a Gift
I have been going back and forth about how I feel about XPY being listed on a few of the smaller exchanges for a few days.

It was NOT part of the plan, and while it is flattering to have something that most coins spend months trying to get, a few hours in to launch, it was not our plan.

Had they waited until paybase, we could have helped managed the market right from the start. And would have prevented people from worrying.

As many of you know, this volume means nothing. But there are a lot that do not understand that.

To be honest, my thoughts have been all over the place about this. I have thought of everything from using force to have it removed, to doing nothing, to moving the market ourselves.

Here is what I have decided to settle on: its a gift.
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December 17, 2014, 01:01:11 AM
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So finally see you guys are right. I haven't seen much transparency, and even invested a ton into gaw. So I tweeted josh about putting buy support up, and also buying logically, $10 coins on exchange now, instead of $20 dollar coins later. He said so he can increase price of paycoin for people buying?

HUH, I was like what, where is logic there. People dumping now are just cheap coins for gaw to take off market now, instead of paying out $20 from paybase later.

Unbelieveable, I ask few more questions nicely, even stating I'm investor, and that I have concerns, and if 100 million dollars of support, why not use some for exchange?

THE BASTARD BLOCKS ME ON TWITTER! For asking legit questions. Concerns.

I'm dumping everything gaw, asap. Unfortunately this weasel has convinced us all to lock our zens up into hashstakers so i cannot even sell anything or exchange paycoins.

HELP, what do i do to get out of this nightmare.
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December 17, 2014, 01:06:13 AM
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Acting all shocked that the XPY is being sold cheap on small exchanges.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23940/small-exhanges-allowing-the-dumping-of-xpy-its-a-gift

Something wrong here.

Oh boy and there talking verifying accounts knew that was coming.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23945/paybase-12-22-14/11

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December 17, 2014, 01:09:37 AM
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It´s so cheap that it´s a gift.

Why on earth has the mob selling penny stocks or criminals

selling shitcoins not used that line. It´s just so original.

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December 17, 2014, 01:09:45 AM
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So finally see you guys are right. I haven't seen much transparency, and even invested a ton into gaw. So I tweeted josh about putting buy support up, and also buying logically, $10 coins on exchange now, instead of $20 dollar coins later. He said so he can increase price of paycoin for people buying?

HUH, I was like what, where is logic there. People dumping now are just cheap coins for gaw to take off market now, instead of paying out $20 from paybase later.

Unbelieveable, I ask few more questions nicely, even stating I'm investor, and that I have concerns, and if 100 million dollars of support, why not use some for exchange?

THE BASTARD BLOCKS ME ON TWITTER! For asking legit questions. Concerns.

I'm dumping everything gaw, asap. Unfortunately this weasel has convinced us all to lock our zens up into hashstakers so i cannot even sell anything or exchange paycoins.

HELP, what do i do to get out of this nightmare.

Glad you saw the light in time! Most of the smart investors over there have this nagging feeling that's something's fishy in gawland but it might be too late for them when they finally make the realization you did.

I wouldn't panic. Just focus and plan your exit strategy. If you can figure out a way to get even, maybe by selling off paycoins or things that are sellable on the market, that's what you should do. If you are stuck in items that aren't listed on the market, then you can maybe sell your account here on this forum. I'm sure there are poor souls who would buy it unfortunately for them.
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December 17, 2014, 01:11:01 AM
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So finally see you guys are right. I haven't seen much transparency, and even invested a ton into gaw. So I tweeted josh about putting buy support up, and also buying logically, $10 coins on exchange now, instead of $20 dollar coins later. He said so he can increase price of paycoin for people buying?

HUH, I was like what, where is logic there. People dumping now are just cheap coins for gaw to take off market now, instead of paying out $20 from paybase later.

Unbelieveable, I ask few more questions nicely, even stating I'm investor, and that I have concerns, and if 100 million dollars of support, why not use some for exchange?

THE BASTARD BLOCKS ME ON TWITTER! For asking legit questions. Concerns.

I'm dumping everything gaw, asap. Unfortunately this weasel has convinced us all to lock our zens up into hashstakers so i cannot even sell anything or exchange paycoins.

HELP, what do i do to get out of this nightmare.

Glad you saw the light in time! Most of the smart investors over there have this nagging feeling over there that's something's fishy but it might be too late for them when they finally make the realization you did.

I wouldn't panic. Just focus and plan your exit strategy. If you can figure out a way to get even, maybe by selling off paycoins or things that are sellable on the market, that's what you should do. If you are stuck in items that aren't listed on the market, then you can maybe sell your account here on this forum. I'm sure there are poor souls who would buy it unfortunately for them.

I'm so livid right now, even on gawminers help, they won't answer questions. can we sue these people? seriously, can we get our money back. This is insane.
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December 17, 2014, 01:12:29 AM
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So finally see you guys are right. I haven't seen much transparency, and even invested a ton into gaw. So I tweeted josh about putting buy support up, and also buying logically, $10 coins on exchange now, instead of $20 dollar coins later. He said so he can increase price of paycoin for people buying?

HUH, I was like what, where is logic there. People dumping now are just cheap coins for gaw to take off market now, instead of paying out $20 from paybase later.

Unbelieveable, I ask few more questions nicely, even stating I'm investor, and that I have concerns, and if 100 million dollars of support, why not use some for exchange?

THE BASTARD BLOCKS ME ON TWITTER! For asking legit questions. Concerns.

I'm dumping everything gaw, asap. Unfortunately this weasel has convinced us all to lock our zens up into hashstakers so i cannot even sell anything or exchange paycoins.

HELP, what do i do to get out of this nightmare.

There you go. That sums up quite nicely a few of the major concerns about this whole thing. No transparency, lock-in, ask a question get kicked.
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December 17, 2014, 01:14:01 AM
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Small Exhanges Allowing the Dumping of XPY- Its a Gift

Said josh.

Allowing ? Is this guy for real ? And he can´t even spell exchange.

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December 17, 2014, 01:14:58 AM
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can we sue these people? seriously, can we get our money back. This is insane.

What are you going to sue them for?

Breaking the ever-changing contract of their unregistered security?
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December 17, 2014, 01:16:05 AM
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Just in case this was missed

Acting all shocked that the XPY is being sold cheap on small exchanges.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23940/small-exhanges-allowing-the-dumping-of-xpy-its-a-gift

Something wrong here.

Oh boy and there talking verifying accounts knew that was coming.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23945/paybase-12-22-14/11

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December 17, 2014, 01:16:40 AM
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This page doesn't exist anymore. Hmmmm?

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23940/small-exhanges-allowing-the-dumping-of-xpy-its-a-gift
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Try it now its there

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December 17, 2014, 01:18:14 AM
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Small Exhanges Allowing the Dumping of XPY- Its a Gift
I have been going back and forth about how I feel about XPY being listed on a few of the smaller exchanges for a few days.

It was NOT part of the plan, and while it is flattering to have something that most coins spend months trying to get, a few hours in to launch, it was not our plan.

Had they waited until paybase, we could have helped managed the market right from the start. And would have prevented people from worrying.

As many of you know, this volume means nothing. But there are a lot that do not understand that.

To be honest, my thoughts have been all over the place about this. I have thought of everything from using force to have it removed, to doing nothing, to moving the market ourselves.

Here is what I have decided to settle on: its a gift.

And he still is avoiding to firmly state the floor Smiley

Also this: "Less than 15% of them have dumped." (that is 15% of miners). I think given the 500-600 BTC daily volume on coin-swap alone this is incorrect, but of course no way to prove conclusively.
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So finally see you guys are right. I haven't seen much transparency, and even invested a ton into gaw. So I tweeted josh about putting buy support up, and also buying logically, $10 coins on exchange now, instead of $20 dollar coins later. He said so he can increase price of paycoin for people buying?

HUH, I was like what, where is logic there. People dumping now are just cheap coins for gaw to take off market now, instead of paying out $20 from paybase later.

Unbelieveable, I ask few more questions nicely, even stating I'm investor, and that I have concerns, and if 100 million dollars of support, why not use some for exchange?

THE BASTARD BLOCKS ME ON TWITTER! For asking legit questions. Concerns.

I'm dumping everything gaw, asap. Unfortunately this weasel has convinced us all to lock our zens up into hashstakers so i cannot even sell anything or exchange paycoins.

HELP, what do i do to get out of this nightmare.

Glad you saw the light in time! Most of the smart investors over there have this nagging feeling over there that's something's fishy but it might be too late for them when they finally make the realization you did.

I wouldn't panic. Just focus and plan your exit strategy. If you can figure out a way to get even, maybe by selling off paycoins or things that are sellable on the market, that's what you should do. If you are stuck in items that aren't listed on the market, then you can maybe sell your account here on this forum. I'm sure there are poor souls who would buy it unfortunately for them.

I'm so livid right now, even on gawminers help, they won't answer questions. can we sue these people? seriously, can we get our money back. This is insane.

Stay cool man and don't act in haste.  Don't make irrational decisions.  Depending on how this thing pans out, you will likely be able to get your money back and then some.  Just start unwinding AS SOON as you have the chance.  If a lot of $ is locked up on hashstakers, call them directly and kick up a shit storm.  I imagine they will wilt eventually and give you your money back.
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December 17, 2014, 01:26:34 AM
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Can somebody please tell me when we will be able to deposit paycoin into the hashstakers?
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December 17, 2014, 01:28:31 AM
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Just in case this was missed

Acting all shocked that the XPY is being sold cheap on small exchanges.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23940/small-exhanges-allowing-the-dumping-of-xpy-its-a-gift

Something wrong here.

Oh boy and there talking verifying accounts knew that was coming.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23945/paybase-12-22-14/11

Paybase postponed by 3 days to the December 22 and KYC verification needed, so no more Christmas shopping pressure. Then there is this prioritization thing, not clear how it's going to work. I think we are seeing a bit of stalling, but nothing too major yet. We'll see how long it takes to get verified.
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December 17, 2014, 01:28:41 AM
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Think is I want to believe in Gaw, but why cannot they just answer questions? Why do they hide investors from us, or not let us know the plan? I'm just not understanding the logic here?

I cannot at this point in game see any real reason big investors or writeups in news online would not be happening, this is the stage for massive appeal and getting people on board.

I mean this zinc app is really last straw, even though my gut told me the video of the mining warehouse was sight to get out, I'm really pissed about the browser extention for chrome. Sure it's cool, i'll be honest, but it's not 100 million dollar cool.

I expected 100 times more by now, and got 100 times less.
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December 17, 2014, 01:29:04 AM
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The initial Proof-of-Work, or mining phase, for PayCoin was set to end on December 19th. Due to the massive success and hashpower pointed at the PayCoin network a stall was experienced at block 277. The reason for the stall was determined to be a protection mechanism which exists in most coins to prevent certain types of network attacks.

The growth of the coins network caused the difficulty to increase by a very large magnitude in a short amount of time which no other coins have had to deal with in the past.

Yeah sure, it couldn't be the fact that you f*cked with the code so the difficult changes wildly, now could it?

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23945/paybase-12-22-14
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December 17, 2014, 01:29:10 AM
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I think he just ruined Christmas for a lot of people. I really and honestly feel bad for them. They will not be able to get verified in time to get their Hashpoints cashed out before Christmas. Many people had more than everything they had in this.
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December 17, 2014, 01:29:34 AM
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Can somebody please tell me when we will be able to deposit paycoin into the hashstakers?

Presumably this weekend. Don't take my word for it, try to follow the announcements on HT. Things are very fluid at the moment.
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