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February 21, 2015, 09:25:11 PM
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Just a glimpse into the short and long term roadmap under the Sapience Space Program/XSA:


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February 21, 2015, 09:31:30 PM
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Just a glimpse into the short and long term roadmap under the Sapience Space Program/XSA:


amaizing yay 😍 looking forward

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February 21, 2015, 09:32:30 PM
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you lost me at Xainode tokens
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February 21, 2015, 09:36:31 PM
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Just a glimpse into the short and long term roadmap under the Sapience Space Program/XSA:



Literally to the moon  Grin
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February 21, 2015, 09:42:08 PM
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2 questions:

Is this a joke?
If not, why?
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February 21, 2015, 09:53:36 PM
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2 questions:

Is this a joke?
If not, why?
hi, let me try and explain. the picture you see is roadmap! atm we are at first stage "AICore" that just got released in testnet, if you missed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864895.msg10529038#msg10529038 be free to test it if you doubt in joe's skillz
so basically yes sapience is slowly but for sure going to the moon  Cheesy step by step

EDIT: here you go
Public Testnet Wallet


sapience-qt-plm-windows64bit-19.zip 9.9 MB

This is a latest build from today that you can experiment with to see what it is we are building in action.  It is a bleeding-edge TEST build and therefore it will have bugs, issues, etc.  The Python shell is disabled in this Windows build while I sort through mingw issues and debate whether to swap to Lua.

You should only run this on testnet and not on mainnet with your wallets you care about.

You can either pass testnet from the command line:

Code:
start sapience-qt.exe -testnet

Or put an entry in your Sapience.conf file:

Code:
testnet=1

Note that since it is on testnet, we may reset the blockchain from time to time etc.  We'll try to give a heads up.  Also you will need coins on testnet to pay for data reservations, please post on the dfx.io forum thread for that:  http://forums.dfx.io/index.php?topic=82.0

The core of PlumeDB is fully functional in this build and we already have someone who is building an interesting demo app on top of it that looks pretty awesome.

Have fun!

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February 21, 2015, 09:56:10 PM
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If not, why?
Bitcoin has nodes in space(Or has plans too). Xai will do the same Smiley If all nodes on earth fail, we will still have our low orbit node. And this coin along with xqn can rival bitcoin.
 
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February 21, 2015, 10:14:26 PM
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I see! Thanks.
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February 21, 2015, 10:19:15 PM
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And xainodes tokens are...another asset issued like in counterparty, something akin to dark coin masternodes reward token,another functioning token in addition to XAI and XQN, or something else?
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February 21, 2015, 10:39:43 PM
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2 questions:

Is this a joke?
If not, why?

No joke.

XAI is really a lot more than "just" an "AI coin".  Sapience AIFX is intended to be a complete next-gen advanced blockchain platform, but deeply rooted in the Bitcoin protocol, building on top of and making full use of the capabilities that already exist in the Bitcoin protocol but that, to date, have been largely underutilized by alt-coins.  Why reinvent the wheel to produce so-called "Bitcoin 2.0" platforms when there is so much yet to be realized within the existing well-defined protocol specification.  So, to me, maybe this is "Bitcoin 3.0" concept, revisiting the roots...I dunno.

Next up on the roadmap is completion of the AI Core.  This leverages the Plume data store solution to provide a scriptable AI lib with an in-wallet script editor and interactive shell.  Most likely this shell is going to be swapped from Python to Lua for a couple of reasons:

1. Easier cross-platform compilation and integration
2. Lua has already gained a lot of traction in the game world for scriptable game AI
3. Its a lot more lightweight and therefore more resource friendly for devices like Raspberry Pi and Android

We have our own asset platform in the works, based on Counterparty but fully integrated in-wallet requiring no external daemon etc.  Our intention is to deliver a high quality user experience and make this really accessible to pull in folks from the regular investing world, decentralized with no dependency on web wallets etc.  Initially we will probably roll out an in-between solution.

Once the asset platform is up we are planning to do an issue of "xainodes" tokens that will be something akin to Bitshares AGS and operate as a DAC/DAO on the XAI blockchain, and possibly a vehicle to provide dev funding through the rest of this year.

XaiNet - We have already demo'd a PoC of IBTP in action.  This is our cross-blockchain communication solution that is really out-of-the-box Bitcoin P2P.  I simply dropped in the IBTP class and added an addnode in Litecoin and Shadow config files to connect them to my XAI node.  This allows us to send cross-coin-network messages directly between peers using the existing messaging structure in the Bitcoin protocol, but is smart enough so that peers from "foreign" networks don't try to exchange block inventory with each other etc.  This capability will allow us to hook both the scriptable AI engine and the asset platform in to every other coin network and allow us to then do interesting things with data from those networks and share services between them.

Our NextGen wallet is a complete Qt front-end wallet rewrite to provide a user experience that is more "with the times" and consistent across devices and platforms with flickable touch interfaces, etc.  This is really the key in our minds to gaining traction with a larger audience in the mass market.

As part of the NextGen wallet rewrite we are going to enable an NFC payments experience for users, for a simpler alternative to QR codes.

The #LunarNode project is a real endeavor on the long range roadmap.  It's the stretch goal / dream big goal for our project overall.  As a first step we would like to launch a XaiSat into low earth orbit.  These micro satellites are now widely available although they tend to have a short lifespan in space, but the standardization of the form factor since the late 90's has brought the cost down considerably.  There are a couple of engineering challenges we will need to solve around optimized synchronization/communication and equipment power, optimizing the code base for running on a low power device with lower power consumption.  There are a couple of interesting inspiring projects like the LunarSail project that are looking at alternatives for transit to the lunar area, as well as a faster delivery vehicle in development.  LunarSail is projecting something like a 3 year transit time to the moon, but there are a few other projects that we might be able to pull tech from and combine them to produce a faster transit time.  There's a project right now looking at using pressurized water.  So as a second step we would like to shoot for getting to lunar orbit, and then attempt de-orbit and a landing on the surface.  Our idea is perhaps a bit less ambitious than the Doge lunar race in that we aren't looking to transport and produce a mobile rover.  We simply want to deploy a functioning self-powered node on the surface, which we are thinking will entail something in the CubeSat form factor that can then "unfold" itself on the surface to provide more exposed solar panel surface area, etc.

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February 21, 2015, 10:52:57 PM
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2 questions:

Is this a joke?
If not, why?

No joke.

XAI is really a lot more than "just" an "AI coin".  Sapience AIFX is intended to be a complete next-gen advanced blockchain platform, but deeply rooted in the Bitcoin protocol, building on top of and making full use of the capabilities that already exist in the Bitcoin protocol but that, to date, have been largely underutilized by alt-coins.  Why reinvent the wheel to produce so-called "Bitcoin 2.0" platforms when there is so much yet to be realized within the existing well-defined protocol specification.  So, to me, maybe this is "Bitcoin 3.0" concept, revisiting the roots...I dunno.

Next up on the roadmap is completion of the AI Core.  This leverages the Plume data store solution to provide a scriptable AI lib with an in-wallet script editor and interactive shell.  Most likely this shell is going to be swapped from Python to Lua for a couple of reasons:

1. Easier cross-platform compilation and integration
2. Lua has already gained a lot of traction in the game world for scriptable game AI
3. Its a lot more lightweight and therefore more resource friendly for devices like Raspberry Pi and Android

We have our own asset platform in the works, based on Counterparty but fully integrated in-wallet requiring no external daemon etc.  Our intention is to deliver a high quality user experience and make this really accessible to pull in folks from the regular investing world, decentralized with no dependency on web wallets etc.  Initially we will probably roll out an in-between solution.

Once the asset platform is up we are planning to do an issue of "xainodes" tokens that will be something akin to Bitshares AGS and operate as a DAC/DAO on the XAI blockchain, and possibly a vehicle to provide dev funding through the rest of this year.

XaiNet - We have already demo'd a PoC of IBTP in action.  This is our cross-blockchain communication solution that is really out-of-the-box Bitcoin P2P.  I simply dropped in the IBTP class and added an addnode in Litecoin and Shadow config files to connect them to my XAI node.  This allows us to send cross-coin-network messages directly between peers using the existing messaging structure in the Bitcoin protocol, but is smart enough so that peers from "foreign" networks don't try to exchange block inventory with each other etc.  This capability will allow us to hook both the scriptable AI engine and the asset platform in to every other coin network and allow us to then do interesting things with data from those networks and share services between them.

Our NextGen wallet is a complete Qt front-end wallet rewrite to provide a user experience that is more "with the times" and consistent across devices and platforms with flickable touch interfaces, etc.  This is really the key in our minds to gaining traction with a larger audience in the mass market.

As part of the NextGen wallet rewrite we are going to enable an NFC payments experience for users, for a simpler alternative to QR codes.

The #LunarNode project is a real endeavor on the long range roadmap.  It's the stretch goal / dream big goal for our project overall.  As a first step we would like to launch a XaiSat into low earth orbit.  These micro satellites are now widely available although they tend to have a short lifespan in space, but the standardization of the form factor since the late 90's has brought the cost down considerably.  There are a couple of engineering challenges we will need to solve around optimized synchronization/communication and equipment power, optimizing the code base for running on a low power device with lower power consumption.  There are a couple of interesting inspiring projects like the LunarSail project that are looking at alternatives for transit to the lunar area, as well as a faster delivery vehicle in development.  LunarSail is projecting something like a 3 year transit time to the moon, but there are a few other projects that we might be able to pull tech from and combine them to produce a faster transit time.  There's a project right now looking at using pressurized water.  So as a second step we would like to shoot for getting to lunar orbit, and then attempt de-orbit and a landing on the surface.  Our idea is perhaps a bit less ambitious than the Doge lunar race in that we aren't looking to transport and produce a mobile rover.  We simply want to deploy a functioning self-powered node on the surface, which we are thinking will entail something in the CubeSat form factor that can then "unfold" itself on the surface to provide more exposed solar panel surface area, etc.
thank you for this fabulous answer joe   Shocked "thumbs up"

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February 21, 2015, 10:55:44 PM
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2 questions:

Is this a joke?
If not, why?

No joke.

XAI is really a lot more than "just" an "AI coin".  Sapience AIFX is intended to be a complete next-gen advanced blockchain platform, but deeply rooted in the Bitcoin protocol, building on top of and making full use of the capabilities that already exist in the Bitcoin protocol but that, to date, have been largely underutilized by alt-coins.  Why reinvent the wheel to produce so-called "Bitcoin 2.0" platforms when there is so much yet to be realized within the existing well-defined protocol specification.  So, to me, maybe this is "Bitcoin 3.0" concept, revisiting the roots...I dunno.

Next up on the roadmap is completion of the AI Core.  This leverages the Plume data store solution to provide a scriptable AI lib with an in-wallet script editor and interactive shell.  Most likely this shell is going to be swapped from Python to Lua for a couple of reasons:

1. Easier cross-platform compilation and integration
2. Lua has already gained a lot of traction in the game world for scriptable game AI
3. Its a lot more lightweight and therefore more resource friendly for devices like Raspberry Pi and Android

We have our own asset platform in the works, based on Counterparty but fully integrated in-wallet requiring no external daemon etc.  Our intention is to deliver a high quality user experience and make this really accessible to pull in folks from the regular investing world, decentralized with no dependency on web wallets etc.  Initially we will probably roll out an in-between solution.

Once the asset platform is up we are planning to do an issue of "xainodes" tokens that will be something akin to Bitshares AGS and operate as a DAC/DAO on the XAI blockchain, and possibly a vehicle to provide dev funding through the rest of this year.

XaiNet - We have already demo'd a PoC of IBTP in action.  This is our cross-blockchain communication solution that is really out-of-the-box Bitcoin P2P.  I simply dropped in the IBTP class and added an addnode in Litecoin and Shadow config files to connect them to my XAI node.  This allows us to send cross-coin-network messages directly between peers using the existing messaging structure in the Bitcoin protocol, but is smart enough so that peers from "foreign" networks don't try to exchange block inventory with each other etc.  This capability will allow us to hook both the scriptable AI engine and the asset platform in to every other coin network and allow us to then do interesting things with data from those networks and share services between them.

Our NextGen wallet is a complete Qt front-end wallet rewrite to provide a user experience that is more "with the times" and consistent across devices and platforms with flickable touch interfaces, etc.  This is really the key in our minds to gaining traction with a larger audience in the mass market.

As part of the NextGen wallet rewrite we are going to enable an NFC payments experience for users, for a simpler alternative to QR codes.

The #LunarNode project is a real endeavor on the long range roadmap.  It's the stretch goal / dream big goal for our project overall.  As a first step we would like to launch a XaiSat into low earth orbit.  These micro satellites are now widely available although they tend to have a short lifespan in space, but the standardization of the form factor since the late 90's has brought the cost down considerably.  There are a couple of engineering challenges we will need to solve around optimized synchronization/communication and equipment power, optimizing the code base for running on a low power device with lower power consumption.  There are a couple of interesting inspiring projects like the LunarSail project that are looking at alternatives for transit to the lunar area, as well as a faster delivery vehicle in development.  LunarSail is projecting something like a 3 year transit time to the moon, but there are a few other projects that we might be able to pull tech from and combine them to produce a faster transit time.  There's a project right now looking at using pressurized water.  So as a second step we would like to shoot for getting to lunar orbit, and then attempt de-orbit and a landing on the surface.  Our idea is perhaps a bit less ambitious than the Doge lunar race in that we aren't looking to transport and produce a mobile rover.  We simply want to deploy a functioning self-powered node on the surface, which we are thinking will entail something in the CubeSat form factor that can then "unfold" itself on the surface to provide more exposed solar panel surface area, etc.

This is Teslaesque crazy/brilliant
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February 21, 2015, 11:00:50 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to write all that.  I know you are busy.
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This is quite an exciting project


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February 22, 2015, 02:06:47 AM
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"we are planning to do an issue of "xainodes" tokens that will be something akin to Bitshares AGS"

Hopefully, this will at have a snapshot type distribution for XAI holders, as there was for PTS holders in the case of AGS.  I don't want to have to sell XAI to buy Xainodes.
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February 22, 2015, 02:46:01 AM
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"we are planning to do an issue of "xainodes" tokens that will be something akin to Bitshares AGS"

Hopefully, this will at have a snapshot type distribution for XAI holders, as there was for PTS holders in the case of AGS.  I don't want to have to sell XAI to buy Xainodes.

I second that. I would also like to note XQN has NO COIN CAP....please explain why this is a good thing? I assume the same is for XAI? Great you can make more just like the FED is printing more of our money.

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February 22, 2015, 02:51:36 AM
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Just curious how long/many coins it takes to begin staking? I've only got 12 at the moment, but working on getting more.
So far no signs of staking.
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February 22, 2015, 03:00:20 AM
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Very interesting..thank you for clearing that up for me. Has anyone seen transcendent man? ....i just downloaded this documentary i am about to watch. i am a proud owner of 200k+ XQN and 2k_+XAI  good luck dev. BTW. it was me who put up the 17 BTC buy wall for XQN other day. Wink

- why didnt i post earlier? ....

-my account has been banned from bitcointalk for some B.S.

I am very glad i found this coin. Good luck to all. I am surprised so many are still sleeping on this however...

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February 22, 2015, 04:52:30 AM
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"we are planning to do an issue of "xainodes" tokens that will be something akin to Bitshares AGS"

Hopefully, this will at have a snapshot type distribution for XAI holders, as there was for PTS holders in the case of AGS.  I don't want to have to sell XAI to buy Xainodes.

I second that. I would also like to note XQN has NO COIN CAP....please explain why this is a good thing? I assume the same is for XAI? Great you can make more just like the FED is printing more of our money.

There is nothing wrong with a little inflation, coins get lost over time and more users join the ecosystem, the problem is runaway inflation with no consequences.
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February 22, 2015, 06:22:51 AM
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"we are planning to do an issue of "xainodes" tokens that will be something akin to Bitshares AGS"

Hopefully, this will at have a snapshot type distribution for XAI holders, as there was for PTS holders in the case of AGS.  I don't want to have to sell XAI to buy Xainodes.

So I just read the developer's post and it is one of the most well-thought out, clear, and forward thinking discussions I've seen. It's exactly the sort of exciting project that I thought crypto would bring about. Then again, everyone else seems to be content to play with their BitBeans and other shit, so maybe I'm just naive in thinking a real project with a real developer is really interesting.

Honestly, I think we need to wait before asking for freebies until we hear what the XAInode concept is. The developer has given us a pretty clear and well-explained potential roadmap. How many coins do that and also have clear proof of concepts they can point to, showing that they have the talent to actually accomplish what they are setting out to do?

Also, I wouldn't necessarily use a snapshot from PTS as a point of comparison since they stitched together over 10 assets and, from reading some posts on their forum, there was dilution. Overall, their system seems very confusing.

Anyway, good job dev!
Thanks.

The way AGS worked, was that they put up half the AGS for sale for BTC and half for PTS in an auction format spread daily over 200 days.  They later took a snapshot of PTS in order to kill that blockchain and migrate it into an asset on top of BitShares that you can still "mine" by basically buying the equivalent supply that they put up for sale (at least that's the understanding I got out of their complicated diagram and writeup).  The AGS donors get a 10% gift of any new DAC/asset/token that the bitshares people create.

The way that the XAI asset platform is planned to work is that there will be the base "token" used for things like issuing new assets, with an ongoing burn period in a 1:1 ratio, so the base token is simply an intermediary to get in and out of the asset platform.  Actually I'd love to remove the dependency on an intermediary token altogether but that is not trivial to do.  Then we will have the xainodes token as the first asset on the platform.  I haven't really hammered out numbers yet but maybe we could do something like AGS where you can use either XAI or LTC or BTC to acquire the tokens.  All that is still to be determined.

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