It's funny to see these thugs in Ferguson bitching about how they have nothing

[solid12345]

...when they have thousands of dollars of ink tatted all over their bodies and up their arms.

This is what people mean by the "entitled" culture. People think a paycheck is meant to blow on fun stuff while the government picks up the tab for your basic necessities like food, housing, healthcare or child care.

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[Chef Ramsay]

It mostly stems from how people raise their kids and whether they're financially responsible when they decide to conceive and/or play around. On the heels of this latest round of amnesty, many in this aforementioned community are going to have an even harder time competing for lower level work and very few will squeak into an upwardly mobile status. The media has been showcasing the ghetto trash first and foremost when there were plenty of instances of peaceful protesting. And, the race baiters are always given a preferential platform to speak on behalf of the inner city community and too many of inner city folk are left to believe that these baiters are a legit representation and expectation of said community. Lastly, the war on drugs features black market profits to be made and keeps many from even trying to participate in the legal work market and before you know it, wrap sheets pile up and keep certain people stuck in this lifestyle forever.

[gogxmagog]

Generational poverty. Granpa had nothing, Dad had nothing, kids have nothing, thier kids have nothing. It goes on and on. They do however manage to cling to a misplaced sense of pride, and an irrational fear/envy/hatered of anyone who has been fiscally responsable and has anything to show for it.
The reality of "Gangster Lifestyle" is that it is a totally hand-to-mouth existance. they may flash a few thousand dollars around at the club, but it is really easy to spend that kind of money at a club or via an ignorant lifestyle. They are perpetually going broke and therefore perpetually on the take, after your hard earned money, even if they have to kill you to get it. But a cop (earns ~ what ateacher makes, with no 2 months paid vacation every year, namely not that much) who is tasked with trying to do damage control around these entitled morons, that cop is guaranteed corrupt, evil, murderous and racist to boot!

I've got a teenager of my own at home, and while she is a good kid, and we have her thinking about money and her future, she is obliged to work and save and keep her grades up and she is going to college wether she likes it or not...she is still a teen ager. Teenage logic goes like this; teenager is doing something they KNOW they shouldnt be doing, teenager gets busted by an adult. Teenager screams blue murder, so unfair! Adult is way out of line, isnt respecting me! has no right! blah blah blah! Its always someone else's fault, NEVER is it "You are right, I was wrong, I am sorry, please let me make amends." NEVER. It is called scapegoating; deflecting blame. I cant believe everyone is so angry that this cop stopped this kid who blatantly stole from a store, then attacked him physically when he was doing his job and wound up getting shot! They say "kid" he was over 6 feet tall, athletic, and obviously with a bad "tough guy" attitude... I'd be pretty afraid too.

I'm not saying there arent problems, especially in USA, but that does not mean that it is a free pass for every bottom feeder and opportunist out there to rob steal and intimidate unchecked and unfettered. seriously. The system is far from perfect, but it is infinitely preferable to how things would be if the thugs were in charge. They cant even operate a laundry machine ffs

[BADecker]

In a required-to-open-carry State, the whole scene would change.

There will always be problems in life, in relations among people. But with required open carry, things would ultimately settle down, just so folks could live.

The ONLY reason for anti-gun laws is so that a smooth government operation for raping and plundering their own people can be carried out.

The anti-gun mentality is propaganda brainwashing perpetrated on the people, by their government, using the people's wishes for peace to implement the brainwashing, so that government can systematically rape and plunder the people.

That's it. Period.

[chopstick]

Oh look, another ignorant race-baiting thread.

It's only the 100th one I've seen this week

[junglist.massive]

and they was on street till night because they don't have  to wake up early for work

[TheButterZone]

Isn't it just prison ink everyone got while being imprisoned for committing victimless crimes?

[Hippie Tech]

...when they have thousands of dollars of ink tatted all over their bodies and up their arms.

This is what people mean by the "entitled" culture. People think a paycheck is meant to blow on fun stuff while the government picks up the tab for your basic necessities like food, housing, healthcare or child care.

You forgot to mention the cost your fascist oBomBa country incurred when they decided to bomb 60+ countries since WWII.

I'm sure you don't mind paying that tab.

[deluxeCITY]

...when they have thousands of dollars of ink tatted all over their bodies and up their arms.

This is what people mean by the "entitled" culture. People think a paycheck is meant to blow on fun stuff while the government picks up the tab for your basic necessities like food, housing, healthcare or child care.

I agree 100%. Much of the "poor" population does not understand the reason why people need to work for a living and are used to relying on government assistance for their basic necessities.

This is why they were able to "protest" (aka riot) all night when the grand jury decision was announced as they did not have to work as they were willing to give up a little money they could blow (or more likely were not working in the first place) on stuff they never needed in the first place nor could they afford if they were actually supporting themselves

[gogxmagog]

The whole thing is making me sick actually. I'm shaking my head... this article here puts it well... USA gots problemos...
http://streetcarnage.com/blog/the-left-lost-in-ferguson/
The "[The Left's] racially divisive political agenda" part confuses me, I'm not sure what he means by that, but obviously, the problem in the States is out of hand. I mean, those rioters down there arent my friends, they hate me, and I wouldnt go down there no matter. I dont think anyone knows what to do.

[saddampbuh]

its all because of slavery haven't you heard

[Lethn]

Oh look, another ignorant race-baiting thread.

It's only the 100th one I've seen this week

I like to think that the issue is more of the fact that police think they can get away with shooting unarmed people for no reason which is what everybody should be concerned about, but then again, it seems as though I have totally different priorities from other people, like giving a shit about someone's skin colour and I am in a very small minority.

[solid12345]

Oh look, another ignorant race-baiting thread.

It's only the 100th one I've seen this week

What does race have to do with this? Only black people get tattoos?

I grew up in Oklahoma son, i've known my fair share of white, black AND Indian trash, people who go out and piss away their paycheck on slot machines, lotto tickets, weed and renting big screen TVs while they collect a welfare check. Look if you want to lead a hand-to-mouth existence, that's one thing, but don't come crying to society you can't afford healthcare while you just dropped 300 grand on a pair of Air Yeezys or a PS4.

The worst was the mob in Ferguson going on TV DEMANDING the government come rebuild their stores after the "community" burned it to the ground, pathetic.  

[Lethn]

The worst was the mob in Ferguson going on TV DEMANDING the government come rebuild their stores after the "community" burned it to the ground, pathetic.   

LOL! Americans

[stevegreer]

The worst was the mob in Ferguson going on TV DEMANDING the government come rebuild their stores after the "community" burned it to the ground, pathetic.   

LOL! Americans

LOL Americans nothing! Don't group those of us law-abiding citizens who work our asses off to make ends meet, pay our taxes, and support a family while being productive members of society in with these low-life bottom feeding parasites. They represent a very small minority of people in the US. Please tell me that whatever country you live in is an absolute perfect paradise with no crime, no poverty, no elites running things into the ground for their own gain. Otherwise, you have no right to bad mouth Americans.

[Lethn]

It's not perfect, but there's a reason why so many Europeans think your country is ridiculous.

[stevegreer]

It's not perfect, but there's a reason why so many Europeans think your country is ridiculous.

I think it's safe to say that most European countries have problems of their own to worry about. Pot calling the kettle black.

[Lethn]

It's not perfect, but there's a reason why so many Europeans think your country is ridiculous.

I think it's safe to say that most European countries have problems of their own to worry about. Pot calling the kettle black.

Yeah but at least we recognise that, that's the point, you guys just rage and blame homosexuals or say god told you to do it

[stevegreer]

It's not perfect, but there's a reason why so many Europeans think your country is ridiculous.

I think it's safe to say that most European countries have problems of their own to worry about. Pot calling the kettle black.

Yeah but at least we recognise that, that's the point, you guys just rage and blame homosexuals or say god told you to do it

Yet again you are generalizing. I see the humor in your post though, so I don't take offense to it since I am not one of those who you describe.

[Rampion]

I like to think that the issue is more of the fact that police think they can get away with shooting unarmed people for no reason which is what everybody should be concerned about, but then again, it seems as though I have totally different priorities from other people, like giving a shit about someone's skin colour and I am in a very small minority.

This sums it pretty well.

The most ridiculous part is where you always have some US folk that says that everybody carrying guns would solve all the problems.... Including this one (police shooting unarmed people).

They probably do not realize that the vast majority of police agents in Europe have never ever fired a gunshot in their life (except for training, obviously). Heck, most of them never had to take out their gun out of its holster to point it at someone

[arbitrage001]

Generational poverty. Granpa had nothing, Dad had nothing, kids have nothing, thier kids have nothing. It goes on and on. They do however manage to cling to a misplaced sense of pride, and an irrational fear/envy/hatered of anyone who has been fiscally responsable and has anything to show for it.
The reality of "Gangster Lifestyle" is that it is a totally hand-to-mouth existance. they may flash a few thousand dollars around at the club, but it is really easy to spend that kind of money at a club or via an ignorant lifestyle. They are perpetually going broke and therefore perpetually on the take, after your hard earned money, even if they have to kill you to get it. But a cop (earns ~ what ateacher makes, with no 2 months paid vacation every year, namely not that much) who is tasked with trying to do damage control around these entitled morons, that cop is guaranteed corrupt, evil, murderous and racist to boot!

I've got a teenager of my own at home, and while she is a good kid, and we have her thinking about money and her future, she is obliged to work and save and keep her grades up and she is going to college wether she likes it or not...she is still a teen ager. Teenage logic goes like this; teenager is doing something they KNOW they shouldnt be doing, teenager gets busted by an adult. Teenager screams blue murder, so unfair! Adult is way out of line, isnt respecting me! has no right! blah blah blah! Its always someone else's fault, NEVER is it "You are right, I was wrong, I am sorry, please let me make amends." NEVER. It is called scapegoating; deflecting blame. I cant believe everyone is so angry that this cop stopped this kid who blatantly stole from a store, then attacked him physically when he was doing his job and wound up getting shot! They say "kid" he was over 6 feet tall, athletic, and obviously with a bad "tough guy" attitude... I'd be pretty afraid too.

I'm not saying there arent problems, especially in USA, but that does not mean that it is a free pass for every bottom feeder and opportunist out there to rob steal and intimidate unchecked and unfettered. seriously. The system is far from perfect, but it is infinitely preferable to how things would be if the thugs were in charge. They cant even operate a laundry machine ffs

Keen observation. Entitlement attitude in the country has to change.

[Wilikon]

...when they have thousands of dollars of ink tatted all over their bodies and up their arms.

This is what people mean by the "entitled" culture. People think a paycheck is meant to blow on fun stuff while the government picks up the tab for your basic necessities like food, housing, healthcare or child care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpsQwl_19M4

[yldouright]

The anti-gun mentality is propaganda brainwashing perpetrated on the people, by their government, using the people's wishes for peace to implement the brainwashing, so that government can systematically rape and plunder the people.

This is the result of the anti-gun laws but not their original purpose. The people need to enact legislation to prohibit gun carrying by the police.

lethn
+1
There are ways to fix this world and the first step is to attack the root cause of oppression. I have some ideas on how this can be done in this thread.

[L3G1T]

I agree with you hundred percent dude.

[iCEBREAKER]

It's not perfect, but there's a reason why so many Europeans think your country is ridiculous.

I think it's safe to say that most European countries have problems of their own to worry about. Pot calling the kettle black.

It's funny when the snotty Euro-trash get mouthy, because the origin of America was a direct result of intolerable conditions in the Old World (which later led to two world wars, among other innumerable conflicts).

[galbros]

I agree with what Ramsey wrote early on in this thread.  The people who get attention are the most extreme and US policy decisions regarding immigration and narcotics make upward mobility problematic.  The disaster that is the US public school system offers little hope as well.

As to the OP's point about ink, sure, and a lot of them also have iPhones.  Yes I would prefer they invest in themselves but that's their choice.  I agree, it does not engender a lot of sympathy but I think the issue is a lot more complicated than it appears.

[Wilikon]

"He's Trying To Mike Brown Me!..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYNdrsxrgNo

What does the shooting death of an 18-year-old in Ferguson, Missouri, have to do with a shopper in a Pennsylvania Wal-Mart?

Quite a lot, if you ask the shopper.

When a man was detained on Black Friday and asked to prove that he had paid for his merchandise, he quickly got his friend to start recording and invoked the name of Michael Brown as he defended himself against the police.

The problem: as the video shows, the police officer talking to the shopper remains extraordinarily calm, even as the shopper yells at him and refuses to comply with his requests.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/29/absolutely-disgusting-keep-a-close-eye-on-the-cops-reaction-as-a-black-friday-shopper-claims-that-hes-being-harassed-like-mike-brown/

[jaysabi]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

[Wilikon]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

[Wilikon]

VIDEO>>> SNIPERS TAKE POSITION Atop #Ferguson Rooftops – Protesters VERY UPSET (Video)

Ferguson businesses – the ones that are still standing – brought in local militias this week to protect their property from violent protesters, looters and arsonists.
The militia volunteers were members of the Oathkeepers, an organization founded in 2009 to protect the Constitution and individual rights.

One woman was very upset that the members were guarding a Ferguson business. The woman actually says it’s wrong for the militia to protect other people’s property.

“It’s not a joke, I’m sorry. It’s not about intentionality(?) This is somebody else’s property, not even yours. And, you’re volunteering too. You’re not even being paid… It’s unacceptable. It’s diabolical. It’s sinful.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jWEEB61xQ8



Ferguson police forced the Oathkeepers off of the rooftops on Saturday after complaints by protesters.
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported:

They are volunteers affiliated with a 35,000-member national organization called Oath Keepers. Yale Law School graduate and libertarian Stewart Rhodes said by telephone from Montana that he founded the group in 2009 to protect constitutional rights, including those of protesters confronted by what he described as overly militarized police.

Police questioned group members early in the week and allowed them to stay. But Saturday, after media inquiries, St. Louis County police officers ordered the Oath Keepers to leave the rooftops.

Threatened with arrest for operating without a license, the volunteers argued but eventually left their positions early Saturday, Rhodes said.

“We are going to go back as protesters,” Rhodes said Saturday afternoon.

Rhodes, who said he is Mexican-American, stressed that Oath Keepers is not anti-government. He said the volunteers handling rooftop security in Ferguson were current or former government employees and first responders, many who have intense military, police and EMS training.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/video-snipers-take-position-atop-ferguson-rooftops-protesters-very-upset-video/

[jaysabi]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

Haha!    No, I'm just not high on blogspam (on either side) that takes a story and repackages it into inflammatory material to feed a particular base's rigid mindset. The Blaze is certainly one of those. The left has their share of them too. They're just obnoxious articles that add very little, if any, value to what are important conversations.

[RodeoX]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

Haha!    No, I'm just not high on blogspam (on either side) that takes a story and repackages it into inflammatory material to feed a particular base's rigid mindset. The Blaze is certainly one of those. The left has their share of them too. They're just obnoxious articles that add very little, if any, value to what are important conversations.

There was a time when the news was about informing people, now its just about marketing and clicking on ads. The news outlets will print anything to get you to look.

[jaysabi]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

Haha!    No, I'm just not high on blogspam (on either side) that takes a story and repackages it into inflammatory material to feed a particular base's rigid mindset. The Blaze is certainly one of those. The left has their share of them too. They're just obnoxious articles that add very little, if any, value to what are important conversations.

There was a time when the news was about informing people, now its just about marketing and clicking on ads. The news outlets will print anything to get you to look.

I agree. Media is a business, and the purpose of owning a business is to make money. Any cable media is no longer in the business of reporting news, but spinning news to press their viewers' preconceived rage points. Then there is another step to the extreme in websites like The Blaze that really whore themselves out to get you to click that link. You can tell how much integrity one of these 'news' sites has by how often they use subjective adjectives in their headlines. For example, "Absolutely Disgusting" might be something that appears in a headline about the behavior of a black shopper to get conservative minded folks to click through and see for themselves just how disgusting some people are.  (See the previous Blaze link if you want to see for yourself!)

The problem is these headlines work. They make a ton of money. That's why there's so many of them.

[Wilikon]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

Haha!    No, I'm just not high on blogspam (on either side) that takes a story and repackages it into inflammatory material to feed a particular base's rigid mindset. The Blaze is certainly one of those. The left has their share of them too. They're just obnoxious articles that add very little, if any, value to what are important conversations.

There was a time when the news was about informing people, now its just about marketing and clicking on ads. The news outlets will print anything to get you to look.

I agree. Media is a business, and the purpose of owning a business is to make money. Any cable media is no longer in the business of reporting news, but spinning news to press their viewers' preconceived rage points. Then there is another step to the extreme in websites like The Blaze that really whore themselves out to get you to click that link. You can tell how much integrity one of these 'news' sites has by how often they use subjective adjectives in their headlines. For example, "Absolutely Disgusting" might be something that appears in a headline about the behavior of a black shopper to get conservative minded folks to click through and see for themselves just how disgusting some people are.  (See the previous Blaze link if you want to see for yourself!)

The problem is these headlines work. They make a ton of money. That's why there's so many of them.

And that is why we have a brain and sort out or believe what we want and reject what we do not want. I would copy paste a few lines and and always give credit by adding a link to the original source where I saw that information. In this case you could bypass the blaze and just watch the video while getting some context. Then not trusting the blaze you could google/duck duck go/ bling that youtube video and read the behind the scene of that video. Maybe there was an personal history between the cop and the dude on the video being "mike browned", before.

Obviously most people do not care and are too lazy to do too much research and prefer to trust the main stream media, the one that makes the most money with the most advertising. That is their choice and is perfectly acceptable too

[TheButterZone]

Peaceful protesters very upset that they can't be martyred by police when the "militia" has the PP's back? /facepalm

[jaysabi]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

Haha!    No, I'm just not high on blogspam (on either side) that takes a story and repackages it into inflammatory material to feed a particular base's rigid mindset. The Blaze is certainly one of those. The left has their share of them too. They're just obnoxious articles that add very little, if any, value to what are important conversations.

There was a time when the news was about informing people, now its just about marketing and clicking on ads. The news outlets will print anything to get you to look.

I agree. Media is a business, and the purpose of owning a business is to make money. Any cable media is no longer in the business of reporting news, but spinning news to press their viewers' preconceived rage points. Then there is another step to the extreme in websites like The Blaze that really whore themselves out to get you to click that link. You can tell how much integrity one of these 'news' sites has by how often they use subjective adjectives in their headlines. For example, "Absolutely Disgusting" might be something that appears in a headline about the behavior of a black shopper to get conservative minded folks to click through and see for themselves just how disgusting some people are.  (See the previous Blaze link if you want to see for yourself!)

The problem is these headlines work. They make a ton of money. That's why there's so many of them.

And that is why we have a brain and sort out or believe what we want and reject what we do not want. I would copy paste a few lines and and always give credit by adding a link to the original source where I saw that information. In this case you could bypass the blaze and just watch the video while getting some context. Then not trusting the blaze you could google/duck duck go/ bling that youtube video and read the behind the scene of that video. Maybe there was an personal history between the cop and the dude on the video being "mike browned", before.

Obviously most people do not care and are too lazy to do too much research and prefer to trust the main stream media, the one that makes the most money with the most advertising. That is their choice and is perfectly acceptable too

If people were interested in unbiased information, something like The Blaze wouldn't exist. People don't want that though. They want pieces that make them feel superior to groups they view as inferior, so they can post them wherever and rant about how terrible some groups are for doing or thinking [insert racial or political stereotype here]. The Blaze is worst than most because it foments division and hatred by playing on racial undertones, otherwise there'd by no reason to point out the race of people they're writing about in the headlines. 'Check out the disgusting way this black shopper acted around this cop' or whatever the headline was. The point isn't that some guy was disrespectful to a cop, it's that he's black and he's acting in a way you should hate. The headline tells you that much.

My question is, if you know a site is a disgraceful click monger and their presentation of information is so biased and serves no legitimate news function, why do you post them? Even if, as you say, people have brains and can decide for themselves if a source is worthy? If you're posting it and saying 'Decide for yourself if this is relevant information,' then it just looks like you're posting things you agree approve of. And in the case of this specific Blaze story, the story trying to appeal to people on the basis of 'look at this ridiculous black guy' is what's disgusting.

[Wilikon]

http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2014/12/chicago-based-reporter-who-published-darren-wilsons-address-wanted-a-list-police-protection.html


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Note to julie: make sure you have friends among the people whose colleague you've made a target of, next time...

[brian_23452]

...when they have thousands of dollars of ink tatted all over their bodies and up their arms.

This is what people mean by the "entitled" culture. People think a paycheck is meant to blow on fun stuff while the government picks up the tab for your basic necessities like food, housing, healthcare or child care.

Really?  I thought they were "bitching" about being brutalized and murdered by armed white racist thugs. 

[brian_23452]

...when they have thousands of dollars of ink tatted all over their bodies and up their arms.

This is what people mean by the "entitled" culture. People think a paycheck is meant to blow on fun stuff while the government picks up the tab for your basic necessities like food, housing, healthcare or child care.

It always amuses me when poor white trash bitches about a black guy getting a 200 dollar welfare check to help make ends meet.  Meanwhile, the tax payers of St. Louis have cut a 528 MILLION dollar welfare check to the owner of the Rams, a man worth 6 BILLION dollars, and not even bat an eye.  Talk about needing tax payers to pay for your toys!

[Wilikon]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

Haha!    No, I'm just not high on blogspam (on either side) that takes a story and repackages it into inflammatory material to feed a particular base's rigid mindset. The Blaze is certainly one of those. The left has their share of them too. They're just obnoxious articles that add very little, if any, value to what are important conversations.

There was a time when the news was about informing people, now its just about marketing and clicking on ads. The news outlets will print anything to get you to look.

I agree. Media is a business, and the purpose of owning a business is to make money. Any cable media is no longer in the business of reporting news, but spinning news to press their viewers' preconceived rage points. Then there is another step to the extreme in websites like The Blaze that really whore themselves out to get you to click that link. You can tell how much integrity one of these 'news' sites has by how often they use subjective adjectives in their headlines. For example, "Absolutely Disgusting" might be something that appears in a headline about the behavior of a black shopper to get conservative minded folks to click through and see for themselves just how disgusting some people are.  (See the previous Blaze link if you want to see for yourself!)

The problem is these headlines work. They make a ton of money. That's why there's so many of them.

And that is why we have a brain and sort out or believe what we want and reject what we do not want. I would copy paste a few lines and and always give credit by adding a link to the original source where I saw that information. In this case you could bypass the blaze and just watch the video while getting some context. Then not trusting the blaze you could google/duck duck go/ bling that youtube video and read the behind the scene of that video. Maybe there was an personal history between the cop and the dude on the video being "mike browned", before.

Obviously most people do not care and are too lazy to do too much research and prefer to trust the main stream media, the one that makes the most money with the most advertising. That is their choice and is perfectly acceptable too

If people were interested in unbiased information, something like The Blaze wouldn't exist. People don't want that though. They want pieces that make them feel superior to groups they view as inferior, so they can post them wherever and rant about how terrible some groups are for doing or thinking [insert racial or political stereotype here]. The Blaze is worst than most because it foments division and hatred by playing on racial undertones, otherwise there'd by no reason to point out the race of people they're writing about in the headlines. 'Check out the disgusting way this black shopper acted around this cop' or whatever the headline was. The point isn't that some guy was disrespectful to a cop, it's that he's black and he's acting in a way you should hate. The headline tells you that much.

My question is, if you know a site is a disgraceful click monger and their presentation of information is so biased and serves no legitimate news function, why do you post them? Even if, as you say, people have brains and can decide for themselves if a source is worthy? If you're posting it and saying 'Decide for yourself if this is relevant information,' then it just looks like you're posting things you agree approve of. And in the case of this specific Blaze story, the story trying to appeal to people on the basis of 'look at this ridiculous black guy' is what's disgusting.

If people were interested in unbiased information, something like CNN wouldn't exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZFZmQCA1KE

[Wilikon]

Sheriff Clarke ~ Irresponsible Groups Descended on Ferguson MO Like Vultures on a Roadside Carcass

http://youtu.be/HMQCFqgAGyM

[jaysabi]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

Haha!    No, I'm just not high on blogspam (on either side) that takes a story and repackages it into inflammatory material to feed a particular base's rigid mindset. The Blaze is certainly one of those. The left has their share of them too. They're just obnoxious articles that add very little, if any, value to what are important conversations.

There was a time when the news was about informing people, now its just about marketing and clicking on ads. The news outlets will print anything to get you to look.

I agree. Media is a business, and the purpose of owning a business is to make money. Any cable media is no longer in the business of reporting news, but spinning news to press their viewers' preconceived rage points. Then there is another step to the extreme in websites like The Blaze that really whore themselves out to get you to click that link. You can tell how much integrity one of these 'news' sites has by how often they use subjective adjectives in their headlines. For example, "Absolutely Disgusting" might be something that appears in a headline about the behavior of a black shopper to get conservative minded folks to click through and see for themselves just how disgusting some people are.  (See the previous Blaze link if you want to see for yourself!)

The problem is these headlines work. They make a ton of money. That's why there's so many of them.

And that is why we have a brain and sort out or believe what we want and reject what we do not want. I would copy paste a few lines and and always give credit by adding a link to the original source where I saw that information. In this case you could bypass the blaze and just watch the video while getting some context. Then not trusting the blaze you could google/duck duck go/ bling that youtube video and read the behind the scene of that video. Maybe there was an personal history between the cop and the dude on the video being "mike browned", before.

Obviously most people do not care and are too lazy to do too much research and prefer to trust the main stream media, the one that makes the most money with the most advertising. That is their choice and is perfectly acceptable too

If people were interested in unbiased information, something like The Blaze wouldn't exist. People don't want that though. They want pieces that make them feel superior to groups they view as inferior, so they can post them wherever and rant about how terrible some groups are for doing or thinking [insert racial or political stereotype here]. The Blaze is worst than most because it foments division and hatred by playing on racial undertones, otherwise there'd by no reason to point out the race of people they're writing about in the headlines. 'Check out the disgusting way this black shopper acted around this cop' or whatever the headline was. The point isn't that some guy was disrespectful to a cop, it's that he's black and he's acting in a way you should hate. The headline tells you that much.

My question is, if you know a site is a disgraceful click monger and their presentation of information is so biased and serves no legitimate news function, why do you post them? Even if, as you say, people have brains and can decide for themselves if a source is worthy? If you're posting it and saying 'Decide for yourself if this is relevant information,' then it just looks like you're posting things you agree approve of. And in the case of this specific Blaze story, the story trying to appeal to people on the basis of 'look at this ridiculous black guy' is what's disgusting.

If people were interested in unbiased information, something like CNN wouldn't exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZFZmQCA1KE

Nor Fox News, yada yada. 

Yawn.

[TheButterZone]

http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2014/12/chicago-based-reporter-who-published-darren-wilsons-address-wanted-a-list-police-protection.html

Ironic, but in the grand scheme of things, Chicago.gov administers a civil rights-free zone, so she wouldn't even be allowed to defend herself without an order from SCOTUS.

[picolo]

Not all protestors robbed stores but they have all been lied on TV when they heard it's a racist crime when the policeman was clearly in self defense.

The black community is suffering from its leaders telling them they are victims. You can't improve if you think you are a victim.

[yldouright]

Is it possible one might not be able to improve because one really is being victimized?

[saddampbuh]

Is it possible one might not be able to improve because one really is being victimized?

not really, most minority groups in america have been victimised at one point or another and still managed to get ahead, is it possible blacks will ever stop blaming their laziness and criminality on other people being mean to them?

[yldouright]

not really, most minority groups in america have been victimised at one point or another and still managed to get ahead, is it possible blacks will ever stop blaming their laziness and criminality on other people being mean to them?

You're focussing on the wrong thing. Minorities are not the only victimized people and events are happening that will eventually touch even you in just as serious a way if you haven't experienced it already. Fergusen is just the beginning of the New World Order and you shouldn't ignore it just because you happen to dislike the people it is happening to because the final outcome would have our founding fathers rolling in their graves.

[picolo]

The Black communities are receiving a lot of money from the tax payer and suffer because of it. They would benefit more of a free state and free markets because they would be willing to work harder and cheaper than richer people.

[saddampbuh]

You're focussing on the wrong thing. Minorities are not the only victimized people and events are happening that will eventually touch even you in just as serious a way if you haven't experienced it already. Fergusen is just the beginning of the New World Order and you shouldn't ignore it just because you happen to dislike the people it is happening to because the final outcome would have our founding fathers rolling in their graves.

what has blacks stealing and breaking things because they're upset about the cops shooting a cigar thief got to do with a new world order

[yldouright]

what has blacks stealing and breaking things because they're upset about the cops shooting a cigar thief got to do with a new world order

You don't see a correlation when the citizenry have their constitutional rights blatantly violated and martial law is enacted without due cause? You have no problem with a youth getting shot for a cigar but you can sit idly and watch your money get 'bailed in' by legislation bought by banksters!? Dude, you need a serious value system check. I'm hoping you're reading and understanding better, picolo. You need to focus your anger on the cause and not the symptom.

[commandrix]

...when they have thousands of dollars of ink tatted all over their bodies and up their arms.

This is what people mean by the "entitled" culture. People think a paycheck is meant to blow on fun stuff while the government picks up the tab for your basic necessities like food, housing, healthcare or child care.

What's even worse to me is that they seem intent on destroying the little they do have when things don't go their way. So some thug kid got himself killed by a cop. I wanted to grab those guys by the collar and tell them that, if they don't like it, they should think of ways they can get out of the ghetto and none of those ways involve being a thug who riots at the drop of a hat.

[saddampbuh]

You don't see a correlation when the citizenry have their constitutional rights blatantly violated and martial law is enacted without due cause? You have no problem with a youth getting shot for a cigar but you can sit idly and watch your money get 'bailed in' by legislation bought by banksters!? Dude, you need a serious value system check. I'm hoping you're reading and understanding better, picolo. You need to focus your anger on the cause and not the symptom.

the black went for the cop's gun, i have no problem with him getting shot. blacks are disproportionately targeted by police because of the amount of crimes they commit and the problems they cause the rest of society.

[yldouright]

saddampbuh
It is scarcity that causes desperation and all other manner of ills. I submit this scarcity is a manufactured one. When every avenue that you take to improve your well being only results in others being enriched by your efforts and this is the only mode over generations, the world has a problem. You have to ask yourself if it okay for one person to accumulate enough wealth to purchase the labor of 140,000,000 men (or women) for a year and then ask yourself if it is okay for a small group of people with this wealth to meet outside the jurisdiction of your sovereign government to plot the means to subject all to their will. You have accepted the reported police account as completely truthful. It is historically a dangerous thing to be complacent about the trust we place in those that rule us. You are probably a victim of too many hours in front of network television and you need to correct this. Read what you can about Bilderberg and try to understand better the root causes of the scarcity first, then think about what it would be like to grow up without means, the benefit of parental guidance and societal scorn of your impoverished situation. Once you've done that, tell me if you still believe what has happened in Ferguson is acceptable. Even the simple act of getting dressed in the morning is a complicated exercise for too many people and that complicates everything else. If you don't believe me, try the following experiment:
Live just one month without the benefit of a clothes dryer (I won't ask you to give up the the washing machine 'cuz it might cause a divorce) and tell us what you learned. I have other experiments that concern diet that would be even more telling but we can start with the less challenging dearthful situation.

[Rishblitz]

all these groups have been lied to by their leaders.

[picolo]

all these groups have been lied to by their leaders.

Yes and by the governement that tell them they are victims and they need the governement when they need more freedom and less governement actions.

[saddampbuh]

saddampbuh
It is scarcity that causes desperation and all other manner of ills. I submit this scarcity is a manufactured one. When every avenue that you take to improve your well being only results in others being enriched by your efforts and this is the only mode over generations, the world has a problem. You have to ask yourself if it okay for one person to accumulate enough wealth to purchase the labor of 140,000,000 men (or women) for a year and then ask yourself if it is okay for a small group of people with this wealth to meet outside the jurisdiction of your sovereign government to plot the means to subject all to their will. You have accepted the reported police account as completely truthful. It is historically a dangerous thing to be complacent about the trust we place in those that rule us. You are probably a victim of too many hours in front of network television and you need to correct this. Read what you can about Bilderberg and try to understand better the root causes of the scarcity first, then think about what it would be like to grow up without means, the benefit of parental guidance and societal scorn of your impoverished situation. Once you've done that, tell me if you still believe what has happened in Ferguson is acceptable. Even the simple act of getting dressed in the morning is a complicated exercise for too many people and that complicates everything else. If you don't believe me, try the following experiment:
Live just one month without the benefit of a clothes dryer (I won't ask you to give up the the washing machine 'cuz it might cause a divorce) and tell us what you learned. I have other experiments that concern diet that would be even more telling but we can start with the less challenging dearthful situation.

never owned a clothes dryer in my life, pick something else

i accept the official version of events because the thug's dna was found on the cop's gun. don't tell me wilson should have sat there and taken a beating because he should feel sorry for how the capitalist crisis of overproduction and white privilege and the ongoing legacy of slavery made the poor innocent black steal cigars to fill with marijuana and get violent for being told to not walk in the road

poverty can indeed lead to crime but there are plenty of communities suffering deprevation which don't experience crime rates at anything like black areas. the sooner we accept there is something defective and dysfunctional about blacks that makes them act in this way and stop pretending its all about socioeconomic conditons the better things will get for the rest of us

[yldouright]

saddampbuh
I don't know the world stats on this but here in the US, being a police officer has the lowest probabiity of injury of all blue collar jobs. Thirty years ago, they were comfortably in the middle of the pack and sixty years ago they were in the top five. Could this be because they are paying less attention to our civil liberties when they perform their function? I don't like the idea of any law officer carrying a weapon when the civilians don't have one and yes, when the injuries of the unarmed apprehended are statistically astronomically higher and more severe than the armed officials making the arrests, it is a strong indication that there is less police 'work' than vicimization.

[picolo]

saddampbuh
I don't know the world stats on this but here in the US, being a police officer has the lowest probabiity of injury of all blue collar jobs. Thirty years ago, they were comfortably in the middle of the pack and sixty years ago they were in the top five. Could this be because they are paying less attention to our civil liberties when they perform their function? I don't like the idea of any law officer carrying a weapon when the civilians don't have one and yes, when the injuries of the unarmed apprehended are statistically astronomically higher and more severe than the armed officials making the arrests, it is a strong indication that there is less police 'work' than vicimization.

I would be surprised if a police officer that patrols in tough neighbourhoods has the lowest probability of injury out of all blue collar jobs!

Restricting gun access for citizens means you still have a lot of guns, only it's the governement that has all the guns and can use it against the citizens.

Bad people will get the guns somehow. Look in France.

[saddampbuh]

saddampbuh
I don't know the world stats on this but here in the US, being a police officer has the lowest probabiity of injury of all blue collar jobs. Thirty years ago, they were comfortably in the middle of the pack and sixty years ago they were in the top five. Could this be because they are paying less attention to our civil liberties when they perform their function? I don't like the idea of any law officer carrying a weapon when the civilians don't have one and yes, when the injuries of the unarmed apprehended are statistically astronomically higher and more severe than the armed officials making the arrests, it is a strong indication that there is less police 'work' than vicimization.

or it might have something to do with a falling crime rate

[Wilikon]

George Soros funds Ferguson protests, hopes to spur civil action


Liberal billionaire gave at least $33 million in one year to groups that emboldened activists

There’s a solitary man at the financial center of the Ferguson protest movement. No, it’s not victim Michael Brown or Officer Darren Wilson. It’s not even the Rev. Al Sharpton, despite his ubiquitous campaign on TV and the streets.

Rather, it’s liberal billionaire George Soros, who has built a business empire that dominates across the ocean in Europe while forging a political machine powered by nonprofit foundations that impacts American politics and policy, not unlike what he did with MoveOn.org.

Mr. Soros spurred the Ferguson protest movement through years of funding and mobilizing groups across the U.S., according to interviews with key players and financial records reviewed by The Washington Times.

In all, Mr. Soros gave at least $33 million in one year to support already-established groups that emboldened the grass-roots, on-the-ground activists in Ferguson, according to the most recent tax filings of his nonprofit Open Society Foundations.

The financial tether from Mr. Soros to the activist groups gave rise to a combustible protest movement that transformed a one-day criminal event in Missouri into a 24-hour-a-day national cause celebre.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/?page=1

[jaysabi]

George Soros funds Ferguson protests, hopes to spur civil action


Liberal billionaire gave at least $33 million in one year to groups that emboldened activists

Only $33 million? Must not be that important.

[Wilikon]

George Soros funds Ferguson protests, hopes to spur civil action


Liberal billionaire gave at least $33 million in one year to groups that emboldened activists

Only $33 million? Must not be that important.

What do I know. I am not a rich socialist. Bitcoin is all I want to believe in.

If you know all the names of the dead in #ferguson and ny. If you know the names of the cops involved. If you know people who got stuck in traffic for being whites with an outstanding amount of privilege they stole from every non whites. If you see a few seconds of #blacklivesmatter anywhere in your day to day life, 24/7.

Then $33M was a pretty ROI, won't you say? 

[jaysabi]

George Soros funds Ferguson protests, hopes to spur civil action


Liberal billionaire gave at least $33 million in one year to groups that emboldened activists

Only $33 million? Must not be that important.

What do I know. I am not a rich socialist. Bitcoin is all I want to believe in.

If you know all the names of the dead in #ferguson and ny. If you know the names of the cops involved. If you know people who got stuck in traffic for being whites with an outstanding amount of privilege they stole from every non whites. If you see a few seconds of #blacklivesmatter anywhere in your day to day life, 24/7.

Then $33M was a pretty ROI, won't you say?  

Assuming a movement can't happen because of some rich benefactor's involvement is simplistic. Your own source cites the fact that the money chased the movement, not the other way around as you're presenting it.

[Wilikon]

Aborting black America



The ‘black lives matter’ slogan excludes the unborn





[...]
Today, on the somber anniversary of the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision, it’s time for black leaders to face up to the real danger threatening black lives in America. It isn’t the police. According to an anti-police brutality organization, the Malcolm X Grassroots Movement, 313 blacks were killed by “police, security guards and vigilantes” in 2013. It isn’t even black criminals, who, as Rudy Giuliani famously pointed out on “Meet the Press,” are responsible for 93 percent of violent deaths among blacks. Sources estimate that between 6,000 and 8,000 blacks are murdered each year.

No, the greatest danger to blacks is found precisely where we ought to be safest: in our mothers’ wombs. In 2010, the most recent year for which statistics are available, 138,539 black babies were aborted.

Thankfully, abortion is on the decline in America, down 3 percent between 2007 and 2010, according to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). Strikingly, the number of surgical abortion clinics has plummeted, from 2,176 in 1991 to 551 today. Nevertheless, the CDC report that in 2010, a staggering 765,651 abortions were performed in the United States. Black women continue to have the highest abortion rate of any ethnic group, with a gruesome 483 abortions for every 1,000 live births.

The bottom line? I’ll say it again: 138,539 black babies, nearly one baby in three, were killed in the womb in 2010. According to the CDC, between 2007 and 2010, innocent black babies were victimized in nearly 36 percent of the abortion deaths in the United States, though blacks represent only 12.8 percent of the population. Some say the abortion capital of America is New York City. According to LifeSiteNews, the city’s Department of Health reported that in 2012, more black babies were aborted (31,328) than born (24,758). That’s 55.9 percent of black babies killed before birth. Blacks represented 42.4 percent of all abortions.

Legalized abortion is working out exactly as Margaret Sanger intended. Sanger, the founder of the nation’s largest abortion provider, Planned Parenthood, was part of the eugenics movement back in the 1930s. Her goal was to use abortion to cull what she considered inferior races from the human gene pool. According to Sanger, “Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated.” She opened her first abortion clinics in inner cities, and it’s no accident that even today, “79 percent of Planned Parenthood’s abortion facilities are located in black or minority neighborhoods.”


[...]
Some black leaders are still acting as Judas goats today. LifeSiteNews cites black pro-life activist Ryan Bomberger: “Back in 2005, the NAACP praised the high black abortion rate as compared to the percentage of the population at a NARAL fundraising gala. When more black babies are aborted than are born alive in NYC and the NAACP responds by supporting Gov. [Andrew] Cuomo’s radical abortion expansion via the misnamed ‘Women’s Equality Act,’ one can understand how the targeting of minorities continues unabated.”

Abortion is the greatest threat to black lives in America today. People who claim to represent the black community while also abetting the black holocaust — abortion — are hypocrites. Any “civil rights leader” who genuinely believes that “black lives matter” should be working to see that every black baby is accorded the very first civil right — the right to life.



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/21/j-kenneth-blackwell-black-abortions-a-crisis-in-am/

[jaysabi]

Aborting black America



The ‘black lives matter’ slogan excludes the unborn





[...]
Today, on the somber anniversary of the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision, it’s time for black leaders to face up to the real danger threatening black lives in America. It isn’t the police. According to an anti-police brutality organization, the Malcolm X Grassroots Movement, 313 blacks were killed by “police, security guards and vigilantes” in 2013. It isn’t even black criminals, who, as Rudy Giuliani famously pointed out on “Meet the Press,” are responsible for 93 percent of violent deaths among blacks. Sources estimate that between 6,000 and 8,000 blacks are murdered each year.

No, the greatest danger to blacks is found precisely where we ought to be safest: in our mothers’ wombs. In 2010, the most recent year for which statistics are available, 138,539 black babies were aborted.

Thankfully, abortion is on the decline in America, down 3 percent between 2007 and 2010, according to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). Strikingly, the number of surgical abortion clinics has plummeted, from 2,176 in 1991 to 551 today. Nevertheless, the CDC report that in 2010, a staggering 765,651 abortions were performed in the United States. Black women continue to have the highest abortion rate of any ethnic group, with a gruesome 483 abortions for every 1,000 live births.

The bottom line? I’ll say it again: 138,539 black babies, nearly one baby in three, were killed in the womb in 2010. According to the CDC, between 2007 and 2010, innocent black babies were victimized in nearly 36 percent of the abortion deaths in the United States, though blacks represent only 12.8 percent of the population. Some say the abortion capital of America is New York City. According to LifeSiteNews, the city’s Department of Health reported that in 2012, more black babies were aborted (31,328) than born (24,758). That’s 55.9 percent of black babies killed before birth. Blacks represented 42.4 percent of all abortions.

Legalized abortion is working out exactly as Margaret Sanger intended. Sanger, the founder of the nation’s largest abortion provider, Planned Parenthood, was part of the eugenics movement back in the 1930s. Her goal was to use abortion to cull what she considered inferior races from the human gene pool. According to Sanger, “Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated.” She opened her first abortion clinics in inner cities, and it’s no accident that even today, “79 percent of Planned Parenthood’s abortion facilities are located in black or minority neighborhoods.”


[...]
Some black leaders are still acting as Judas goats today. LifeSiteNews cites black pro-life activist Ryan Bomberger: “Back in 2005, the NAACP praised the high black abortion rate as compared to the percentage of the population at a NARAL fundraising gala. When more black babies are aborted than are born alive in NYC and the NAACP responds by supporting Gov. [Andrew] Cuomo’s radical abortion expansion via the misnamed ‘Women’s Equality Act,’ one can understand how the targeting of minorities continues unabated.”

Abortion is the greatest threat to black lives in America today. People who claim to represent the black community while also abetting the black holocaust — abortion — are hypocrites. Any “civil rights leader” who genuinely believes that “black lives matter” should be working to see that every black baby is accorded the very first civil right — the right to life.



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/21/j-kenneth-blackwell-black-abortions-a-crisis-in-am/

Yeah, yeah, abortion is a conspiracy to get all your precious black babies! A completely voluntary holocaust! MWA HA HA! 

[jaysabi]

Legalized abortion is working out exactly as Margaret Sanger intended. Sanger, the founder of the nation’s largest abortion provider, Planned Parenthood, was part of the eugenics movement back in the 1930s. Her goal was to use abortion to cull what she considered inferior races from the human gene pool. According to Sanger, “Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated.” She opened her first

Btw, Margaret Sanger was opposed to abortion.

Sanger's family planning advocacy always focused on contraception, rather than abortion. It was not until the mid-1960s, after Sanger's death, that the reproductive rights movement expanded its scope to include abortion rights as well as contraception. Sanger was opposed to abortions, both because they were dangerous for the mother in the early 20th century and because she believed that life should not be terminated after conception. In her book Woman and the New Race, she wrote: "while there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization."

Historian Rodger Streitmatter concluded that Sanger's opposition to abortion stemmed from concerns for the dangers to the mother, rather than moral concerns. However, in her 1938 autobiography, Sanger noted that her opposition to abortion was based on the taking of life: "[In 1916] we explained what contraception was; that abortion was the wrong way no matter how early it was performed it was taking life; that contraception was the better way, the safer way—it took a little time, a little trouble, but was well worth while in the long run, because life had not yet begun." And in her book Family Limitation, Sanger wrote that "no one can doubt that there are times when an abortion is justifiable but they will become unnecessary when care is taken to prevent conception. This is the only cure for abortions."

The reality doesn't fit the very reconstructed history you're peddling.

[Wilikon]

Margaret Sanger: The Greatest Sin is Children
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Or7OgiQ5JU


Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood's Racist Founder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEja-1emRic

http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm

"Especially non white children"



 

[Rishblitz]

Margaret Sanger: The Greatest Sin is Children
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Or7OgiQ5JU


Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood's Racist Founder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEja-1emRic

http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm

"Especially non white children"



 

that's some fucked up shit. what's so funny though is that American liberals support planned parent hood but clearly don't understand the history of its founder.

[jaysabi]

Gee, a bible wacko who took a bunch of quotes out of context and put them on her website to promote her radical conservative agenda. It's no wonder you love it so much! Sanger has said some reprehensible things related to race, but trying to pretend PP's intention under her direction was abortion is stretching the truth too far, and the facts don't back you up. Actually read Sanger's works, her concern above all else is access to birth control which is illegal when she gets politically involved. PP didn't get involved in abortion until after she died, and under her direction, the aim was always prophylactics and their legalization and education for the public, and especially turning social attitudes towards their acceptance, despite how hard conservatives fought on the issue (and still continue to fight on the issue). Sanger's on the record extensively as being against abortion and the taking of infant life, which is why her words in the quote in question are obviously ironic, and written for shock value, and especially to make her true intention- to make birth control available for women- more palatable by comparison. But nice try!

[Rishblitz]

Gee, a bible wacko who took a bunch of quotes out of context and put them on her website to promote her radical conservative agenda. It's no wonder you love it so much! Sanger has said some reprehensible things related to race, but trying to pretend PP's intention under her direction was abortion is stretching the truth too far, and the facts don't back you up. Actually read Sanger's works, her concern above all else is access to birth control which is illegal when she gets politically involved. PP didn't get involved in abortion until after she died, and under her direction, the aim was always prophylactics and their legalization and education for the public, and especially turning social attitudes towards their acceptance, despite how hard conservatives fought on the issue (and still continue to fight on the issue). Sanger's on the record extensively as being against abortion and the taking of infant life, which is why her words in the quote in question are obviously ironic, and written for shock value, and especially to make her true intention- to make birth control available for women- more palatable by comparison. But nice try!

I wasn't talking about being against abortion I was saying her comments on minorities and American liberals acceptance of PP.

[jaysabi]

Gee, a bible wacko who took a bunch of quotes out of context and put them on her website to promote her radical conservative agenda. It's no wonder you love it so much! Sanger has said some reprehensible things related to race, but trying to pretend PP's intention under her direction was abortion is stretching the truth too far, and the facts don't back you up. Actually read Sanger's works, her concern above all else is access to birth control which is illegal when she gets politically involved. PP didn't get involved in abortion until after she died, and under her direction, the aim was always prophylactics and their legalization and education for the public, and especially turning social attitudes towards their acceptance, despite how hard conservatives fought on the issue (and still continue to fight on the issue). Sanger's on the record extensively as being against abortion and the taking of infant life, which is why her words in the quote in question are obviously ironic, and written for shock value, and especially to make her true intention- to make birth control available for women- more palatable by comparison. But nice try!

I wasn't talking about being against abortion I was saying her comments on minorities and American liberals acceptance of PP.

Sorry, I was more responding to Wilikon, but I only quote him when the quote won't be reposting his craziest propaganda. Specifically, I was responding to the disreputable opinion he bolded so carefully in a quote he posted about Sanger and abortion of black babies, and how it's working out exactly as she intended! (Sarcastic emphasis mine.)

[Rishblitz]

Gee, a bible wacko who took a bunch of quotes out of context and put them on her website to promote her radical conservative agenda. It's no wonder you love it so much! Sanger has said some reprehensible things related to race, but trying to pretend PP's intention under her direction was abortion is stretching the truth too far, and the facts don't back you up. Actually read Sanger's works, her concern above all else is access to birth control which is illegal when she gets politically involved. PP didn't get involved in abortion until after she died, and under her direction, the aim was always prophylactics and their legalization and education for the public, and especially turning social attitudes towards their acceptance, despite how hard conservatives fought on the issue (and still continue to fight on the issue). Sanger's on the record extensively as being against abortion and the taking of infant life, which is why her words in the quote in question are obviously ironic, and written for shock value, and especially to make her true intention- to make birth control available for women- more palatable by comparison. But nice try!

I wasn't talking about being against abortion I was saying her comments on minorities and American liberals acceptance of PP.

Sorry, I was more responding to Wilikon, but I only quote him when the quote won't be reposting his craziest propaganda. Specifically, I was responding to the disreputable opinion he bolded so carefully in a quote he posted about Sanger and abortion of black babies, and how it's working out exactly as she intended! (Sarcastic emphasis mine.)

Yeah I will agree on the race comments but the conspiracy about black babies is ridiculous.

[Wilikon]

Margaret Sanger: The Greatest Sin is Children
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Or7OgiQ5JU


Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood's Racist Founder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEja-1emRic

http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm

"Especially non white children"



 

that's some fucked up shit. what's so funny though is that American liberals support planned parent hood but clearly don't understand the history of its founder.

When I found out about it I could not believe this to be true. And yet, she is on video, saying it as you could see.
People don't have to believe me. When you have numbers and statistics regarding the number of abortions and who is doing it the most, it is not a myth. Very strange reaction to laugh at numbers I have to say... 

I have to disagree with liberals not knowing the life and the writings of sanger. You are witnessing how propaganda works. You saw it with someone telling me I was rewriting history. Any liberal who is more than 40 knows how evil that woman was.


Hard to say sanger is rewritting history when she is on video, vomiting her hellish bile...

[Wilikon]

Gee, a bible wacko who took a bunch of quotes out of context and put them on her website to promote her radical conservative agenda. It's no wonder you love it so much! Sanger has said some reprehensible things related to race, but trying to pretend PP's intention under her direction was abortion is stretching the truth too far, and the facts don't back you up. Actually read Sanger's works, her concern above all else is access to birth control which is illegal when she gets politically involved. PP didn't get involved in abortion until after she died, and under her direction, the aim was always prophylactics and their legalization and education for the public, and especially turning social attitudes towards their acceptance, despite how hard conservatives fought on the issue (and still continue to fight on the issue). Sanger's on the record extensively as being against abortion and the taking of infant life, which is why her words in the quote in question are obviously ironic, and written for shock value, and especially to make her true intention- to make birth control available for women- more palatable by comparison. But nice try!

It is sad to see you do not believe in the words of your goddess...   

[yldouright]

I would be surprised if a police officer that patrols in tough neighbourhoods has the lowest probability of injury out of all blue collar jobs![

Absolutely true in NY and LA and I suspect in other major US cities! Sanitation workers, plumbers, electricians, bus drivers and construction workers all rank higher than police. We should be thankful that there are guys like Soros willing to put their money on the line to fund civil rights. Yes, it is self interest that motivates this act but it would be easier to not do anything and many people well off live exactly this way, letting all the authoritative abuses go unchecked.

[Wilikon]

I would be surprised if a police officer that patrols in tough neighbourhoods has the lowest probability of injury out of all blue collar jobs![

Absolutely true in NY and LA and I suspect in other major US cities! Sanitation workers, plumbers, electricians, bus drivers and construction workers all rank higher than police. We should be thankful that there are guys like Soros willing to put their money on the line to fund civil rights. Yes, it is self interest that motivates this act but it would be easier to not do anything and many people well off live exactly this way, letting all the authoritative abuses go unchecked.

Does soros really care about blacks?

[jaysabi]

Gee, a bible wacko who took a bunch of quotes out of context and put them on her website to promote her radical conservative agenda. It's no wonder you love it so much! Sanger has said some reprehensible things related to race, but trying to pretend PP's intention under her direction was abortion is stretching the truth too far, and the facts don't back you up. Actually read Sanger's works, her concern above all else is access to birth control which is illegal when she gets politically involved. PP didn't get involved in abortion until after she died, and under her direction, the aim was always prophylactics and their legalization and education for the public, and especially turning social attitudes towards their acceptance, despite how hard conservatives fought on the issue (and still continue to fight on the issue). Sanger's on the record extensively as being against abortion and the taking of infant life, which is why her words in the quote in question are obviously ironic, and written for shock value, and especially to make her true intention- to make birth control available for women- more palatable by comparison. But nice try!

It is sad to see you do not believe in the words of your goddess...   

So your rebuttal to being caught in your misrepresentations of PP is to post another quote that also doesn't prove your original point but only tangentially correlates?

[TECSHARE]

Margret Sanger, speaking in her own words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&v=9IvPhKuDPGM&feature=player_detailpage&x-yt-cl=85114404#t=111

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsrOPDdbTzM

[Wilikon]

Margret Sanger, speaking in her own words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&v=9IvPhKuDPGM&feature=player_detailpage&x-yt-cl=85114404#t=111

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsrOPDdbTzM

[jaysabi]

You've still yet to provide any credible evidence that Sanger intended to start abortion houses to target blacks, as per your original statements. If this were true, I suspect PP's focus would have been on abortions first under Sanger's direction, and not contraception, as was actually the case.

Btw:

In the 1920s various theories of eugenics were popular among intellectuals in the United States. For example, 75% of colleges offered courses on eugenics. Sanger, in her campaign to promote birth control, teamed with eugenics organizations such as the American Eugenics Society, although she argued against many of their positions. Scholars describe Sanger as believing that birth control, sterilization and abortion should be voluntary and not based on race. She advocated for "voluntary motherhood"—the right to choose when to be pregnant—for all women, as an important element of women's rights. Opponents of Planned Parenthood often refer to Sanger's connection with supporters of eugenics to discredit the organization by associating it, and birth control, with the more negative modern view of eugenics. Planned Parenthood has responded to this effort directly in a leaflet acknowledging that Sanger agreed with some of her contemporaries who advocated the voluntary hospitalization or sterilization of people with untreatable, disabling, hereditary conditions, and limits on the immigration of the diseased. The leaflet also states that Planned Parenthood "finds these views objectionable and outmoded" but says that it was compelled to discuss the topic because "anti-family planning activists continue to attack Sanger . . . because she is an easier target" than Planned Parenthood.

I guess the fact that this answers your bogus criticisms so perfectly is evidence of you taking your talking points directly from the bible thumpers who are trying so hard to distort history. You haven't said anything novel, just repeated the same trash that's been discredited so frequently, it has an entry on Wikipedia about it.

[TECSHARE]

I guess the fact that this answers your bogus criticisms so perfectly is evidence of you taking your talking points directly from the bible thumpers who are trying so hard to distort history. You haven't said anything novel, just repeated the same trash that's been discredited so frequently, it has an entry on Wikipedia about it.

You are so wrapped up in your anti-religion stance that you fail to see that the people bringing this issue up are opposed to eugenics, not necessarily anti-abortion.

[Wilikon]

You've still yet to provide any credible evidence that Sanger intended to start abortion houses to target blacks, as per your original statements. If this were true, I suspect PP's focus would have been on abortions first under Sanger's direction, and not contraception, as was actually the case.

Btw:

In the 1920s various theories of eugenics were popular among intellectuals in the United States. For example, 75% of colleges offered courses on eugenics. Sanger, in her campaign to promote birth control, teamed with eugenics organizations such as the American Eugenics Society, although she argued against many of their positions. Scholars describe Sanger as believing that birth control, sterilization and abortion should be voluntary and not based on race. She advocated for "voluntary motherhood"—the right to choose when to be pregnant—for all women, as an important element of women's rights. Opponents of Planned Parenthood often refer to Sanger's connection with supporters of eugenics to discredit the organization by associating it, and birth control, with the more negative modern view of eugenics. Planned Parenthood has responded to this effort directly in a leaflet acknowledging that Sanger agreed with some of her contemporaries who advocated the voluntary hospitalization or sterilization of people with untreatable, disabling, hereditary conditions, and limits on the immigration of the diseased. The leaflet also states that Planned Parenthood "finds these views objectionable and outmoded" but says that it was compelled to discuss the topic because "anti-family planning activists continue to attack Sanger . . . because she is an easier target" than Planned Parenthood.

I guess the fact that this answers your bogus criticisms so perfectly is evidence of you taking your talking points directly from the bible thumpers who are trying so hard to distort history. You haven't said anything novel, just repeated the same trash that's been discredited so frequently, it has an entry on Wikipedia about it.

[picolo]

I guess the fact that this answers your bogus criticisms so perfectly is evidence of you taking your talking points directly from the bible thumpers who are trying so hard to distort history. You haven't said anything novel, just repeated the same trash that's been discredited so frequently, it has an entry on Wikipedia about it.

You are so wrapped up in your anti-religion stance that you fail to see that the people bringing this issue up are opposed to eugenics, not necessarily anti-abortion.

Atheist want to impose their view on everyone while using the argument that religions are bad because they impose their view on people, come on!

[Wilikon]

I guess the fact that this answers your bogus criticisms so perfectly is evidence of you taking your talking points directly from the bible thumpers who are trying so hard to distort history. You haven't said anything novel, just repeated the same trash that's been discredited so frequently, it has an entry on Wikipedia about it.

You are so wrapped up in your anti-religion stance that you fail to see that the people bringing this issue up are opposed to eugenics, not necessarily anti-abortion.

Atheist want to impose their view on everyone while using the argument that religions are bad because they impose their view on people, come on!

In the case of this character here, he/she/it/they do(es) not define what atheism should be. For example he/she/it/they is(are) definitely not a skeptic.

When you believe so strongly in the idolatry of the sanctity of sanger's thoughts and memoirs using wikipedia's lonely link, making your faith in her image denying what you see and hear yourself from multiple sources and years of evidence, then you became what you hate most: a religious zealot...

 

[Wilikon]

Infighting Alert! Al Sharpton Asks If Young Black Protesters Are Stupid, Compares Them To Whores Being ‘Pimped’ By Others

[...]
Today, the 60-year-old reverend responded to the growing challenge by lashing out at younger activists, addressing them in a speech to his congregants.

“They are pimping you,” he said, referring to activists who he said were trying to divide young protesters from the older generation of activists.
…
“I’ve been meeting with them and talking with them since. And they were told, ‘Your problem is Al Sharpton and the other guys.’ Anytime you have movements, whether it’s in Ferguson, whether it’s in New York, whether it’s in Denver, wherever it is, when they got you more angry at your parents then they got you at the vote you’re supposed to be out there for, you’re being tricked and you’re trying to turn the community into tricks. And they are pimping you, to do the Willie Lynch in our community.”
…
“And why they got y’all arguing about old or young in Ferguson, they running an election and y’all ain’t got a candidate in the race. Cause you’re busy arguing with your mommy and daddy when they re-electing a mayor, and re-electing a prosecutor. They got you arguing about who going to lead a march—the old or the young—when they cutting up the city budget. You can’t be that stupid! You more worried about who going to lead [National Action Network] than who going to be the governor with a multi-billion dollar budget that you got to pay state tax in. You can’t be that stupid.

Sharpton added, “It’s the disconnect that is the strategy to break the movement. And they play on your ego. ‘Oh, you young and hip, you’re full of fire. You’re the new face.’ All the stuff that they know will titillate your ears. That’s what a pimp says to a ho.”
…
“They tell them what they want to hear,” he said. “They don’t tell you ‘I’m going to turn you out.’ They tell you ‘You’re beautiful. Nobody appreciates you like I do. Look at you. You deserve all these material things. You’re not being in that London Fog coat. You should be in minks. You should have diamonds. You should have earnings [and] all you’ve got to do is come with me. We can have a brand new car together. We can buy a house in the suburbs together.’ And after they seduce you, they reduce you. And I’m not going to sit here and let them reduce our children.”

[...]
In a statement to Capital following Sharpton’s speech,[young protester Josmar] Trujillo wrote, “In New York, specifically in the majority of the work happening in the last year, Sharpton’s brand is largely seen as destructive at worst– irrelevant at best.”

Trujillo also said, “As we move ahead here in New York, inspired by Ferguson youth, we’re speaking truth to power. Sharpton, and others like him, are in fact much too cozy with power to fill that role. For the former informant to paternalistically admonish younger, more dynamic leaders by comparing them to ‘hoes’ is just another self-serving attempt to squash dissent as he wrestles for control of a movement that’s leaving him behind.”



http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/city-hall/2015/01/8561365/amid-tensions-sharpton-lashes-out-younger-activists

[Wilikon]

Hilarious! #BlackLivesMatter Protests Al Sharpton At His National Action Network Office In NYC

In other related news:

Records Show Every Business Started By Al Sharpton Has Been Closed For Failing To Pay Taxes…

Records show that Sharpton’s beleaguered for-profit entities often overlap and intertwine, some sharing ties with the reverend’s nonprofit organization, National Action Network. Their financial records are copious, confusing, and sometimes outright bizarre, and together, they depict persistent financial woes for Sharpton, who also personally owes New York State nearly $596,000, according to active tax warrants.

n that’s available to us — to have a history of noncompliance with tax obligations,” says Bernadette Schopfer, the director of taxation at New York’s Maier Markey & Justic, a certified public-accounting firm that has had no dealings with Sharpton or National Action Network. “It appears that [Sharpton] does not file [taxes for his businesses], and then opens up something else. At all the entities we see he has opened up, he has not been compliant with the obligations of the owner of a business. . . . He’s either willful in his behavior, or he’s just sloppy.”

Sharpton, who was traveling internationally, was unavailable for an interview, despite NRO’s numerous queries over several days.



http://www.nationalreview.com/article/397681/busted-jillian-kay-melchior

[picolo]

Let's start to stop saying African American for every black in America when they are not even from Africa sometimes or they have been in the States for centuries. It's racist!

[Wilikon]

Let's start to stop saying African American for every black in America when they are not even from Africa sometimes or they have been in the States for centuries. It's racist!

... Or call our president "african american" when his mom was white and his father had no slaves born in america, or brazil, in his long ancestry...

Can anyone prove me wrong and find that elusive 0bama slave from the american cotton fields, or the brazilian sugar cane fields?

[funtotry]

Interesting thread, good to see the views from both sides of the conversation.