It's funny to see these thugs in Ferguson bitching about how they have nothing

[arbitrage001]

Generational poverty. Granpa had nothing, Dad had nothing, kids have nothing, thier kids have nothing. It goes on and on. They do however manage to cling to a misplaced sense of pride, and an irrational fear/envy/hatered of anyone who has been fiscally responsable and has anything to show for it.
The reality of "Gangster Lifestyle" is that it is a totally hand-to-mouth existance. they may flash a few thousand dollars around at the club, but it is really easy to spend that kind of money at a club or via an ignorant lifestyle. They are perpetually going broke and therefore perpetually on the take, after your hard earned money, even if they have to kill you to get it. But a cop (earns ~ what ateacher makes, with no 2 months paid vacation every year, namely not that much) who is tasked with trying to do damage control around these entitled morons, that cop is guaranteed corrupt, evil, murderous and racist to boot!

I've got a teenager of my own at home, and while she is a good kid, and we have her thinking about money and her future, she is obliged to work and save and keep her grades up and she is going to college wether she likes it or not...she is still a teen ager. Teenage logic goes like this; teenager is doing something they KNOW they shouldnt be doing, teenager gets busted by an adult. Teenager screams blue murder, so unfair! Adult is way out of line, isnt respecting me! has no right! blah blah blah! Its always someone else's fault, NEVER is it "You are right, I was wrong, I am sorry, please let me make amends." NEVER. It is called scapegoating; deflecting blame. I cant believe everyone is so angry that this cop stopped this kid who blatantly stole from a store, then attacked him physically when he was doing his job and wound up getting shot! They say "kid" he was over 6 feet tall, athletic, and obviously with a bad "tough guy" attitude... I'd be pretty afraid too.

I'm not saying there arent problems, especially in USA, but that does not mean that it is a free pass for every bottom feeder and opportunist out there to rob steal and intimidate unchecked and unfettered. seriously. The system is far from perfect, but it is infinitely preferable to how things would be if the thugs were in charge. They cant even operate a laundry machine ffs

Keen observation. Entitlement attitude in the country has to change.

[Wilikon]

...when they have thousands of dollars of ink tatted all over their bodies and up their arms.

This is what people mean by the "entitled" culture. People think a paycheck is meant to blow on fun stuff while the government picks up the tab for your basic necessities like food, housing, healthcare or child care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpsQwl_19M4

[yldouright]

The anti-gun mentality is propaganda brainwashing perpetrated on the people, by their government, using the people's wishes for peace to implement the brainwashing, so that government can systematically rape and plunder the people.

This is the result of the anti-gun laws but not their original purpose. The people need to enact legislation to prohibit gun carrying by the police.

lethn
+1
There are ways to fix this world and the first step is to attack the root cause of oppression. I have some ideas on how this can be done in this thread.

[L3G1T]

I agree with you hundred percent dude.

[iCEBREAKER]

It's not perfect, but there's a reason why so many Europeans think your country is ridiculous.

I think it's safe to say that most European countries have problems of their own to worry about. Pot calling the kettle black.

It's funny when the snotty Euro-trash get mouthy, because the origin of America was a direct result of intolerable conditions in the Old World (which later led to two world wars, among other innumerable conflicts).

[galbros]

I agree with what Ramsey wrote early on in this thread.  The people who get attention are the most extreme and US policy decisions regarding immigration and narcotics make upward mobility problematic.  The disaster that is the US public school system offers little hope as well.

As to the OP's point about ink, sure, and a lot of them also have iPhones.  Yes I would prefer they invest in themselves but that's their choice.  I agree, it does not engender a lot of sympathy but I think the issue is a lot more complicated than it appears.

[Wilikon]

"He's Trying To Mike Brown Me!..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYNdrsxrgNo

What does the shooting death of an 18-year-old in Ferguson, Missouri, have to do with a shopper in a Pennsylvania Wal-Mart?

Quite a lot, if you ask the shopper.

When a man was detained on Black Friday and asked to prove that he had paid for his merchandise, he quickly got his friend to start recording and invoked the name of Michael Brown as he defended himself against the police.

The problem: as the video shows, the police officer talking to the shopper remains extraordinarily calm, even as the shopper yells at him and refuses to comply with his requests.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/29/absolutely-disgusting-keep-a-close-eye-on-the-cops-reaction-as-a-black-friday-shopper-claims-that-hes-being-harassed-like-mike-brown/

[jaysabi]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

[Wilikon]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

[Wilikon]

VIDEO>>> SNIPERS TAKE POSITION Atop #Ferguson Rooftops – Protesters VERY UPSET (Video)

Ferguson businesses – the ones that are still standing – brought in local militias this week to protect their property from violent protesters, looters and arsonists.
The militia volunteers were members of the Oathkeepers, an organization founded in 2009 to protect the Constitution and individual rights.

One woman was very upset that the members were guarding a Ferguson business. The woman actually says it’s wrong for the militia to protect other people’s property.

“It’s not a joke, I’m sorry. It’s not about intentionality(?) This is somebody else’s property, not even yours. And, you’re volunteering too. You’re not even being paid… It’s unacceptable. It’s diabolical. It’s sinful.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jWEEB61xQ8



Ferguson police forced the Oathkeepers off of the rooftops on Saturday after complaints by protesters.
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported:

They are volunteers affiliated with a 35,000-member national organization called Oath Keepers. Yale Law School graduate and libertarian Stewart Rhodes said by telephone from Montana that he founded the group in 2009 to protect constitutional rights, including those of protesters confronted by what he described as overly militarized police.

Police questioned group members early in the week and allowed them to stay. But Saturday, after media inquiries, St. Louis County police officers ordered the Oath Keepers to leave the rooftops.

Threatened with arrest for operating without a license, the volunteers argued but eventually left their positions early Saturday, Rhodes said.

“We are going to go back as protesters,” Rhodes said Saturday afternoon.

Rhodes, who said he is Mexican-American, stressed that Oath Keepers is not anti-government. He said the volunteers handling rooftop security in Ferguson were current or former government employees and first responders, many who have intense military, police and EMS training.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/video-snipers-take-position-atop-ferguson-rooftops-protesters-very-upset-video/

[jaysabi]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

Haha!    No, I'm just not high on blogspam (on either side) that takes a story and repackages it into inflammatory material to feed a particular base's rigid mindset. The Blaze is certainly one of those. The left has their share of them too. They're just obnoxious articles that add very little, if any, value to what are important conversations.

[RodeoX]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

Haha!    No, I'm just not high on blogspam (on either side) that takes a story and repackages it into inflammatory material to feed a particular base's rigid mindset. The Blaze is certainly one of those. The left has their share of them too. They're just obnoxious articles that add very little, if any, value to what are important conversations.

There was a time when the news was about informing people, now its just about marketing and clicking on ads. The news outlets will print anything to get you to look.

[jaysabi]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

Haha!    No, I'm just not high on blogspam (on either side) that takes a story and repackages it into inflammatory material to feed a particular base's rigid mindset. The Blaze is certainly one of those. The left has their share of them too. They're just obnoxious articles that add very little, if any, value to what are important conversations.

There was a time when the news was about informing people, now its just about marketing and clicking on ads. The news outlets will print anything to get you to look.

I agree. Media is a business, and the purpose of owning a business is to make money. Any cable media is no longer in the business of reporting news, but spinning news to press their viewers' preconceived rage points. Then there is another step to the extreme in websites like The Blaze that really whore themselves out to get you to click that link. You can tell how much integrity one of these 'news' sites has by how often they use subjective adjectives in their headlines. For example, "Absolutely Disgusting" might be something that appears in a headline about the behavior of a black shopper to get conservative minded folks to click through and see for themselves just how disgusting some people are.  (See the previous Blaze link if you want to see for yourself!)

The problem is these headlines work. They make a ton of money. That's why there's so many of them.

[Wilikon]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

Haha!    No, I'm just not high on blogspam (on either side) that takes a story and repackages it into inflammatory material to feed a particular base's rigid mindset. The Blaze is certainly one of those. The left has their share of them too. They're just obnoxious articles that add very little, if any, value to what are important conversations.

There was a time when the news was about informing people, now its just about marketing and clicking on ads. The news outlets will print anything to get you to look.

I agree. Media is a business, and the purpose of owning a business is to make money. Any cable media is no longer in the business of reporting news, but spinning news to press their viewers' preconceived rage points. Then there is another step to the extreme in websites like The Blaze that really whore themselves out to get you to click that link. You can tell how much integrity one of these 'news' sites has by how often they use subjective adjectives in their headlines. For example, "Absolutely Disgusting" might be something that appears in a headline about the behavior of a black shopper to get conservative minded folks to click through and see for themselves just how disgusting some people are.  (See the previous Blaze link if you want to see for yourself!)

The problem is these headlines work. They make a ton of money. That's why there's so many of them.

And that is why we have a brain and sort out or believe what we want and reject what we do not want. I would copy paste a few lines and and always give credit by adding a link to the original source where I saw that information. In this case you could bypass the blaze and just watch the video while getting some context. Then not trusting the blaze you could google/duck duck go/ bling that youtube video and read the behind the scene of that video. Maybe there was an personal history between the cop and the dude on the video being "mike browned", before.

Obviously most people do not care and are too lazy to do too much research and prefer to trust the main stream media, the one that makes the most money with the most advertising. That is their choice and is perfectly acceptable too

[TheButterZone]

Peaceful protesters very upset that they can't be martyred by police when the "militia" has the PP's back? /facepalm

[jaysabi]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

Haha!    No, I'm just not high on blogspam (on either side) that takes a story and repackages it into inflammatory material to feed a particular base's rigid mindset. The Blaze is certainly one of those. The left has their share of them too. They're just obnoxious articles that add very little, if any, value to what are important conversations.

There was a time when the news was about informing people, now its just about marketing and clicking on ads. The news outlets will print anything to get you to look.

I agree. Media is a business, and the purpose of owning a business is to make money. Any cable media is no longer in the business of reporting news, but spinning news to press their viewers' preconceived rage points. Then there is another step to the extreme in websites like The Blaze that really whore themselves out to get you to click that link. You can tell how much integrity one of these 'news' sites has by how often they use subjective adjectives in their headlines. For example, "Absolutely Disgusting" might be something that appears in a headline about the behavior of a black shopper to get conservative minded folks to click through and see for themselves just how disgusting some people are.  (See the previous Blaze link if you want to see for yourself!)

The problem is these headlines work. They make a ton of money. That's why there's so many of them.

And that is why we have a brain and sort out or believe what we want and reject what we do not want. I would copy paste a few lines and and always give credit by adding a link to the original source where I saw that information. In this case you could bypass the blaze and just watch the video while getting some context. Then not trusting the blaze you could google/duck duck go/ bling that youtube video and read the behind the scene of that video. Maybe there was an personal history between the cop and the dude on the video being "mike browned", before.

Obviously most people do not care and are too lazy to do too much research and prefer to trust the main stream media, the one that makes the most money with the most advertising. That is their choice and is perfectly acceptable too

If people were interested in unbiased information, something like The Blaze wouldn't exist. People don't want that though. They want pieces that make them feel superior to groups they view as inferior, so they can post them wherever and rant about how terrible some groups are for doing or thinking [insert racial or political stereotype here]. The Blaze is worst than most because it foments division and hatred by playing on racial undertones, otherwise there'd by no reason to point out the race of people they're writing about in the headlines. 'Check out the disgusting way this black shopper acted around this cop' or whatever the headline was. The point isn't that some guy was disrespectful to a cop, it's that he's black and he's acting in a way you should hate. The headline tells you that much.

My question is, if you know a site is a disgraceful click monger and their presentation of information is so biased and serves no legitimate news function, why do you post them? Even if, as you say, people have brains and can decide for themselves if a source is worthy? If you're posting it and saying 'Decide for yourself if this is relevant information,' then it just looks like you're posting things you agree approve of. And in the case of this specific Blaze story, the story trying to appeal to people on the basis of 'look at this ridiculous black guy' is what's disgusting.

[Wilikon]

http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2014/12/chicago-based-reporter-who-published-darren-wilsons-address-wanted-a-list-police-protection.html


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Note to julie: make sure you have friends among the people whose colleague you've made a target of, next time...

[brian_23452]

...when they have thousands of dollars of ink tatted all over their bodies and up their arms.

This is what people mean by the "entitled" culture. People think a paycheck is meant to blow on fun stuff while the government picks up the tab for your basic necessities like food, housing, healthcare or child care.

Really?  I thought they were "bitching" about being brutalized and murdered by armed white racist thugs. 

[brian_23452]

...when they have thousands of dollars of ink tatted all over their bodies and up their arms.

This is what people mean by the "entitled" culture. People think a paycheck is meant to blow on fun stuff while the government picks up the tab for your basic necessities like food, housing, healthcare or child care.

It always amuses me when poor white trash bitches about a black guy getting a 200 dollar welfare check to help make ends meet.  Meanwhile, the tax payers of St. Louis have cut a 528 MILLION dollar welfare check to the owner of the Rams, a man worth 6 BILLION dollars, and not even bat an eye.  Talk about needing tax payers to pay for your toys!

[Wilikon]

The Blaze. Journalistic integrity at its finest.

The blaze tried to mike brown you too?

Haha!    No, I'm just not high on blogspam (on either side) that takes a story and repackages it into inflammatory material to feed a particular base's rigid mindset. The Blaze is certainly one of those. The left has their share of them too. They're just obnoxious articles that add very little, if any, value to what are important conversations.

There was a time when the news was about informing people, now its just about marketing and clicking on ads. The news outlets will print anything to get you to look.

I agree. Media is a business, and the purpose of owning a business is to make money. Any cable media is no longer in the business of reporting news, but spinning news to press their viewers' preconceived rage points. Then there is another step to the extreme in websites like The Blaze that really whore themselves out to get you to click that link. You can tell how much integrity one of these 'news' sites has by how often they use subjective adjectives in their headlines. For example, "Absolutely Disgusting" might be something that appears in a headline about the behavior of a black shopper to get conservative minded folks to click through and see for themselves just how disgusting some people are.  (See the previous Blaze link if you want to see for yourself!)

The problem is these headlines work. They make a ton of money. That's why there's so many of them.

And that is why we have a brain and sort out or believe what we want and reject what we do not want. I would copy paste a few lines and and always give credit by adding a link to the original source where I saw that information. In this case you could bypass the blaze and just watch the video while getting some context. Then not trusting the blaze you could google/duck duck go/ bling that youtube video and read the behind the scene of that video. Maybe there was an personal history between the cop and the dude on the video being "mike browned", before.

Obviously most people do not care and are too lazy to do too much research and prefer to trust the main stream media, the one that makes the most money with the most advertising. That is their choice and is perfectly acceptable too

If people were interested in unbiased information, something like The Blaze wouldn't exist. People don't want that though. They want pieces that make them feel superior to groups they view as inferior, so they can post them wherever and rant about how terrible some groups are for doing or thinking [insert racial or political stereotype here]. The Blaze is worst than most because it foments division and hatred by playing on racial undertones, otherwise there'd by no reason to point out the race of people they're writing about in the headlines. 'Check out the disgusting way this black shopper acted around this cop' or whatever the headline was. The point isn't that some guy was disrespectful to a cop, it's that he's black and he's acting in a way you should hate. The headline tells you that much.

My question is, if you know a site is a disgraceful click monger and their presentation of information is so biased and serves no legitimate news function, why do you post them? Even if, as you say, people have brains and can decide for themselves if a source is worthy? If you're posting it and saying 'Decide for yourself if this is relevant information,' then it just looks like you're posting things you agree approve of. And in the case of this specific Blaze story, the story trying to appeal to people on the basis of 'look at this ridiculous black guy' is what's disgusting.

If people were interested in unbiased information, something like CNN wouldn't exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZFZmQCA1KE