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February 15, 2015, 08:25:04 PM |
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While I hope the issues with both exchanges are resolved soon, since, for now at least, we're somewhat dependent on them for trade, I can't help but be deeply disturbed by the fact that people would leave "tens of thousands of dollars in BTC" in the care of an individual or group of individuals they've never even met. For those who are supposedly on the cutting edge of innovation, it seems baffling that people still aren't learning from the mistakes of previous failed exchanges like gox. If you do not hold the keys, you risk the loss your coins. Simple as that. It's rare for me to leave more than ten bucks on an exchange. I can't even begin to imagine how someone would entrust ten thousand to one of them.
Well in my case it was a quick trade (under 20 minutes) and then ... my Qora never arrived.
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February 15, 2015, 08:28:41 PM |
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Good call, move our coins to the other exchange we can't withdraw from. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Vrontis
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February 16, 2015, 12:50:43 AM Last edit: February 16, 2015, 08:02:34 PM by Vrontis |
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Poll ended today at block 75623 (2015-02-15 23:58:35 GMT) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlRwQ3Gi.png&t=665&c=2H6MDmVCvqpEVQ) Qora members gave authorization to the AT team ( CIYAM Developers) in order to proceed with a new wallet version that will launch the Automated Transactions feature on Qora. This poll has gathered the 17% from the balances of Qora's users, making this poll to have the largest participation ever made on Qora's poll feature. The decision was unanimous among voters showing the importance of people's voice and how their decision could lead to a new era. With the AT live on Qora's blockchain, we can claim that we are part of the world's first "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" between Qora and Burst, establishing a completely decentralized way of trading in cryptocurrencies.
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February 16, 2015, 02:17:36 AM |
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Fact is we see that some people, on most threads concerning this SCAM,likely BTER employees and affiliates, are spreading disinfo as in reaction phishing , checking to see blacklash of their actions, finding how the people react and if it is quiet enough for them to get away with the money, not necessarily for the money itself. This is a hard hit meant for altcoin community, possibly and most likely an inside job. The only reasonable answer is found through the logic that we , as a community, are in desperate need of making a stand ASAP. For my part, if need arises and this actually is an inside job( as it looks from the cold wallet theft??? ) we are waiting on the good will of the Developers and their understanding of the gravity of this affair such that they take the measure of the 20mb forks for the recovery of victimezed investors. In this case i will gladly forfeit 15% of each coin that i had stored on BTER, towards the respective developer, as payment for the community service. For QORA this means 15% of 118000000 = 18000000 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=956560.new#new
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February 16, 2015, 03:47:01 AM |
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There is no exchange for Qora now, Bter is NOT available since 7100+ BTC is stolen, and qora is frozen in polo, holy sh*t.
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February 16, 2015, 07:45:49 AM |
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Poll ended today at block 75623 (2015-02-15 23:58:35 GMT) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlRwQ3Gi.png&t=665&c=2H6MDmVCvqpEVQ) Qora members gave authorization to the AT team ( CIYAM Developers) in order to proceed with a new wallet version that will launch the Automated Transactions feature on Qora. This poll has gathered the 17% from the balances of Qora's users, making this poll to have the largest participation ever made on Qora's poll feature. The decision was unanimous among voters showing the importance of people's voice and how their decision could lead to a new era. With the AT live on Qora's blockchain, we can claim that we are part of the world's first "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" between Qora and Burst, establishing a completely decentralized way of trading in cryptocurrencies. It should be taken into account, that the blockexplorer does not have to show correct balances, and the results are slightly different from what you can see in Qora client. And feature voting had over 2 billions votes, when finished. However, good decision, community!
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February 16, 2015, 10:01:35 AM |
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Poll ended today at block 75623 (2015-02-15 23:58:35 GMT) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlRwQ3Gi.png&t=665&c=2H6MDmVCvqpEVQ) Qora members gave authorization to the AT team ( CIYAM Developers) in order to proceed with a new wallet version that will launch the Automated Transactions feature on Qora. This poll has gathered the 17% from the balances of Qora's users, making this poll to have the largest participation ever made on Qora's poll feature. The decision was unanimous among voters showing the importance of people's voice and how their decision could lead to a new era. With the AT live on Qora's blockchain, we can claim that we are part of the world's first "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" between Qora and Burst, establishing a completely decentralized way of trading in cryptocurrencies. Great news!! Another democratic vote from the community, regarding qora's future plan. First world wide "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" will soon come!!!!!!
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February 16, 2015, 03:24:47 PM |
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Fact is we see that some people, on most threads concerning this SCAM,likely BTER employees and affiliates, are spreading disinfo as in reaction phishing , checking to see blacklash of their actions, finding how the people react and if it is quiet enough for them to get away with the money, not necessarily for the money itself. This is a hard hit meant for altcoin community, possibly and most likely an inside job. The only reasonable answer is found through the logic that we , as a community, are in desperate need of making a stand ASAP. For my part, if need arises and this actually is an inside job( as it looks from the cold wallet theft??? ) we are waiting on the good will of the Developers and their understanding of the gravity of this affair such that they take the measure of the 20mb forks for the recovery of victimezed investors. In this case i will gladly forfeit 15% of each coin that i had stored on BTER, towards the respective developer, as payment for the community service. For QORA this means 15% of 118000000 = 18000000 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=956560.new#new So you are saying that when your funds are restored, you donate 18.000.000 for the community development? That would be awesome!
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February 16, 2015, 04:19:07 PM |
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i created a ticket at poloniex freshdesk for the Qora deposit problem a few weeks ago. And this is the last answer: Hi olcaytu2005,
We haven't received word from the QORA developer yet, we keep trying to make the wallet work but without success.
Nothing we done so far has helped the wallet to sync and stay online, but we will keep trying and will keep attempting contact with the QORA developer.
I apologize for the inconvenience.
Best regards,
Johnny Garcia
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February 16, 2015, 04:20:55 PM |
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Great news!! Another democratic vote from the community, regarding qora's future plan.
First world wide "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" will soon come!!!!!!
Could you explain what it means "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" basically?
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February 16, 2015, 04:31:32 PM |
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Great news!! Another democratic vote from the community, regarding qora's future plan.
First world wide "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" will soon come!!!!!!
Could you explain what it means "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" basically? http://ciyam.org/at/at_atomic.htmlhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826263.0Transfer between two different blockchains, eg qora-burst!!! True dex!
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February 16, 2015, 04:36:39 PM |
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Woow. i havent heard about it before. but it sounds interesting and amazing. is there any countdown for that?
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February 16, 2015, 04:41:37 PM |
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With the Bter hack leaving a huge number of Qora coins in a state of uncertainty, this is a huge opportunity for the CIYAM team to take Qora to another level. Implementing a decentralized exchange inside of a new Qora wallet much like Counterparty already has would bring a level of safety and security to the project and would serve as a best-practice benchmark other coins would need to live up to in order to survive long-term. Burst would be an ideal piggy-back blockchain for Qora to use as a decentralized exchange platform since its AT functionality has already been proven.
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February 16, 2015, 04:46:02 PM |
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It is a HUGE thing. Not just for Qora,but for the whole cryptoworld!
THe same goes for AT in general.
I believe Vrontis and CIYAM Developers can answer your question about the timeplan
Edit: sorry for the mispelling
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February 16, 2015, 04:46:56 PM |
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Vrontis and CIYAM Developers can answer your question about the timeplan
Please get the name right (it is only 5 letters). To make it easier to remember (and what is actually is an acronym for): CIYAM Is You And Me
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Vrontis
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February 16, 2015, 08:22:18 PM |
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It should be taken into account, that the blockexplorer does not have to show correct balances, and the results are slightly different from what you can see in Qora client. I had noticed that but I decided to go through public data and what is actually displayed on block explorer (as I was wondering that I may be on a fork). As you are seeing the same as well then it's not only me. My wallet says the below ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.snag.gy%2F41NVI.jpg&t=665&c=zZ0kQO9fqCJxLw) Block explorer says the below ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.snag.gy%2FTDeal.jpg&t=665&c=yZoTLlhSZJeCfA) PMed agran about it this any case. And feature voting had over 2 billions votes, when finished.
I not able to recall those results correctly but in any case I have added a strike-through to this comment. This poll has gathered the 17% from the balances of Qora's users, making this poll to have the largest participation ever made on Qora's poll feature.
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Vrontis
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February 16, 2015, 08:57:10 PM |
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For my part, if need arises and this actually is an inside job( as it looks from the cold wallet theft??? ) we are waiting on the good will of the Developers and their understanding of the gravity of this affair such that they take the measure of the 20mb forks for the recovery of victimezed investors.
So, you prefer/propose a "possible hard fork" as a solution? ...and let the Great Blockchain Civil War begin.
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Vrontis
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February 16, 2015, 09:34:05 PM |
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Woow. i havent heard about it before. but it sounds interesting and amazing. is there any countdown for that?
At the moment, no, we don't have a countdown for that. There was a discussion between me, vbcs and skerberus about the process and how we will proceed. As we discussed, the rules applied by Qora dev can and will be followed. The new wallet release will just have AT live, nothing more, nothing less. First the implementation of the AT needs to be finished.There might be more than one wallet releases as the AT team keeps deploying additional AT functionalities.This will be assessed during the whole progress.
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February 16, 2015, 10:50:10 PM |
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Shit! I still hold my QORA off-exchange what is with https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_qoraThere is no exchange for Qora now, Bter is NOT available since 7100+ BTC is stolen, and qora is frozen in polo, holy sh*t.
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