SalimNagamato
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December 15, 2014, 03:59:51 PM |
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^ i think its related to china day time... don't tell its a secret i saw what you say in many coins... at day time down, evening-night (when rich american/EU guys trade) up probably nonsense:)
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not hashing, folding and curing (check FLDC merged-folding! reuse good GPUs)
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December 15, 2014, 04:57:40 PM |
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Small new AK/KING article can be found here.
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Zywiec
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December 15, 2014, 06:07:35 PM |
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How about Bittrex?
Is request approved?
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drays
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December 15, 2014, 07:36:11 PM |
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@KeyserSozeMC (and actually to anyone, who understands what I am talking about below ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) : could you please explain me one strange thing? I am not an experienced miner, more of a newbie, just trying to understand some facts... Thought you could explain it, as an experienced altcoin pro ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is happening to many coins, not only KING, but it could be prominently seen on KING too: There are two questions actually, closely tied together: 1. When I look at the network hashrate, then to all the pools mentioned in the OP, I see that the net hashrate is about 2-3 times bigger than the sum of hashrates on all pools together! I know that "yaamp.com" is mining KING too, but if I add their hashrate, the sum still much less (again 2-3 times!!!) than the "network hashrate" displayed at the dashboard of the pools. Does it mean someone with huge hashrate is mining solo..? 2. When I look at the "Blocks" statistics on all of the pools in the OP (the ones which use MPOS, are showing that), on ALL pools the "percentage" of shares (actually showing the luck of the pool) is way over 100% during the whole coin's PoW time. It is around (118% on suchpool, 141% on suprnova, around 110-120% elsewhere). It means the pool always spent about 20%-40% more shares than the difficulty requires? How that could be? I suppose this would be around 100%. If its 140%, it means that the pool is constantly unlucky..? Does it mean that there is another very lucky pool, which makes the coins always at around 80% of the probability..? Again, this happens to many coins, but I thought I would ask you, as it is very visible on KING, and as you seem to be someone who understand how things work. Sorry if I used some terms in a wrong way, I am still learning. Hope you would take a little time to explain this in brief.
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DougB62
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December 15, 2014, 08:17:29 PM |
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@KeyserSozeMC (and actually to anyone, who understands what I am talking about below ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) : could you please explain me one strange thing? I am not an experienced miner, more of a newbie, just trying to understand some facts... Thought you could explain it, as an experienced altcoin pro ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is happening to many coins, not only KING, but it could be prominently seen on KING too: There are two questions actually, closely tied together: 1. When I look at the network hashrate, then to all the pools mentioned in the OP, I see that the net hashrate is about 2-3 times bigger than the sum of hashrates on all pools together! I know that "yaamp.com" is mining KING too, but if I add their hashrate, the sum still much less (again 2-3 times!!!) than the "network hashrate" displayed at the dashboard of the pools. Does it mean someone with huge hashrate is mining solo..? 2. When I look at the "Blocks" statistics on all of the pools in the OP (the ones which use MPOS, are showing that), on ALL pools the "percentage" of shares (actually showing the luck of the pool) is way over 100% during the whole coin's PoW time. It is around (118% on suchpool, 141% on suprnova, around 110-120% elsewhere). It means the pool always spent about 20%-40% more shares than the difficulty requires? How that could be? I suppose this would be around 100%. If its 140%, it means that the pool is constantly unlucky..? Does it mean that there is another very lucky pool, which makes the coins always at around 80% of the probability..? Again, this happens to many coins, but I thought I would ask you, as it is very visible on KING, and as you seem to be someone who understand how things work. Sorry if I used some terms in a wrong way, I am still learning. Hope you would take a little time to explain this in brief. Can't answer #2 adequately - as for #1, People are solo mining, p2p mining, and private pool mining, adding to the total network hashrate.
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KeyserSozeMC (OP)
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December 15, 2014, 10:55:51 PM |
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@KeyserSozeMC (and actually to anyone, who understands what I am talking about below ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) : could you please explain me one strange thing? I am not an experienced miner, more of a newbie, just trying to understand some facts... Thought you could explain it, as an experienced altcoin pro ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is happening to many coins, not only KING, but it could be prominently seen on KING too: There are two questions actually, closely tied together: 1. When I look at the network hashrate, then to all the pools mentioned in the OP, I see that the net hashrate is about 2-3 times bigger than the sum of hashrates on all pools together! I know that "yaamp.com" is mining KING too, but if I add their hashrate, the sum still much less (again 2-3 times!!!) than the "network hashrate" displayed at the dashboard of the pools. Does it mean someone with huge hashrate is mining solo..? 2. When I look at the "Blocks" statistics on all of the pools in the OP (the ones which use MPOS, are showing that), on ALL pools the "percentage" of shares (actually showing the luck of the pool) is way over 100% during the whole coin's PoW time. It is around (118% on suchpool, 141% on suprnova, around 110-120% elsewhere). It means the pool always spent about 20%-40% more shares than the difficulty requires? How that could be? I suppose this would be around 100%. If its 140%, it means that the pool is constantly unlucky..? Does it mean that there is another very lucky pool, which makes the coins always at around 80% of the probability..? Again, this happens to many coins, but I thought I would ask you, as it is very visible on KING, and as you seem to be someone who understand how things work. Sorry if I used some terms in a wrong way, I am still learning. Hope you would take a little time to explain this in brief. It could be some whale scooping coins while hashrate is low. Someone bought from 1.4k to 4.4k today. Maybe it's the same guy accumulating KING. ( Not saying this is the scenario, but I've seen it many times ) Regarding your 2nd question, it's just visual, that's all. Nothing to worry about ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Hey, smexy. Don't waste your time. Time's precious.
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philipvdlinde
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December 16, 2014, 03:54:57 PM |
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Invested .3 btc at 2300 lets see what happens now.
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drays
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December 16, 2014, 06:54:52 PM |
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@KeyserSozeMC (and actually to anyone, who understands what I am talking about below ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) : could you please explain me one strange thing? I am not an experienced miner, more of a newbie, just trying to understand some facts... Thought you could explain it, as an experienced altcoin pro ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is happening to many coins, not only KING, but it could be prominently seen on KING too: There are two questions actually, closely tied together: 1. When I look at the network hashrate, then to all the pools mentioned in the OP, I see that the net hashrate is about 2-3 times bigger than the sum of hashrates on all pools together! I know that "yaamp.com" is mining KING too, but if I add their hashrate, the sum still much less (again 2-3 times!!!) than the "network hashrate" displayed at the dashboard of the pools. Does it mean someone with huge hashrate is mining solo..? 2. When I look at the "Blocks" statistics on all of the pools in the OP (the ones which use MPOS, are showing that), on ALL pools the "percentage" of shares (actually showing the luck of the pool) is way over 100% during the whole coin's PoW time. It is around (118% on suchpool, 141% on suprnova, around 110-120% elsewhere). It means the pool always spent about 20%-40% more shares than the difficulty requires? How that could be? I suppose this would be around 100%. If its 140%, it means that the pool is constantly unlucky..? Does it mean that there is another very lucky pool, which makes the coins always at around 80% of the probability..? Again, this happens to many coins, but I thought I would ask you, as it is very visible on KING, and as you seem to be someone who understand how things work. Sorry if I used some terms in a wrong way, I am still learning. Hope you would take a little time to explain this in brief. Can't answer #2 adequately - as for #1, People are solo mining, p2p mining, and private pool mining, adding to the total network hashrate.
It could be some whale scooping coins while hashrate is low. Someone bought from 1.4k to 4.4k today. Maybe it's the same guy accumulating KING. ( Not saying this is the scenario, but I've seen it many times ) Regarding your 2nd question, it's just visual, that's all. Nothing to worry about ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thanks DougB62 and KeyserSozeMC, it definitely makes sense. But I didn't really get the part regarding the second question. What it means 'its just visual'...? Do you mean the stats shown in the pool interfaces are wrong? I have mined the coin myself, and can confirm that indeed the mining reward is much less than the estimations, which is to be expected as all pools constantly have 120%-160% rate of "unlucky-ness". Is there a technical reason for this I don't see..?
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SalimNagamato
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December 16, 2014, 07:05:06 PM |
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when multipool joins (on low difficulty) and leaves (on high difficulty) it effects pools luck, which is usually bad also the pool's hashrate itself changes (big miners are also moving from coin to coin)
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not hashing, folding and curing (check FLDC merged-folding! reuse good GPUs)
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KeyserSozeMC (OP)
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December 16, 2014, 08:10:34 PM |
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when multipool joins (on low difficulty) and leaves (on high difficulty) it effects pools luck, which is usually bad also the pool's hashrate itself changes (big miners are also moving from coin to coin)
@ drays This exactly. Multipools jump on and off coins. Front end is not that quick when updating, that's the only reason afaIk. Thanks Salim ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Hey, smexy. Don't waste your time. Time's precious.
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December 16, 2014, 09:26:44 PM |
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Loving the wallet and stakings working really well but could you do something about the coin control window? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F25oxr46.png&t=665&c=o98G5uvi7yrE8Q) kinda awkward to use as it is ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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KeyserSozeMC (OP)
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December 16, 2014, 09:33:51 PM |
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Loving the wallet and stakings working really well but could you do something about the coin control window? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F25oxr46.png&t=665&c=o98G5uvi7yrE8Q) kinda awkward to use as it is ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) What OS do you use? Is that windows? It appears normally on my windows machine.
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Hey, smexy. Don't waste your time. Time's precious.
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CryptoHobo
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December 16, 2014, 10:45:27 PM |
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What OS do you use? Is that windows? It appears normally on my windows machine. yea windows 8.1 ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) pro x64 got objectdesktop but only use fences and deskscapes ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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KeyserSozeMC (OP)
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December 16, 2014, 11:00:19 PM |
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What OS do you use? Is that windows? It appears normally on my windows machine. yea windows 8.1 ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) pro x64 got objectdesktop but only use fences and deskscapes ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I am not sure. I'll check what can be done. Not familiar with Windows 8 ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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Hey, smexy. Don't waste your time. Time's precious.
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CryptoHobo
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December 16, 2014, 11:45:24 PM |
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What OS do you use? Is that windows? It appears normally on my windows machine. yea windows 8.1 ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) pro x64 got objectdesktop but only use fences and deskscapes ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I am not sure. I'll check what can be done. Not familiar with Windows 8 ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) lucky you ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) i really should roll back to 7 I'm just lazy. its useable just abit awkward. I'm wondering is anyone else running the wallet on windows 8? and if so same issue?
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KeyserSozeMC (OP)
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December 17, 2014, 12:02:12 AM |
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What OS do you use? Is that windows? It appears normally on my windows machine. yea windows 8.1 ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) pro x64 got objectdesktop but only use fences and deskscapes ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I am not sure. I'll check what can be done. Not familiar with Windows 8 ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) lucky you ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) i really should roll back to 7 I'm just lazy. its useable just abit awkward. I'm wondering is anyone else running the wallet on windows 8? and if so same issue? I used Windows 8 for less than an hour. After that, I re-installed Windows 7 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Guess we'll need to wait and see if someone else is having the same issue on a Win8 OS
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Hey, smexy. Don't waste your time. Time's precious.
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philipvdlinde
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December 17, 2014, 06:50:08 AM |
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Not that happy with the current price, I already invested back up funds, because of my losses.
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rnameltc
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December 17, 2014, 09:56:24 AM |
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The price dump is a bit surprising, but I think there will be another pump especially if the dev is active enough
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