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May 19, 2011, 01:15:26 AM
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SunAvatar will take over the project and do it his own way, if you donated to the address that I had posted I will return it to the address the coin was sent from.

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May 19, 2011, 01:21:21 AM
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I'll handle St. Louis, MO. with at least $50 of my own money.
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May 19, 2011, 01:24:55 AM
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aim at Memorial Day weekend at the end of May
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May 19, 2011, 01:32:21 AM
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aim at Memorial Day weekend at the end of May

That is too soon I think, and it is a Monday, I think we want to aim for either a Friday night or a Saturday.

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May 19, 2011, 02:07:10 AM
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EDIT: Somebody just said that writing on money might be illegal, can anybody confirm this? I'm googling around right now.

It is not.
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May 19, 2011, 02:16:49 AM
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EDIT: Somebody just said that writing on money might be illegal, can anybody confirm this? I'm googling around right now.

It is not.

    Yes, it is called Mutilation of national bank obligations

    United States Code

    TITLE 18 – CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

    PART I – CRIMES

    CHAPTER 17 – COINS AND CURRENCY

    § 333. Mutilation of national bank obligations

    “Whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.”

However, that shouldn't scare you.  Legality exists to continue your enslavement.  Submit or not.

By possessing papers that have graffiti on them does not imply that the defacement was by the current possessor.
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May 19, 2011, 02:19:59 AM
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with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued

This would have to be proven.

Still around.
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May 19, 2011, 02:22:20 AM
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hat
EDIT: Somebody just said that writing on money might be illegal, can anybody confirm this? I'm googling around right now.

It is not.

    Yes, it is called Mutilation of national bank obligations

    United States Code

    TITLE 18 – CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

    PART I – CRIMES

    CHAPTER 17 – COINS AND CURRENCY

    § 333. Mutilation of national bank obligations

    “Whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.”

However, that shouldn't scare you.  Legality exists to continue your enslavement.  Submit or not.

By possessing papers that have graffiti on them does not imply that the defacement was by the current possessor.

Unfit to be re-issued? Does a stamp make it unfit to be re-issued?

I don't think it does.
(therefore no intent!)
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May 19, 2011, 02:27:09 AM
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   “Whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.”

It isn't illegal by any stretch of the imagination.  There is an entire site will millions of users called wheresgeorge.com that has been doing this for years and years.  The legality of marking bills has been discussed ad nauseam on their forums.  It is perfectly legal.

Don't worry about it.
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May 19, 2011, 02:37:20 AM
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Why not just buy more bitcoin, approach charitable organizations whom you admire, ask them to accept btc donations? Surely Wikipedia accepting bitcoin donations would spread the word wider, faster and with less confusion than this.

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May 19, 2011, 02:44:53 AM
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I am gdoteof(_home) in the forums.  There are a couple of us making a fair amount of noise in Burlington VT about bitcoin.  We don't have a big mall to drop things from, but we can figure something out.

I support this idea; but just want to touch on a little bit of politics.

The rhetoric and philosophy behind any of these campaigns should tread really lightly on the "its an investment" idea.  People love to call bitcoin a pyramid scheme and we don't want to give them any ammunition.

I heard the weusecoins.com radio commercial on that show Gavin was on tonight, and I really wasn't into the "bitcoin is going up" bit.  Don't get me wrong, I am on record saying bitcoin is going to the moon, but we need to push the freedom, rights, etc.. issue.

Really, I just think people should be aware that there are enemies of bitcoin already, and they will only get more vehement as we grow stronger and those that emotionally support the state will grow more hostile toward us.  I hope that doesn't happen, but I think it will.

In that light, I think we should be very careful, even in our forum discussions about both the rhetoric we use, and the actual intentions we have.  Everyone wants to get rich, but we also want a currency that *empowers people*, and bitcoin has a real chance at becoming that on a large scale.  Bitcoins success == a much more fair world than we have now.

Getting rich making the world a better place is wonderful, but if you're going to propagandize, please please please do it with the intention of making the world a better place.
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May 19, 2011, 02:52:34 AM
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eof everything you said just reinforces that we need another or a better weusecoins.com video up, but there's already another thread for that.
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May 19, 2011, 02:54:11 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I am on record saying bitcoin is going to the moon, but we need to push the freedom, rights, etc.. issue.

Well damn, every time I've mentioned anything along those lines I get slammed for being a fanatical anarchist. So, you should even be careful promoting it that way.
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May 19, 2011, 02:57:48 AM
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Derp. Somebody made a good point above, happy days. Continue discussing and thanks for showing your support

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May 19, 2011, 03:09:02 AM
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July 4th,

Independence Day would be poignant given the history of the previous breaking from the clutches of the banking and currency cartel ... how many malls open though?

Maybe do it at the big fireworks rallies many towns and cities have?

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July 4th,

Independence Day would be poignant given the history of the previous breaking from the clutches of the banking and currency cartel ... how many malls open though?

Maybe do it at the big fireworks rallies many towns and cities have?

Agreed! As far as I know most everywhere is open for the 4th..
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May 19, 2011, 03:15:35 AM
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July 4th

That's a good idea. If you get slammed for being a freedom lover in the U.S. on the 4th of July, something is wrong. That is a fantastic day to remind people what freedom is all about.
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May 19, 2011, 03:23:15 AM
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July 4th

That's a good idea. If you get slammed for being a freedom lover in the U.S. on the 4th of July, something is wrong. That is a fantastic day to remind people what freedom is all about.

I love the idea behind it, but as long as I am respectful to the dollar, which I will be, I am not breaking any laws it would seem. I need to pay mind to all security marks and all that fun stuff and make sure that I am being totally respectful of the dollar itself, and make sure that the mark that I put on them is tasteful and will not render it unfit to serve as a legal tender of the USA.

Now to the date, the 4th sounds nice, I like that idea, but does anybody actually go to the mall on the 4th of July? I've never been to a mall on the 4th of July so I don't know if they are crowded on that day.

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May 19, 2011, 04:08:12 AM
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Someone going to film this for youtube ?

Flashmob ftw.
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May 19, 2011, 04:29:42 AM
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A bunch of bitcoiners should gather with bitcoin memorabilia/merchandise/wearables/holdables
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