[Closed] Legendaries review party of Spondoolies-Tech's SP20

[Zich]

A static ip on what, my router - my secondary router that is acting as a bridge between my first routers wifi and the ethernet that is connecting the to the miner, or the miner?

Static ip on miner.

You might want to review your main router dhcp setting. Sometimes if the optional field is left blank(default gateway & dns) some devices can not connect properly.

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[Mushroomized]

A static ip on what, my router - my secondary router that is acting as a bridge between my first routers wifi and the ethernet that is connecting the to the miner, or the miner?

Static ip on miner.

You might want to review your main router dhcp setting. Sometimes if the optional field is left blank(default gateway & dns) some devices can not connect properly.

By using the same settings that allowed me to have the miner connect to the internet before (laptop network bridge, dhcp server running on bridge) i am now not able to connect to my miner and edit its settings. I am starting to feel like there is something up with this miner.... I've been trying to get it to work for around 10 hours total now and am getting pretty tired of it.

I'll put some more time in tomorrow, I appreciate all the help.

[Guy Corem]

A static ip on what, my router - my secondary router that is acting as a bridge between my first routers wifi and the ethernet that is connecting the to the miner, or the miner?

Static ip on miner.

You might want to review your main router dhcp setting. Sometimes if the optional field is left blank(default gateway & dns) some devices can not connect properly.

By using the same settings that allowed me to have the miner connect to the internet before (laptop network bridge, dhcp server running on bridge) i am now not able to connect to my miner and edit its settings. I am starting to feel like there is something up with this miner.... I've been trying to get it to work for around 10 hours total now and am getting pretty tired of it.

I'll put some more time in tomorrow, I appreciate all the help.

Dima from our team will PM you with his email to try and help you.
If all fails, do a micro SD recovery to bring the miner to it's default state:
http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/13098521-sp10-sp2x-sp3x-recovery-sd-card-boot-sd-card-creation-instructions

[notlist3d]

A static ip on what, my router - my secondary router that is acting as a bridge between my first routers wifi and the ethernet that is connecting the to the miner, or the miner?

Static ip on miner.

You might want to review your main router dhcp setting. Sometimes if the optional field is left blank(default gateway & dns) some devices can not connect properly.

By using the same settings that allowed me to have the miner connect to the internet before (laptop network bridge, dhcp server running on bridge) i am now not able to connect to my miner and edit its settings. I am starting to feel like there is something up with this miner.... I've been trying to get it to work for around 10 hours total now and am getting pretty tired of it.

I'll put some more time in tomorrow, I appreciate all the help.

Dima from our team will PM you with his email to try and help you.
If all fails, do a micro SD recovery to bring the miner to it's default state:
http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/13098521-sp10-sp2x-sp3x-recovery-sd-card-boot-sd-card-creation-instructions

I hope this helps with your setting static IP.   If it is set wrong use SD recovery as SP team suggested to gain access again.   Reading about your network I would use first router if possible, going 3 devices down just is kinda a cluster.   

Once you have access to miner again hook computer to 1st router in your network.  (Were trying to make it easier and not have 3 devices in between the internet).  With computer go to command line and type in it "ipconfig".  This will show you your network settings.   With it being shown use this to fill in network static IP information (assuming DHCP is still not working for your network).  The first Lan IP address is the static address you will use for miner, make sure it is not being used by another device.

[raskul]

eek, i never bother even using an SD card. perhaps I should consider backing up before each f/w upgrade? 

[Tupsu]

eek, i never bother even using an SD card. perhaps I should consider backing up before each f/w upgrade? 

You have nothing to pack. You can only  download the software for the SD card.
sp20-recovery or sp20-sd-boot.

[raskul]

eek, i never bother even using an SD card. perhaps I should consider backing up before each f/w upgrade? 

You have nothing to pack. You can only  download the software for the SD card.
sp20-recovery or sp20-sd-boot.

i had presumed there'd be a file i could pull of the SP-Tech website if something goes wrong.
I suppose being as cautious as I am, I tend not to upgrade f/w until i see a good amount of people have already installed it on their own and are happy with it.

[-ck]

There are quite a number of these reviews now cluttering up the hardware area and while it was nice publicity for spondoolies, I will be locking each thread after they have been up for a couple of days and I suggest further discussion regarding the reviews should go here. @spondoolies-tech, you may wish to create links to all the original review threads in your top post.

[raskul]

There are quite a number of these reviews now cluttering up the hardware area and while it was nice publicity for spondoolies, I will be locking each thread after they have been up for a couple of days and I suggest further discussion regarding the reviews should go here. @spondoolies-tech, you may wish to create links to all the original review threads in your top post.

Con, please see
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889336.msg9805837#msg9805837

i see your options as

a) censorship.
b) a better filing system for threads.

Locking threads is a deliberate attempt to seclude information away from browsing 'coiners and in this case, merely shows the lack of respect the Forum has for it's longer standing members.
PLEASE ALSO LOCK ALL OF DOGIES REVIEW THREADS, or MAKE CHILD BOARDS.

your comment quoted above, smacks of double standards and if you are locking one single manufacturer review threads and not locking others then this could be seen as you, and this Forum being complicit in a 'Restraint of Trade' that's a legal term, look it up

Without Prejudice.

Rus

[-ck]

I understand but these should really have all been collated here as it ends up being advertising for spondoolies on the forum that costs spondoolies but did not actually pay the forum. Unfortunately there is no merge function in this forum software which would be the ideal solution. Out of respect for the legendaries I've forgone the locking for now, but can I urge the reviewers themselves to lock their threads and refer back to this one once they have completed whatever they have to say instead then?

[-ck]

your comment quoted above, smacks of double standards and if you are locking one single manufacturer review threads and not locking others then this could be seen as you, and this Forum being complicit in a 'Restraint of Trade' that's a legal term, look it up

Not really when the reviews are conducted by people who paid for the hardware instead of got the hardware as a free gift for the promise of a review in return.

[raskul]

your comment quoted above, smacks of double standards and if you are locking one single manufacturer review threads and not locking others then this could be seen as you, and this Forum being complicit in a 'Restraint of Trade' that's a legal term, look it up

Not really when the reviews are conducted by people who paid for the hardware instead of got the hardware as a free gift for the promise of a (HONEST) review in return.

see bold.
I'm specifically reiterating the fact that dogie receives free units in return for reviews. You must also lock all of his threads.
if you are to restrain trade on spondoolies hardware, you must also take the principle of locking threads, across the board and not specifically target one individual manufacturer.
And yes, please feel free to lock every review thread in which the reviewer received the unit for free. that would be very fair; in a censorship restraining trade sort of a way  

[raskul]

I understand but these should really have all been collated here as it ends up being advertising for spondoolies on the forum that costs spondoolies but did not actually pay the forum. Unfortunately there is no merge function in this forum software which would be the ideal solution. Out of respect for the legendaries I've forgone the locking for now, but can I urge the reviewers themselves to lock their threads and refer back to this one once they have completed whatever they have to say instead then?

I'd say your 'urging' seems a tad aggressive and would advise against it.

To 'Urge' anyone to partake in an activity which may or may not be of his or her will, in this form of recommendation, seems clear to me that your purpose is to take the responsibility off the shoulders of the forum and it's moderators to restricting trade by Spondoolies-Tech, and 'urging' those who committed to collating a review, to do the restraining of trade, on behalf of the forum and it's moderators?
I say this, without any personal prejudice, and wholly respect the other work that you do for the community as a whole.

[-ck]

I understand but these should really have all been collated here as it ends up being advertising for spondoolies on the forum that costs spondoolies but did not actually pay the forum. Unfortunately there is no merge function in this forum software which would be the ideal solution. Out of respect for the legendaries I've forgone the locking for now, but can I urge the reviewers themselves to lock their threads and refer back to this one once they have completed whatever they have to say instead then?

I'd say your 'urging' seems a tad aggressive and would advise against it.

To 'Urge' anyone to partake in an activity which may or may not be of his or her will, in this form of recommendation, seems clear to me that your purpose is to take the responsibility off the shoulders of the forum and it's moderators to restricting trade by Spondoolies-Tech, and 'urging' those who committed to collating a review, to do the restraining of trade, on behalf of the forum and it's moderators?
I say this, without any personal prejudice, and wholly respect the other work that you do for the community as a whole.

Thanks for your reasoned response.

All of you do whatever the fuck you want, see if I care.

[philipma1957]

I understand but these should really have all been collated here as it ends up being advertising for spondoolies on the forum that costs spondoolies but did not actually pay the forum. Unfortunately there is no merge function in this forum software which would be the ideal solution. Out of respect for the legendaries I've forgone the locking for now, but can I urge the reviewers themselves to lock their threads and refer back to this one once they have completed whatever they have to say instead then?

I'd say your 'urging' seems a tad aggressive and would advise against it.

To 'Urge' anyone to partake in an activity which may or may not be of his or her will, in this form of recommendation, seems clear to me that your purpose is to take the responsibility off the shoulders of the forum and it's moderators to restricting trade by Spondoolies-Tech, and 'urging' those who committed to collating a review, to do the restraining of trade, on behalf of the forum and it's moderators?
I say this, without any personal prejudice, and wholly respect the other work that you do for the community as a whole.

Thanks for your reasoned response.

All of you do whatever the fuck you want, see if I care.

ck you okay?

here is a link setup.

As the first review thread posted and  as the only reviewer that did not get one of these for free :

 12 reviews with 2 due  is 14 threads plus this thread plus my  thread is 15 threads on the sp20 and that is a lot of threads.

I think  locking the threads in 1 week or 3 days or the  day after christmas or even the last day of hanukkah and placing the setup below in first post of this thread  is not such a bad idea.

Links to the legends reviews:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=887807.0  Spondoolie's Legendary review offer to 10 Legends--Edit--may be 11 and 1 hereo


1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=895085.0  spiccioli
2) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=895798.0   Xian01  
3) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896161.0   johnyj
4) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896065.0   Mushroomized
5) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896004.0  John (John K.)
6) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896134.0  SaltySpitoon
7) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896656.0   notlist3d  
8.) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896910.0  THE JOINT
9)  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=897151.0  Dabs
10) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896913.0 Syke
11) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=900307.0 goxed
12) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=898952.0 blazedout419


I kind of feel responsible for starting this issue by doing the first review for free because I like the gear.
I have had people fight for me to get a free one.
I now see people like ck and raskul fighting.
I have seen more then one person calling the reviews spam
I post  on and use this forum a lot.
I rather see happy miners not angry ones.

[Flying Hellfish]

There are quite a number of these reviews now cluttering up the hardware area and while it was nice publicity for spondoolies, I will be locking each thread after they have been up for a couple of days and I suggest further discussion regarding the reviews should go here. @spondoolies-tech, you may wish to create links to all the original review threads in your top post.

Thank you for this conman.  I was a little surprised it was allowed in the first place as it does set a pretty terrible precedence (hardware forum font page is basically for sale...), but I think your reasoning above and your solution is fair.

If people want this type of spammy shit in a new sub, go to meta and ask/fight for it.

[raskul]

There are quite a number of these reviews now cluttering up the hardware area and while it was nice publicity for spondoolies, I will be locking each thread after they have been up for a couple of days and I suggest further discussion regarding the reviews should go here. @spondoolies-tech, you may wish to create links to all the original review threads in your top post.

Thank you for this conman.  I was a little surprised it was allowed in the first place as it does set a pretty terrible precedence (hardware forum font page is basically for sale...), but I think your reasoning above and your solution is fair.

If people want this type of spammy shit in a new sub, go to meta and ask/fight for it.

don't be such an arse licker Flying Hellfish.
the sheer volume of rotation of threads on these forums is reason enough for me put you on ignore for pointless comment of the year award.

[Flying Hellfish]

There are quite a number of these reviews now cluttering up the hardware area and while it was nice publicity for spondoolies, I will be locking each thread after they have been up for a couple of days and I suggest further discussion regarding the reviews should go here. @spondoolies-tech, you may wish to create links to all the original review threads in your top post.

Thank you for this conman.  I was a little surprised it was allowed in the first place as it does set a pretty terrible precedence (hardware forum font page is basically for sale...), but I think your reasoning above and your solution is fair.

If people want this type of spammy shit in a new sub, go to meta and ask/fight for it.

don't be such an arse licker Flying Hellfish.
the sheer volume of rotation of threads on these forums is reason enough for me put you on ignore for pointless comment of the year award.

Thank you for that, it's like a badge of honour for me.  I humbly and personally apologize for having a different opinion than you and for having the shear ignorant audacity to share it in a public forum.

Now get back to calling people names it makes your arguments significantly stronger.

[raskul]

There are quite a number of these reviews now cluttering up the hardware area and while it was nice publicity for spondoolies, I will be locking each thread after they have been up for a couple of days and I suggest further discussion regarding the reviews should go here. @spondoolies-tech, you may wish to create links to all the original review threads in your top post.

Thank you for this conman.  I was a little surprised it was allowed in the first place as it does set a pretty terrible precedence (hardware forum font page is basically for sale...), but I think your reasoning above and your solution is fair.

If people want this type of spammy shit in a new sub, go to meta and ask/fight for it.

don't be such an arse licker Flying Hellfish.
the sheer volume of rotation of threads on these forums is reason enough for me put you on ignore for pointless comment of the year award.

Thank you for that, it's like a badge of honour for me.  I humbly and personally apologize for having a different opinion than you and for having the shear ignorant audacity to share it in a public forum.

Now get back to calling people names it makes your arguments significantly stronger.

Lets' clarify your predicament, for now...
you have come onto a Spondoolies thread to complain about the fact that you have viewed far too many Spondoolies threads on the forum? right?
oh the irony.

[Flying Hellfish]

There are quite a number of these reviews now cluttering up the hardware area and while it was nice publicity for spondoolies, I will be locking each thread after they have been up for a couple of days and I suggest further discussion regarding the reviews should go here. @spondoolies-tech, you may wish to create links to all the original review threads in your top post.

Thank you for this conman.  I was a little surprised it was allowed in the first place as it does set a pretty terrible precedence (hardware forum font page is basically for sale...), but I think your reasoning above and your solution is fair.

If people want this type of spammy shit in a new sub, go to meta and ask/fight for it.

don't be such an arse licker Flying Hellfish.
the sheer volume of rotation of threads on these forums is reason enough for me put you on ignore for pointless comment of the year award.

Thank you for that, it's like a badge of honour for me.  I humbly and personally apologize for having a different opinion than you and for having the shear ignorant audacity to share it in a public forum.

Now get back to calling people names it makes your arguments significantly stronger.

Lets' clarify your predicament, for now...
you have come onto a Spondoolies thread to complain about the fact that you have viewed far too many Spondoolies threads on the forum? right?
oh the irony.

Huh, guess your ignore button didn't work?

Mate this isn't about SPT specifically, personally I am following this issue as I believe it has wider implications (sorry to burst your bubble).  As I mentioned in my first response allowing one company to buy the front page (for all intents and purposes) of the hardware sub (without paying the forum) sets a terrible precedence.  I can see a lot of other manufactures doing exactly the same thing (or worse heaven forbid).  The hardware section becomes the manufacture's advertising section instantly and any tiny scrap of information that does get here is even more difficult to find.  I personally thought the way conman plans on handling it was reasonable.  He can now put manufacture's on notice that this shit won't fly in the future but allowing SPT and the legendaries to finish out what they started.

Go back to meta and work on getting your manufacture child boards and do all this shit till your hearts content.  I don't think it belongs here, that is my opinion and like it or not, agree with it or not I am free to share it thank you very much.